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TheoryOfN
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Ztakk wrote:

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Those aren't the same shoe. Similar style, but not the same shoe. The shoe in 71 goes from the toe of the show to the tongue at a much sharper angle than in 80.



lol, it's definitely the same shoe. The angle you're talking about can easily be changed just by a slight lean forward or back.

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Ztakk wrote:
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Okay, so after watching 54 again, the only bit of distortion is audio, and only for the few moments that the Operator is in frame. So maybe not just a siren, but a power source; no one was freaked out, so he just hung out all invisibly in the corner. Were there any times the Operator showed up among perfectly calm people and then actually did something? Or was at least visible?

Btw, thanks for responding, Craic! Very Happy


Entry 12 everyone was pretty much calm.


Indeed... I remember people being torn about whether anyone could see him but Alex (Sarah might have been talking about Alex when she said, "What's he doing?", unclear if Alex was addressing someone else's question or talking to himself when he says "he'll move eventually"). Maybe Alex is getting progressively more annoyed when he doesn't eventually move? Distortion is audio and general off-ness/darkening of colors. No colorful snow, though there might be OOG reasons for that.

Anyway, like I said, it's probably nothing, but I'll let it stew, re-watch some entries, and see if I can't form a stronger theory/totally dismantle it.

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His hand is down near his stomach when he gets shot. I doubt he'd have been able to turn and half run away, even with adrenaline, if he'd been chest-shot.

We've never gotten a close enough look at Alex's gun to determine it's caliber, but even a .38 special at that range is going to kill you almost instantly in the chest.


Other post Redacted. It's sort of hard to tell with the camera positioning but I'm pretty confident you're right and it's a lower gut/side shot. Which doesn't really say much for Alex's Marksmanship.


Maybe Alex didn't mean to actually KILL Jay.

Also for people who are still talking about Hoody being Jay from the future....please explain how this adds ANY weight to that crazy theory????????


Maybe not. I was wondering why he didn't completely riddle Jay with bullets myself, could have just been wanting to interrogate him and weasel Tim's whereabouts out of him possibly.

Someone came out and said what if the Operator rescued Jay and someone hopped up and said maybe that explains why Hoody exists, he manipulated his own existence. There are quite a few posts that explain this if you read the whole thread. It is crazy and a tad ridiculous yes, and I don't like it much, but admittedly there are some things that make it plausible.
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They killed off the protagonist, and we are 2 over the 26 entry per season average. We are at the end, folks.


The "entry per season average" is irrelevant for the third season, they've mentioned that OOG, and that it will be as long as it needs to be. If this were the end, we'd know. Tim's still alive. There are still answers to be found. This isn't the last entry.

I know it isn't the last entry, but I doubt they would go too far about the 26 average. My guess is 1-2 entries left.

You still can't base it off the whole "26 entries in a season" thing. The creators themselves said that was a happy accident. Plus, people always saying there's 26 entries in a season is a bit untrue and a lazy way of putting it. Season 1 is more like 29 entries because of Introduction, #19.5, and ######. Season 2 was actually a solid 26 entries. And Season 3 is more like 30 entries because of #60.5 and #67.5, plus more since we're not finished with the season yet. Sorry, I don't mean to be an ass, it just kind of bugs me when people bring up the whole 26 thing like it's a baseline for predicting when the series is going to end.

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Ztakk wrote:

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Those aren't the same shoe. Similar style, but not the same shoe. The shoe in 71 goes from the toe of the show to the tongue at a much sharper angle than in 80.



lol, it's definitely the same shoe. The angle you're talking about can easily be changed just by a slight lean forward or back.

If you look closely and really compare the two shoes, you can see they are different. Notice how the shoe on the right has thicker, shorter and more spaced out white stripes compared to the shoe on the left. Also notice how the stripes on the right shoe are much closer to the tip of the shoe compared to the left.

But it most likely is supposed to be the shame shoe, so whatever.

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LiefWolfsbane wrote:
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His hand is down near his stomach when he gets shot. I doubt he'd have been able to turn and half run away, even with adrenaline, if he'd been chest-shot.

We've never gotten a close enough look at Alex's gun to determine it's caliber, but even a .38 special at that range is going to kill you almost instantly in the chest.


Other post Redacted. It's sort of hard to tell with the camera positioning but I'm pretty confident you're right and it's a lower gut/side shot. Which doesn't really say much for Alex's Marksmanship.


Maybe Alex didn't mean to actually KILL Jay.

Also for people who are still talking about Hoody being Jay from the future....please explain how this adds ANY weight to that crazy theory????????


Maybe not. I was wondering why he didn't completely riddle Jay with bullets myself, could have just been wanting to interrogate him and weasel Tim's whereabouts out of him possibly.

Someone came out and said what if the Operator rescued Jay and someone hopped up and said maybe that explains why Hoody exists, he manipulated his own existence. There are quite a few posts that explain this if you read the whole thread. It is crazy and a tad ridiculous yes, and I don't like it much, but admittedly there are some things that make it plausible.


What do you mean Alex isn't meaning to kill Jay? He's repeatedly held him at gunpoint and shot at him multiple times. He shot Jay in the damn gut for Christ's sake. And I don't care what people here tell you, a gun shot to the gut can kill you. I don't care about "well, if he gets medical treatment..." He was kidnapped by the Operator. Do you think he has a surgeon on call in Slenderworld?

And besides, he was bleeding profusely enough to cover his hand in his own blood/leave a blood puddle when Tim came back for him. He was seriously wounded.

Guns aren't that easy to shoot, even considering Alex's prolific inability to shoot. Jay was shot and stumbled. That means the target moved. That means the target was smaller, and moving. That's hard to hit unless you're trained to shoot or have more practice than shooting/beating to death a few unsuspecting friends, and I guarantee you Alex isn't/doesn't.

Jay is dead/in Slenderworld. Sorry. I know it's shocking, but theorizing about time paradoxes and saying "Hoody is John Connor from "The Terminator," I swear guys" doesn't change that.

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DJay32 wrote:
I apologize if this has been suggested before, but the only thing I thought as Jay saw the Operator was "Oh my god, the Ark is the place the Operator takes people to, isn't it?"

I mean, totheark told Jay to go to Benedict Hall, find Alex, and find the Ark. And I'm pretty sure that totheark wants closure just as much as Jay does, he just isn't stable enough to find it himself so he needs a surrogate. totheark either wants to find all his old friends and save them, or just find out they're gone forever and close that question. So this could potentially be how he intended it to happen.

However, I don't know if totheark intended for Jay to get shot. In Decay, he said "[Jay] will lead me to you. Lead me to death. Lead me to the ark." So that could support the theory that he did intend it to happen, as "death" came before "the ark," so in dying Jay would lead him to the ark. But he might have been referring to Jay killing Alex, in which case it might have become a lot safer to get to the ark without going through Alex?

I dunno, I feel like this entry when combined with the previous videos heavily supports that the ark is wherever Jay went-- most likely the same place Tim went in Entry 65, where we saw Bruce, so it can be inferred that anyone the Operator takes is in that same location.
The only problem is that that's as far as I can get with this theory, myself, until either another video comes out or some other clue/evidence to the contrary is found in an earlier video.

...y'know what, while I'm rambling, I want to mention another reason I don't think totheark intended for Jay to get shot. totheark has been fixated on Jay ever since the start of the series, because Jay is potential for closure. Jay is someone who did not seem entangled enough in Alex's web of lies to prevent him from investigating and uncovering things. totheark provided Jay with many leads and clues to finding the path to answers, and potentially to uncovering the ark where totheark's friends were kept, dead or alive. Jay often did nothing productive, and when that happened, totheark would get angry (Entry ######, Memories). Whenever Jay encountered another character, totheark would often attempt to speak directly to that character in the only way he's able to while so psychologically fragmented: typing/videos. To Alex, totheark would be consistently vengeful (Program, Fragments, Decay) or vindicative (Sidenote), though usually also paranoid (Isolation, Decline). To Tim, totheark started off seeing him as a companion in suffering (Addition, Warning, Extraction), though as Tim made progress with his sanity totheark saw him as leaving him behind and grew bitter (Reminder, Reference, observation).

Then Tim did something surprising: He started trying to help how he could, even giving pills at one point. totheark grew jealous (File), fearing that if Tim got his way he and Jay would continue living as Tim himself was trying to live-- putting the past behind them and pretending nothing ever happened (as supported by Tim's specific complaints in Entry 59). totheark wanted Jay back on "track," the track of seeking closure even if nobody else wants to help you, because that's what totheark's always wanted. So totheark does something drastic in return. He lies about Jessica still being out there (Display, Surveillance). When that doesn't seem to work, and Tim seems to be making progress at gaining Jay's trust, totheark lashes out (Conversion). But by this point, the damage is already done. Jay knows Jessica is gone now. He blames himself entirely for this, and since he only wanted closure, he deteriorates considerably and lashes out, himself, at Tim. totheark sees this as in his favour, as he doesn't want Jay to trust Tim too much out of jealousy, so when Tim leaves him alone, totheark saves Jay and helps him go do what he was supposed to have done all along, bumping up the pressure and saying this is his last chance.

The last thing I will bring up is that, the way things are structured, I think Quadrant was intended as totheark's response to the events of Entry 80, it's just that Tim hadn't uploaded the video yet (look at it like a sort of depressing equivalent to Sidenote). Quadrant stands out, to me, as being a piece of regret. totheark realizes what he has done and asks himself if he is a liar, just as he had so vehemently claimed Tim was (and Jay, when totheark was mad at Jay).

I see totheark as a dynamic character, someone whose viewpoint and intentions have changed throughout the series, though his modus operandi has always been to try and help/manipulate Jay to find closure once and for all by any means necessary. It's just that now he's come to see the ramifications.

..of course, at the moment this is all just a theory. We'll have to see what direction future entries and videos go in to see if I'm just extrapolating baselessly.



Not done catching up yet. But hot damn this summary of the history of Hoody should be in the wiki!

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ArkyMcArkArk wrote:
Hoody is Jay from the future. Calling it now.

My main problem with this theory is Entry #68 where Alex asks the hooded person "Where are Jay and Tim?"

I'm still going with the hooded person is Brian theory.
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Memento_Mori wrote:
1) Anyone that says this cements Hoody = Future Jay and explicitly ignores Entry 69 when Alex speaks with Hoody and acts surprised at his identity/asks him where Jay/Tim are is just deluding themselves. Entry 68, actually, and I covered this already, that shot was purposefully done so that anyone could be Hoody as more evidence comes to light.

Alex hates Jay to the point of wanting to kill him since that day in the woods with Jessica (you know, before they head to the hotel and they forget they know each other). If Hoody were Future Jay, Alex would have shot him then and been done with it. Also Covered to a point. There's a big glaring hole in this theory here that is difficult to work around, I won't lie. It's the one thing that keeps me from being 100% in this theory.

Even with an Operator Edict refusing the kill, Alex would still tentatively been told what's up. There is no reason to believe that the Operator is keeping secrets from Alex. Jay/Tim/ToTheArk/Hoody are the liars here, not the Operator. True.

All of that ignores the fact that Slenderman is obviously a creature that wields great power over space/time. He knows that sending Future Jay back as Hoody would open up a pretty unreliable time paradox (Hoody's creation is dependent upon Jay getting shot in the building, while Jay's only there because of frequent taunting from ToTheArk/Hoody. Therefore, Hoody would be responsible for his own creation). That was pretty much the premise of the whole deal, Hoody ensuring his own creation, potentially to prevent more time fuckery and paradoxes that could tear the fabric of reality apart, and also to save his friends.

I, personally, have more faith in Troy and Company to write a story that doesn't involve a potentially story breaking time paradox. "The Terminator" got away with it, doesn't mean they can/should/would even try. It would only be story breaking if they couldn't pull it off well. If it turns out to be true then they actually pulled it off in an interesting way. Time will tell though, we could be totally off.

2) I'm becoming more and more convinced that Slenderman is actually the Ark, and the Ark is seen by Alex/Hoody as a way to prevent death.

Think about it -

The basic definition of the Ark is a boat, the biblical example being the ark that kept Noah and is family and all of those animals save from God's furious anger. So, the Ark has to be something that in the least transports something, but more specifically saves from some divine judgement.

When has the Operator taken people from reality to Slenderworld?

When they're dead/dying.

The only caveat to this is Tim, and Tim was thrown back/already proxied. So still, Tim jumped over via Slenderman powers, if only because he was Masky. A long time ago I posted a theory very similar to this. I'd believe that TO is the doorway to the Ark and the purpose of the Ark is a shelter of sorts to breed minions for his own ends.
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OOG though that's a stretch because technically that gives TO a purpose/motive and I think the creators said that they weren't going to explain his motives.


So how about this:

Official Unified MarbleHornets Unified Theory

The Ark is Slenderman. He stalks children, potentially, because they have just began life and he wants to check them out. Maybe he's in charge of the beginning of not only death, but life itself? Slenderman is simply this generation's interpretation of Death, but with a practical extrapolation (i.e. that which is in charge of death is also in charge of life).

Alex has been attacking his friends because when they are dying Slenderman can come and take them away. Alex is probably deluded and believes this to be a safe place. Blame it on him being stalked since he was a child - he reasoned/lived with it through resolving that Slenderman is a good being, so you shouldn't be afraid of it but rather work for it. Would explain the creepy origin story when Jay was walking in the woods with Alex about the child molester that got stretched out by the trees - Alex was trying to give Slenderman a tragic beginning as a misunderstood, falsely accused avenger. You failed to explain why Alex is attacking his friends in the first place. Why do they need a safe place? Context friend, Context.

Tim never believed that, and has been fighting Slenderman as well as he could ever since childhood. Same with Brian (whom I personally believe to be Hoody). Most people believe Brian is Hoody as of right now. I did before the last TTA coupled with this entry.

The one hitch is ToTheArk, which I believe can be explained away as Hoody easily enough. However, I believe it more interesting to explain it as multiple people using the same account, with them all being in the Slenderworld.

Using evidence from this video (Jay being shot) and yesterday's upload (Quadrant, expected to be uploaded after Jay was shot for the purposes of this post), we can connect that ToTheArk is actually the way Slenderpeople communicate from his dimension.
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ALA Tribetwelve you mean? I don't think so. They wouldn't intrude on someone else's creative property that way. Yeah, you could argue the Future Jay thing being a rip off of Firebrand if you want to, if that's what they end up doing, but Troy has stated he's had the ending planned for a long while now, he said that before TT's reveal so there's no way the two can be related, it'd probably be just a coincidence.


The gradual widening of focus on characters as they're either revealed to be Slendernapped or suspected to be is a major point. "She's still out there" can be taken to mean that Jessica IS still alive, just in Slenderworld. Same with Alex's girl, Seth, Sarah, etc. etc.


That explains why Quadrant's entry is laden with "I'm the Third" and "I can't help you now" (paraphrasing). Jay isn't exactly dead, but he's out of play. He's in another dimension and can't come back. But he can use his hands and make them speak through the ToTheArk twitter/youtube account. That works with the Future Jay theory too.

Tl;DR- If you think Hoody is Future Jay, you're fooling yourself.It's all speculative dude, no need to come off so combatative. I don't think anyone wants to believe it but we're starting to because of the way evidence swings. There are multiple interpretations and multiple theories to be had. Let people have their theories until all is revealed. Jay is obviously in Slenderworld, probably author of the most recent ToTheArk video if my theory of "ToTheArk are different people, all stuck in theFix'd Slenderverse" holds true. Also, Tim is screwed. I don't see where you get "Tim is Screwed," care to extrapolate a little bit on that? Yes he's Masky, he's proxied, but he has a pseudo ally in Hoody and can stand up to The Operator with his pills.

EDIT: Also, ToTheArk could still be Hoody, with Quadrant simply an admission that he can't help Jay anymore because Jay's dead.


The Bold bits and spoiler tags are my edits, asides his divider for his Ark is Operator theory and TLDR.
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What do you mean Alex isn't meaning to kill Jay? He's repeatedly held him at gunpoint and shot at him multiple times. He shot Jay in the damn gut for Christ's sake. And I don't care what people here tell you, a gun shot to the gut can kill you. I don't care about "well, if he gets medical treatment..." He was kidnapped by the Operator. Do you think he has a surgeon on call in Slenderworld?

And besides, he was bleeding profusely enough to cover his hand in his own blood/leave a blood puddle when Tim came back for him. He was seriously wounded.

Guns aren't that easy to shoot, even considering Alex's prolific inability to shoot. Jay was shot and stumbled. That means the target moved. That means the target was smaller, and moving. That's hard to hit unless you're trained to shoot or have more practice than shooting/beating to death a few unsuspecting friends, and I guarantee you Alex isn't/doesn't.

Jay is dead/in Slenderworld. Sorry. I know it's shocking, but theorizing about time paradoxes and saying "Hoody is John Connor from "The Terminator," I swear guys" doesn't change that.


Well about the "Slenderworld" Thing as you call it, when we saw Bruce there, he hadn't decomposed much. Due to that, the theory here is that time is slowed there, so TO could have ported Jay there to rescue him. He could have bled out or been killed before he was taken but we don't know that for sure and we won't until the series is done. I don't know if you've read the whole thread or not yet, but I'd recommend you do to get all of the information and theory that you can. I've been rationalizing and speculating Jay's potential rescue/survival/time jump but I'm not sold on it yet, I thought that Brian was Hoody and that could still be. Also, I only saw the bloody handprint. I didn't see a blood pool. I'll check again, but I'm pretty sure asides the handprint there was no blood there.
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 		I don't buy the hoody wanted jay to die theory. a lot of quadrant seems to be TTA trying to talk Jay out of going in the hall instead of goading him to enter. also, What happened to Alex? Tim's chest cam will hopefully answer this in #81. and finally when slendy shoots his hand at jay is he shooting it at his face or the door behind him? jay is holding the camera in his right hand so if he is holding it up to his head it would be slightly to the right and slendy's hand would be going past Jay's shoulder, which could be to hold the door shut so he isn't interrupted by Alex or Tim, or is he holding it at chest level because, you know, he just got shot, and was showing the wound right before in which case slendy might be grabbing Jay by the face.

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 		I don't really believe that Hoody = Future Jay BUT if that were true I can picture a perfect scene:

Tim is upset that Jay is gone. Tim goes to beat up Hoody for revenge and answers. Rips off the mask. It is Jay.

Beautiful moment possibly. Also a great time for some answers.

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 		Not a big a fan of the "Hoody is future Jay" thing, though I was a fan already of the "Jay is TTA, and TTA is not the same as Hoody" thing. This, however, is somewhat dependent on the decryption of Quadrant. If Quadrant were uploaded by Jay, then it had to be before the events of #80, or Jay can still upload from wherever he is right now. If Quadrant was indeed uploaded after the events of #80 (which I deem to be more likely) then either Jay is not TTA, or again Jay can still upload from wherever he is right now. So in order to safe my guess that Jay is TTA, I have to correct me and say that Jay is only affiliated with TTA, TTA being the whole of the mask. And now, another mask has posted Quadrant after the events of #80 – that's why he can't help anymore.

But some things more directed towards #80:

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How did Tim got into Benedict Hall in the first place? Why did Jay miss him going in? I rewatched it, and to me the footage from the beginning looks like Jay saw Tim approaching Benedict Hall, and right when Tim saw that the door was open, he turned around and run away. Not super hectic, as he were fleeing something, but rather in a "omg, I have to get my x" kinda movement. What was it, that he was looking for? Because if you look closely, you can see that there is something on his back, that could very likely be the strap of the chest cam. So he is not going after a cam.


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Why Benedict Hall? If Hoody plan was for Jay to get shot, or at least for Jay and Alex to confront, why in Benedict Hall? I mean, Alex didn't look like he could not leave the building, he was free and armed. If he were in just for the kill, he could have got Jay at the building he was sitting at. But no, he kinda "waited" for Jay to enter Benedict Hall, so he knew Jay would be around, yet he still waited to enter this specific building.
Also, both Tim and Jay checked the Photograph room, and although they found nothing (Was that a bloody cloth and Hoody water bottle lying on the table?), both coughed in there. Tim even has some static in his audio.
All the events from 80 could have transpired exactly the same way in any other abandoned building, why Benedict Hall? I don't think we're done with this place yet.


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What's Hoodys take on this one? Did things just went as he has planned? Was that a big screw up from his point of view? Why did he reveal himself to Tim at the end? And yes, I think that was a reveal. He didn't looked or acted like "Oh damn, I got caught!", but rather like "Hey dude." He just disappeared when Tim started to run towards him and calling him out. But nothing happened to Tim. Why then making Tim aware of my presence in Benedict Hall? And why did Tim go in there IN THE DARK?


A bit more is troubling me, but I think this wall of text is enough at the moment.

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 		Why are people acting like Jay is dead? Yes, he got shot in the stomach, and that would normally kill you if you left it like that for a good bit, but this is Marble Hornets. Tons of supernatural shit happens. Who knows if that can somehow be fixed?

Jay being dead or alive is definitely still up in the air.

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Why are people acting like Jay is dead? Yes, he got shot in the stomach, and that would normally kill you if you left it like that for a good bit, but this is Marble Hornets. Tons of supernatural shit happens. Who knows if that can somehow be fixed?

Jay being dead or alive is definitely still up in the air.


Well, the protagonist, that was our point of to some extent, just got shot and then abducted by the Operator - not in the style he was before (#72) or Tim was (#65), but rather in the Bruce (#49) or Jessica (#76) style. And while Alex, Tim and Jay seemed to come back after their abduction, Bruce, Jessica and others weren't seen again - at least not in this world.

While still all things could happen (Did Jay finally found the ark?), it seems to be a rather dire situation.

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 		Oh yeah, there is definitely a good chance Jay will survive it. In fact the past like 7 pages have been discussing different ways Jay could be alive (hoody being future Jay, or Jay being time frozen withing the operator realm)

Personally I'm leaning towards slendy realm. Tim will travel to it to rescue them, and find Jay and Jessica huddled together.

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