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TheoryOfN
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Salty wrote:
I think the solution is indeed I CAN NOT HELP and I think I found a way that makes it seems less random, by relating the word quadrant, the keyboard, and possibly the flashing of the code. So in math the quadrants on graphs are arranged like this:



Quadrant 1 in upper right, 2 in top left, 3 in bottom left, 4 in bottom right. I think you are supposed to move the letters in the first line of the code up and right, second line up and left, etc, looping around to the beginning of the column you're in if you go off the top or bottom of the keyboard.

This will spell out I CAN NOT HELP if you move each letter two keys, or six, or ten. The code blinks five times, which is sort of a count of ten (on-off-on-off-on-off-on-off-on-off), which, while somewhat of a stretch, may mean you are supposed to move ten keys.


I dunno. That seems like more of a stretch than the original discovery to me. Where do you get the six from?

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 		Re: Decline + Quadrant
DrSoup007 wrote:
I think these two faces are the same person

Quadrant:

Decline:


Quadrants nose seems fatter but I think they're the same


no

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TheoryOfN wrote:
Salty wrote:
I think the solution is indeed I CAN NOT HELP and I think I found a way that makes it seems less random, by relating the word quadrant, the keyboard, and possibly the flashing of the code. So in math the quadrants on graphs are arranged like this:



Quadrant 1 in upper right, 2 in top left, 3 in bottom left, 4 in bottom right. I think you are supposed to move the letters in the first line of the code up and right, second line up and left, etc, looping around to the beginning of the column you're in if you go off the top or bottom of the keyboard.

This will spell out I CAN NOT HELP if you move each letter two keys, or six, or ten. The code blinks five times, which is sort of a count of ten (on-off-on-off-on-off-on-off-on-off), which, while somewhat of a stretch, may mean you are supposed to move ten keys.


I dunno. That seems like more of a stretch than the original discovery to me. Where do you get the six from?


I always was under the impression that Hoody wasn't trolling jay, just unable to help him for specific reasons (maybe operator is watching, or inside his head and seeing what he does). "i can not help" would fit into that theory, although i can't vouch for the validity of that code

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 		Okay here is my attempt to illustrate it. I don't think the number 6 is relevant, but 10 might be, because the code blinks on and off ten times.

So in a further attempt to illustrate this pattern:

The first line is just N, so you count up and to the right and get I:


The second line starts with E, so you move up and to the left, looping around to the bottom of the column you're operating in (this will land on C if you move two keys or ten):



The next one in the second line is 1, so moving up and left again, looping around to the A:



and so on. It spells out something legible, neatly divided into four lines, using a keyboard and is inspired by quadrants. Look at your own keyboard and try it if it's confusing. I dunno, I think I've convinced myself here, but take it or leave it.

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Piqua72
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Salty wrote:
Okay here is my attempt to illustrate it. I don't think the number 6 is relevant, but 10 might be, because the code blinks on and off ten times.

So in a further attempt to illustrate this pattern:

The first line is just N, so you count up and to the right and get I:


The second line starts with E, so you move up and to the left, looping around to the bottom of the column you're operating in (this will land on C if you move two keys or ten):



The next one in the second line is 1, so moving up and left again, looping around to the A:



and so on. It spells out something legible, neatly divided into four lines, using a keyboard and is inspired by quadrants. Look at your own keyboard and try it if it's confusing. I dunno, I think I've convinced myself here, but take it or leave it.



I have no issue seeing how you got there, its WHY you got there. the first time you are going up and go to the right, and then all the rest of the times you go up and to the left. That in and of itself is contradictory and inconsistent. know what I mean? Its the best answer so far, but i would encourage everyone to keep searching for a better solution if possible. At least its intelligible English and something that could be argued as relevant! ... but then again I think anybody can argue just about any vague sentence is relevant when dealing with TTA

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Piqua72 wrote:

I have no issue seeing how you got there, its WHY you got there. the first time you are going up and go to the right, and then all the rest of the times you go up and to the left. That in and of itself is contradictory and inconsistent. know what I mean? Its the best answer so far, but i would encourage everyone to keep searching for a better solution if possible. At least its intelligible English and something that could be argued as relevant! ... but then again I think anybody can argue just about any vague sentence is relevant when dealing with TTA


The code was in four lines. There are four quadrants. The first line you move up and to the right, as in quadrant 1, the second you move up and to the left (so E, 1, Y becomes C, A, N) the third would then move down and left as in quadrant 3 (so I, M, C becomes N, O, T) and the fourth would move down and right, as in quadrant 4. If there were more than four lines to the code it would probably repeat this pattern. But I am definitely following a pattern, not just moving random directions.

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Salty wrote:
Piqua72 wrote:

I have no issue seeing how you got there, its WHY you got there. the first time you are going up and go to the right, and then all the rest of the times you go up and to the left. That in and of itself is contradictory and inconsistent. know what I mean? Its the best answer so far, but i would encourage everyone to keep searching for a better solution if possible. At least its intelligible English and something that could be argued as relevant! ... but then again I think anybody can argue just about any vague sentence is relevant when dealing with TTA


The code was in four lines. There are four quadrants. The first line you move up and to the right, as in quadrant 1, the second you move up and to the left (so E, 1, Y becomes C, A, N) the third would then move down and left as in quadrant 3 (so I, M, C becomes N, O, T) and the fourth would move down and right, as in quadrant 4. If there were more than four lines to the code it would probably repeat this pattern. But I am definitely following a pattern, not just moving random directions.


Ahhhhh NOW I get it. I think that is pretty conclusive then. Good call.

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Salty wrote:
I think the solution is indeed I CAN NOT HELP and I think I found a way that makes it seems less random, by relating the word quadrant, the keyboard, and possibly the flashing of the code. So in math the quadrants on graphs are arranged like this:



Quadrant 1 in upper right, 2 in top left, 3 in bottom left, 4 in bottom right. I think you are supposed to move the letters in the first line of the code up and right, second line up and left, etc, looping around to the beginning of the column you're in if you go off the top or bottom of the keyboard.

This will spell out I CAN NOT HELP if you move each letter two keys, or six, or ten. The code blinks five times, which is sort of a count of ten (on-off-on-off-on-off-on-off-on-off), which, while somewhat of a stretch, may mean you are supposed to move ten keys.

Well done, good sir!

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 		This video must be for Tim

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 		Gotta say, in the light of Entry 80 "I CAN NOT HELP" seems very credible.

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 		Can someone explain how you know how many spaces to move with each line? In one you're only moving 2 spaces and then the next you're moving 5 or 6. Please explain

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Ztakk wrote:
Can someone explain how you know how many spaces to move with each line? In one you're only moving 2 spaces and then the next you're moving 5 or 6. Please explain


Am I The Third is what gives us the idea to move 3 times including the key you start on.

For the first line, you move up and to the right, just like in the first quadrant.

For the second line, you move up and to the left.

Third, down and left.

Fourth, down and right.

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Ztakk wrote:
Can someone explain how you know how many spaces to move with each line? In one you're only moving 2 spaces and then the next you're moving 5 or 6. Please explain


I moved two keys each time. What I THINK you're supposed to do is move ten spaces, which will give you the same result as moving two, but I tried making a drawing showing that and it was just a mess of squiggles. I got the ten from the way the code blinked at the end of Quadrant- on-off-on-off-on-off-on-off-on-off-on-off which seemed like a count of ten to me.

Oh, I think I see why it was confusing. In this one:



It looks like the W and S are counted as spaces. They're not. The column is:

3
E
D
C

so, starting at E, moving up and left (because second row of the code = second quadrant), counting ten spaces, and looping around to the bottom when you go off the top, you go 3-C-D-E-3-C-D-E-3-C. E becomes C.


Someone mentioned earlier in this thread that at some point there would be a code given to us and the next entry wouldn't be posted until we solved it. I don't know where that info came from but Entry #80 was posted, like, minutes after I posted those keyboard pictures. Coincidence?

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awakeasaurusrex wrote:
Gotta say, in the light of Entry 80 "I CAN NOT HELP" seems very credible.


In fact, a whole lot of that video's meaning rides on it. If that's NOT what the message is, we are left with the very real possibility that Hoody wanted Jay dead.

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 		Honestly, wow. I'm a smart man, and educated, and each time there is a code or a cipher that you guys manage to unravel, I'm totally blown away by your collective ingenuity. My mind just doesn't seem to work the same way, and I am consistently stumped by what you guys seem to be able to reveal in an astoundingly short time. So, you know, I tip my metaphorical hat to you (metaphorical because I don't wear hats, because I look dumb when I do).

Anyway, I finally saw the video just now, read the thread, have a couple of things to say.

titlebreaker wrote:
There is something grimly ironic about having an Ark involved. The original Ark was a means of preserving a few righteous folks (and animals) against the judgment of God, but I have a hard time imagining the Ark in MH as being a very nice place or thing. Still, if the Ark in MH is anything like the biblical Ark, we're probably going to have some kind of apocalypse on our hands.


The thing about Noah's Ark is that there were two of each animal on board. As in two Operators (oh, sweet Lord).

Playing off this, "AM I THE THIRD" could imply that ToTheArk was a third animal left behind from the safety of the Ark. Maybe those the Operator teleports to his OppyVerse are actually saved in some way. (Hell, maybe Jay is safe now. Trapped in a lightless place where time has no meaning and the laws of physics don't apply, but safe). Not likely, but interesting to think about.

Paige! wrote:
When I first saw "AM I THE THIRD" flash on screen, I immediately thought back to one of the recent TTA videos (Conversion?) when it said, "WHO ARE THE LIARS? ARE YOU ONE OF THEM? ARE YOU BOTH OF THEM?"

"AM I THE THIRD?"

It may not make too much sense given the context of the earlier quote, but it's at least a different take on that portion of the video.



Maybe ToTheArk is wondering about Jessica's fate. He implied that Tim was a liar, possibly because he held back the tape showing Jessica's disappearance and possible demise. His other assertion that "She's out there" (believed by many to refer to Jessica) may have been proven false by that tape, thereby making him a liar. (It's possible that Hoody is suffering from memory loss, and only remembered that Jessica was on the tape Tim withheld, not remembering its resolution).

Or it's one of the other possibilities a lot of you have brought up, and I'm speculating wildly.

Now I need to go ask my wife if it's okay to leave the light on tonight, because that slowed-down voiceover and creepy, menacing, grinning silhouette have terrified me in a way that Marble Hornets hasn't for months.

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