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Hoody = Future Jay theory debate
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ZargggModerator
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Considering that was merely a DVD extra and is largely considered non-canon, I'd be surprised if it did contain any useful information.

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JAL13
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Zarggg wrote:
Considering that was merely a DVD extra and is largely considered non-canon, I'd be surprised if it did contain any useful information.


Except for the fact that Tim says that quote about wearing a mask to hide who he really is, or something along those lines. That was obviously meant to hint at him being Masky so I'd figure there may be other hints in there as well.

Then again Sarah shows up a lot in the trailer, but is never heard from again after those two or so entries that she is in. So take the trailer with a grain of salt I guess.

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device wrote:
Personally, I agree with Sha Noran. I think one of the characters coming back again and again would go a LONG way to explain a lot of the inconsistencies I've seen in the series. (I don't necessarily agree with his exact theory, but I think the time travel aspect is a distinct possibility).

I like especially like the idea that some of the tapes we see might actually have scenes from past failed attempts (like when Jay sees the video of Alex attacking him after giving him the tapes). Jay didn't say he didn't remember that happening, he said he remembered it happening differently.
Maybe Hoody keeps the tapes to help him keep track of past attempts, who knows?

Anyway, I like to think it's all hinted at in this video. Laughing
I'm sure almost everyone's seen it. I think it would be hilarious if it had the clues to the whole series was in it the whole time.



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(my aplogies if we are not supposed to post this here).
Alex talks about time travel, Brian talks about being stuck in a loop (and also wears a hoody), etc.


Holy shit, that just reminded me of another interesting point! Remember how there's Entry 7, but also a TTA with footage from that same shoot? And there's a girl in the back seat in one (the Entry I think), but then she is distinctly missing from the back seat in the other footage (the TTA I think). Perhaps something that was changed. And that is specifically the Entry that the "loop of unhappiness" quote originates from... Coincidence? We never managed to explain how or why she was definitely there in one and definitely not in the other. TO appears as well, in one of the most public places we've seen him show up.

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JAL13 wrote:

Except for the fact that Tim says that quote about wearing a mask to hide who he really is, or something along those lines. That was obviously meant to hint at him being Masky so I'd figure there may be other hints in there as well.


Let me be more specific: Troy & co. have stated previously (though I do not remember when at this time) that the trailer for the in-universe student film Marble Hornets is not to be considered canon for the web series. It's an entirely optional extra and probably an excuse for them to exercise their comedic juices, which is what most of their film projects are outside of Marble Hornets.

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Zarggg wrote:
JAL13 wrote:

Except for the fact that Tim says that quote about wearing a mask to hide who he really is, or something along those lines. That was obviously meant to hint at him being Masky so I'd figure there may be other hints in there as well.


Let me be more specific: Troy & co. have stated previously (though I do not remember when at this time) that the trailer for the in-universe student film Marble Hornets is not to be considered canon for the web series. It's an entirely optional extra and probably an excuse for them to exercise their comedic juices, which is what most of their film projects are outside of Marble Hornets.


Oh okay thanks for clearing that up. I thought it was more of a "don't look at it too seriously," but still consider it part of the story.

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Sha Noran wrote:
device wrote:
Personally, I agree with Sha Noran. I think one of the characters coming back again and again would go a LONG way to explain a lot of the inconsistencies I've seen in the series. (I don't necessarily agree with his exact theory, but I think the time travel aspect is a distinct possibility).

I like especially like the idea that some of the tapes we see might actually have scenes from past failed attempts (like when Jay sees the video of Alex attacking him after giving him the tapes). Jay didn't say he didn't remember that happening, he said he remembered it happening differently.
Maybe Hoody keeps the tapes to help him keep track of past attempts, who knows?

Anyway, I like to think it's all hinted at in this video. Laughing
I'm sure almost everyone's seen it. I think it would be hilarious if it had the clues to the whole series was in it the whole time.



YouTube: Link


(my aplogies if we are not supposed to post this here).
Alex talks about time travel, Brian talks about being stuck in a loop (and also wears a hoody), etc.


Holy shit, that just reminded me of another interesting point! Remember how there's Entry 7, but also a TTA with footage from that same shoot? And there's a girl in the back seat in one (the Entry I think), but then she is distinctly missing from the back seat in the other footage (the TTA I think). Perhaps something that was changed. And that is specifically the Entry that the "loop of unhappiness" quote originates from... Coincidence? We never managed to explain how or why she was definitely there in one and definitely not in the other. TO appears as well, in one of the most public places we've seen him show up.


I would not look too deep into that, or much of anything that subtle coming from early season 1. I doubt they even thought of a Hoody character at that point.

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Who ever is TTA has existed since Alex's MH.
Just look at Exit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn42IHeear4

This sorta disproves Hoody=TTA. Well at-least in the beginning

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I love how I started the "Hoody is future Jay" theory and when I did people threw it out, laughed at me, spit on me, dumped the contents of their septic tanks on my hot, sweaty, ready naked body and now all of you are buying into it like it's Bible-truth without so much as crediting me.

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Serum wrote:
I love how I started the "Hoody is future Jay" theory and when I did people threw it out, laughed at me, spit on me, dumped the contents of their septic tanks on my hot, sweaty, ready naked body and now all of you are buying into it like it's Bible-truth without so much as crediting me.


HEY! This ain't Gamestop. Stop trying to sell me that overpriced theory. I'll never buy it.

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JAL13 wrote:
Zarggg wrote:
Considering that was merely a DVD extra and is largely considered non-canon, I'd be surprised if it did contain any useful information.


Except for the fact that Tim says that quote about wearing a mask to hide who he really is, or something along those lines. That was obviously meant to hint at him being Masky so I'd figure there may be other hints in there as well.

Then again Sarah shows up a lot in the trailer, but is never heard from again after those two or so entries that she is in. So take the trailer with a grain of salt I guess.


There was no "hinting" that Tim was Masky in the trailer. The trailer was released long AFTER the Masky reveal. You can't really say it's hinting at an identity we already knew long long long before that.

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Sha Noran
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Serum wrote:
I love how I started the "Hoody is future Jay" theory and when I did people threw it out, laughed at me, spit on me, dumped the contents of their septic tanks on my hot, sweaty, ready naked body and now all of you are buying into it like it's Bible-truth without so much as crediting me.


Despite the fact that I think you're trolling, I'll respond. I actually originally considered that Hoody was future Jay before I ever joined the forum, lurked the forum, or heard of you. At the time there was little to no evidence other than it seeming to make sense in a lot of ways. I'm only now strongly reconsidering it as legitimate due to the most recent Entry and the discussion arising from it, after having abandoned it due to harsh negativity towards that theory here when I first joined. It makes even more sense now than it did a year ago, and that alone is saying something.

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Hoody is future Hoody. Marble Hornets is solved and we can all go home now.

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Sha Noran wrote:
Serum wrote:
I love how I started the "Hoody is future Jay" theory and when I did people threw it out, laughed at me, spit on me, dumped the contents of their septic tanks on my hot, sweaty, ready naked body and now all of you are buying into it like it's Bible-truth without so much as crediting me.


Despite the fact that I think you're trolling, I'll respond. I actually originally considered that Hoody was future Jay before I ever joined the forum, lurked the forum, or heard of you. At the time there was little to no evidence other than it seeming to make sense in a lot of ways. I'm only now strongly reconsidering it as legitimate due to the most recent Entry and the discussion arising from it, after having abandoned it due to harsh negativity towards that theory here when I first joined. It makes even more sense now than it did a year ago, and that alone is saying something.


k

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Osttle wrote:
Who ever is TTA has existed since Alex's MH.
Just look at Exit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn42IHeear4

This sorta disproves Hoody=TTA. Well at-least in the beginning


Tim was TTA in the first place. Hoody became TTA in season 2.

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wassupbro wrote:
Osttle wrote:
Who ever is TTA has existed since Alex's MH.
Just look at Exit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn42IHeear4

This sorta disproves Hoody=TTA. Well at-least in the beginning


Tim was TTA in the first place. Hoody became TTA in season 2.


I thought we agreed it was Alex filming Jay in Exit?

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