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[Ascalondion]

[Lytrigian]

[MariahTedder]

[gennerx]

We all knew Tim was going to take over the show.
I guess this was easiest way to make that happen.

[Veggiekeks]

Hi I'm new, lurked a long timey wimeyy wimey though.

Here are some of my thoughts i wanted to share:

On the "knowing jay's" passwords argument:
Some people were arguing that TTA's ability to hack jay's accounts supports the hoodie=future jay hypothesis, while others reasoned the other way around.
What i think about this is: Why do we assume that jay changed his passwords at all? Of course he is freaked out when someone hacks his account, but on the other hand has TTA helped him in various ways or at least provided some sort of information. TTA is for jay clearly important so for me it is not unreasonable for jay to think:
"Well this guy is mysterious and creepy but he knows something, so it could be handy to have a direct communication channel with him", so he does not change the password.
The same applies reasoning applies to Tim.

Now on the subject of timey wimeyy wimeytravel in general and specifically futurejay:
(i know there has been said very much about this now, but i think im offering a new perspective here)

My greatest problem with the timey wimeyy wimey travel hypothesis is that it does not provide reasonable motives for futurejay to do all the hoodiestuff.

I'm not buying the closing the loop story because i don't understand at all why futurejay would be interested in closing the loop.

(From a physical perspective of course it wouldnt be necessary for futurejay to have motives as his actions would be determined because a timey wimeyy wimeyloop must be stable. But this is simply not a good story.)

So if futurejay is not interested in closing the loop the only other possibility is, that he wants to change the past.

Warning: it gets philosophical here

I don't see why changing the past is something one wants to achieve. Ontological it is doubtful if changing the past really pretends the changed parts from ever happening/existing and even if you could make something truly unhappened, you would still remember those events, so you wont be able to truly free yourself from the thought that something should be different.

(on a sidenote: physically changing the past is only possible if you want to postulate that the timey wimeyy wimeytraveler travels to an other dimension, too, which is clearly not the case in MH)


So this were the two remarks i wanted to make, now, what i think happened in entry #80:
I don't think that hoodie wanted jay to get shot. Mostly because of Quadrant wich i interpret as hoodie saying "i made myself the third liar by leading jay to the college implying i had captured Alex."
This means Alex must have somehow managed to escape. I can only speculate on how this happened but the most probable scenario for me is, that hoodie calculated a shorter timey wimeyy wimey for tim and jay to show up. Because he had to wait longer than expected he ran out of pills which explains hers/his condition in entry #79. Thus weakened Alex managed to break free maybe with Slendy's help.


edit: some spelling stuff (not native speaker)

[DHawk314]

Actually Jay mentioned having changed his password post-totheark Twitpics on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/marblehornets/status/7281352411971584

He also mentions doing it post-enttry #37 at the end of Entry #38.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMcgL3hgMYM

[SilentMedusa]

You know, it's a good thing I found Unfiction through TV Tropes, otherwise I'd see the phrase "timey wimey" keep popping up and have no idea what the hell it meant .

So... I guess I'm the only one that doesn't think Tim had some kind of "plan" involving Hoody that went awry? And I'm also the only one that doesn't think Hoody wanted Jay to get shot or taken? And while I'm at it, I don't think Hoody let Alex go, either. I think Alex got loose on his own.

[Dacad]

Around the time of the Tweetpocalypse surrounding entry 37, didn't Jay mention that his Youtube password was on an old email account that he didn't know how to access? If this is the case, then maybe that's how totheark did it. He's had the email account this whole time. Jay could have made a new Youtube channel, but he decided to just stick with the old one.

As for hacking all of Jay's passwords, Hoody could be using some supernatural ability to do that. Maybe he has some sort of precognition? He was able to track Jay down to the random parking lot in Entry 39, pick up the camera in Entry 41 and casually get it to Jay's car despite the Operator being around, be in the tunnel in Entry 76 (and possibly more than that) and live, and has caused distortion. Being a good hacker would be the least impressive of Hoody's skills, is what I'm saying.

[FalloutGhoul]

I'm starting to think the whole "Hoody = Future Jay" stuff is a running joke of some kind.

And when I saw Tweetpocalypse, my first thought was Nutella.

[rkmobius]

[Miller]

really?

[SignerJ]

Alternate Theory

[Animal]

Reminder...

[Neroslol]

[Cinema Film Network]

This probably won't even be read, but for what it's worth, I'll post my theory on what is happening so far:

(1) Hoody is now working with Alex. In the past, he wasn't, but his understanding of the situation probably changed at some point.

(2) Alex and Hoody's goal is to make the Operator go away.

(3) The only way to make the Operator go away is for Alex to kill certain people and sacrifice them to him. This is what happened with most of the original cast of MH (Alex was lying in 22), to Jessica, and now, apparently, to Jay. It is quite obvious that Alex has been methodically killing people.

(4) The reason that Alex and Hoody fought in the past was probably due to some misunderstanding. Hoody was working against the Operator, and thought that Alex was helping him, when really, Alex has been working for the Operator to appease him and make him go away. When Hoody realized this, he switched sides and made it his goal to coax Jay into seeking out Alex so he could be killed by him.

I have no reason for or against believing who Hoody is, including Brian or TTA. This is my sense of what's happening so far.