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gazza · Veteran Joined: 14 Apr 2013 Posts: 101

Something that I didn't see mentioned but I guess isn't important now is that Jay is wearing the same clothes as in Entry #79. Although it seems like everyone already has deduced that Jay had been waiting there since that entry.

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Vinny · Veteran Joined: 07 Nov 2011 Posts: 136

Jay's dead? I don't mean to sound insensitive or anything but we gotta go.

**Posted:** Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:48 am

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Amethyst.64 · Decorated Joined: 27 Aug 2013 Posts: 180 Location: UK

Just another random thing about this entry.

Did anyone else think Hoody felt uncharacteristically meek and powerless? They're brief appearance poking their head around the corner then promptly running away made them seem a lot less threatening than even as recently as appearances in #79 for example.

It's consistent with Quadrant and the 'I CAN NOT HELP' message, I just thought about it and figured I liked it.

**Posted:** Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:55 am

cliswp · Boot Joined: 09 Dec 2013 Posts: 18

I think in general hoody has been weakening. At first he was five steps in front of everyone else, always having an escape plan if he got caught, very silent, very professional. But he's been losing his lead. Alex got the jump on him, he ran out of pills, Tim and Jay stalked him through the hospital without him knowing, and Jay almost cornered him at the school because his sickness is getting worse. His most recent plan, for Jay to take down Alex (which is what it seemed like to me) failed pretty badly. He's grasping at straws now.

**Posted:** Tue Dec 10, 2013 6:43 am

Ztakk · Entrenched Joined: 09 Jan 2013 Posts: 868

So I've watched 80 multiple times now, and it looks more and more like it wasn't a severe gutshot as everyone seems to think.

We know his wound is of the left side of his body. However, when the camera shows his hand covered in blood, it looks to be on the far left side of his body in between his gut and his chest.

**Posted:** Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:34 am

thisistheend · Veteran Joined: 06 Mar 2013 Posts: 121

Is anyone else confused as to why Entries #53 to #78 and #80 suddenly disappeared?

**Posted:** Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:03 am

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smgrant1100 · Greenhorn Joined: 17 Oct 2013 Posts: 8

I've been thinking about Tim's motives in this entry for a while now and have drawn a few conclusions. Maybe I just desperately want to believe this, but I don't think Tim intended for Jay to get hurt. I don't even think he intended for him to be there.

In Entry 72, Tim stood between a seizing Jay and TO, the nightmarish monster who had plagued him since he was a child, so Jay couldn't be Slendernapped. If he didn't care about Jay, then he would have booked it out of there, but he didn't. You could also hear the desperation in his voice as he was looking for Jay and hear how worried he was when he found him. I can't imagine that 8 entries later, Tim would be up for putting Jay at risk. Tim is Jay's protector.

In this entry, I would point to the way Tim was screaming for Jay. He again sounded very desperate and worried. As someone pointed out earlier, he thought Jay was at his house without a camera, so why would Tim think that the camera he found was Jay's before viewing the tape? He probably thought it had been left there by Alex or Hoody, and if he thought Alex was still Hoody's captive, then the bloody handprint could have easily been Alex's. When he watched the tape, he realized what happened, and started looking for Jay. Now let us remember that Alex had been in the building with a gun and vastly improved aim; if Tim didn't care about Jay, why would he draw attention to himself when Alex could still be nearby. Assuming 78-80 all took place on the same day (which is what I believe to be true), then Alex could definitely have been lurking in the building, waiting for Tim to come back, and Tim is damn well smart enough to know that. He put himself at risk, again, to try to protect Jay.

Now, in regards to him being in cahoots with Hoody, I don't have a solid answer. "You set this up," could mean a number of things, but I don't take it to mean that Tim was working with Hoody. It seemed more like Tim was trying to find someone to blame, probably because he was blaming himself for leaving Jay at his house. At that point, I think he had gone home, seen the message on the mirror and put everything together. He blamed Hoody for freeing Jay and leading Jay to his possible death. This part of the theory isn't nearly as substantiated though, so it could definitely be me seeing what I want to see.

TL;DR Tim was not in on any plan that would put Jay at risk.

**Posted:** Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:59 am

rkmobius · Boot Joined: 07 Dec 2013 Posts: 32

So ostensibly Jay's clothes and paraphernalia and bag get transported along with him -- Tim wasn't naked and had his camera.

So that means that Jay's car keys would probably be in the Slendyverse, right? Meaning that Tim would have to break into Jay's car, still parked at the college, if he wanted to get at what's inside. I'm assuming Jay's been living out of it, or a hotel room, for quite a while (since the apartment burned down?). Meaning that if he had tapes that he didn't want viewers to see, that's what he'd have to do. Right?

Break window in case of MORE TAPES.

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