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lonsumtravlr
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TheOperator wrote:
We still need to find out who's left alive out of the victims. If they're all just dead, that's boring. Jessica had one of the worst deaths ever if so, for one thing and it gives us too little to go on in regards to people like Amy and Sarah.


Disagree that "if they're all just dead, that's boring." I think that would heighten the tragedy of TO stalking and shutting down the MH project. As for Jessica, she's the only individual involved--other than Tim and Alex--who I think isn't dead. The sequence showing her purported abduction by TO makes no sense (if what we're seeing is what we're supposed to see, then it's poorly done).

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Sha Noran
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 		Im still anticipating something will happen today, April 4th.

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lonsumtravlr wrote:
TheOperator wrote:
We still need to find out who's left alive out of the victims. If they're all just dead, that's boring. Jessica had one of the worst deaths ever if so, for one thing and it gives us too little to go on in regards to people like Amy and Sarah.


Disagree that "if they're all just dead, that's boring." I think that would heighten the tragedy of TO stalking and shutting down the MH project. As for Jessica, she's the only individual involved--other than Tim and Alex--who I think isn't dead. The sequence showing her purported abduction by TO makes no sense (if what we're seeing is what we're supposed to see, then it's poorly done).


Well put another way, if they just died offscreen having ultimately contributed nothing to the story but to be victims, that's boring. Seth at least got to be Alex's "comrade" in helping him find out how the others disappeared before being the supposed last to get taken. But we have yet to see the circumstances of Sarah or Amy's disappearance.

It's particularly bad in Amy's case because she'll probably end up just being someone for Alex to want to save. Then the "twist" is she's been dead all this time because there wasn't anywhere for her to go beyond being a damsel in distress.

In Sarah's case, she probably is dead. We might not ever learn how though, which raises the question as to why she ever appeared in the first place. Could've added an extra dimension to things by showing TTA trying to save her or her questioning Alex about why he's doing these things etc...

I almost forgot this was about if the next entry is Tim and Alex's confrontation and it ends there, not just if they don't address the above. But yeah, there's a couple of reasons why I hope the upcoming confrontation between the two isn't the end.

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lonsumtravlr wrote:
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We need a complete reveal for Tim's past and then a showdown with him and Alex...so maybe two entry's.


We don't really need that much more from Tim's past. Entries #60.5 and #66 covered almost everything that's necessary. What would be nice would be some light shed on whether there's anything that Tim's been leaving out of the entries under his control or of whatever of his past from the start of the MH project to the IG present, that may be relevant.


Tim's the cause of everything. Hoody knew this. They haven't addressed exactly what Tim did to start all this.

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 		What if Tim's parents had a camcorder when he was younger and he found it and started messing with it and unknowingly filmed TO, causing this whole mess?

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What if Tim's parents had a camcorder when he was younger and he found it and started messing with it and unknowingly filmed TO, causing this whole mess?


I find this highly unlikely

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lonsumtravlr
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gennerx wrote:
lonsumtravlr wrote:
gennerx wrote:
We need a complete reveal for Tim's past and then a showdown with him and Alex...so maybe two entry's.


We don't really need that much more from Tim's past. Entries #60.5 and #66 covered almost everything that's necessary. What would be nice would be some light shed on whether there's anything that Tim's been leaving out of the entries under his control or of whatever of his past from the start of the MH project to the IG present, that may be relevant.


Tim's the cause of everything. Hoody knew this. They haven't addressed exactly what Tim did to start all this.


I know he's the cause by virtue of having been stalked by TO. I don't know if they really need to unpack and explain all of the history there--the fact that Tim was stalked in the hospital and then somehow accidentally unleashed him on his friends, cast, and crewmates is what's most important.

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TheOperator wrote:
Well put another way, if they just died offscreen having ultimately contributed nothing to the story but to be victims, that's boring. Seth at least got to be Alex's "comrade" in helping him find out how the others disappeared before being the supposed last to get taken. But we have yet to see the circumstances of Sarah or Amy's disappearance.

It's particularly bad in Amy's case because she'll probably end up just being someone for Alex to want to save. Then the "twist" is she's been dead all this time because there wasn't anywhere for her to go beyond being a damsel in distress.

In Sarah's case, she probably is dead. We might not ever learn how though, which raises the question as to why she ever appeared in the first place. Could've added an extra dimension to things by showing TTA trying to save her or her questioning Alex about why he's doing these things etc...


I hope the next entry's not the end too. That would be a huge letdown and pretty damn bad writing (I doubt it will be the end--didn't Troy say somewhere in the past month that he "hoped to wrap up Marble Hornets by July"?)

I see where you're coming from with Amy and Sarah, but I don't think that we need to know the circumstances of how she disappeared. I hate to say it, but it seems that her entire purpose was to contribute to the realism of the series. If we only saw Brian and Tim on tape acting scenes in Season One, we wouldn't really get the sense that this was really a fleshed out movie. But we get at least one scene (well, only one scene--aaannnddd a trailer!) with someone else: we get a better sense that there was actually a movie being made that was sabotaged both by Alex's deteriorating mental health and by TO.

I really hate to say it, but Sarah's not really that important at all to Marble Hornets the web series-slash-ARE. Even the Entry #84 dialogue about her film counterpart being the film Brian's "secret" doesn't do any more than establish a link, if maybe a tenuous one, with "Null" (and maybe stronger evidence that Brian was Hoody; I'm starting to agree with some others that Entry #84 isn't yet definitive)--it doesn't go much deeper than that. She's a victim of some very unfortunate circumstances. I guess it could be interesting to see how she was taken, etc., but I prefer the unknown here. That anyone survived at all, if there was a lot of death and Alex was somehow helping TO to harvest victims, is frankly amazing.

As for Amy, I don't know if she'll end up being someone Alex wants to save. It's just as likely that Alex either ultimately killed her or that something happened to her that resulted in her death and abduction by TO. I can't help but wonder why that photo of Amy was in Alex's blanket (or sleeping bag, I can't remember which) in Tim's attic. To remember her, sure--but was he remembering her because she was on the run and he wanted to get her back, or is somehow hoping he can avenge her? Or was he remembering her because he was directly complicit in her disappearance and maybe her death, and so he was still thinking about her out of a blend of love and guilt? I don't know if that will be answered--though I wouldn't be surprised if something of an effort was made. I think an explanation of what happened to Amy is far more likely to be coming than an explanation of what happened to Sarah is.

I don't think everything needs to be explained. Amy maybe, Jessica maybe, but Sarah--nah. Explain far too little but tie up a few things and put a sweet bow on it, you get the finale of Lost. Explain too much and you get an entry that undermines the entire series. Explain just enough, you just may have a good finale, even if it shocks the DVD sales for a bit.

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gennerx
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lonsumtravlr wrote:
gennerx wrote:
lonsumtravlr wrote:
gennerx wrote:
We need a complete reveal for Tim's past and then a showdown with him and Alex...so maybe two entry's.


We don't really need that much more from Tim's past. Entries #60.5 and #66 covered almost everything that's necessary. What would be nice would be some light shed on whether there's anything that Tim's been leaving out of the entries under his control or of whatever of his past from the start of the MH project to the IG present, that may be relevant.


Tim's the cause of everything. Hoody knew this. They haven't addressed exactly what Tim did to start all this.


I know he's the cause by virtue of having been stalked by TO. I don't know if they really need to unpack and explain all of the history there--the fact that Tim was stalked in the hospital and then somehow accidentally unleashed him on his friends, cast, and crewmates is what's most important.


The somehow accidental unleashing is what needs to be explained if nothing else.

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gennerx wrote:
The somehow accidental unleashing is what needs to be explained if nothing else.


I have this theory that TO is driven to and/or fed by fear (and possibly other negative emotions.) When Tim was talked into auditioning for Marble Hornets, it's likely he was nervous. Add in the fact that he was likely feeling awkward about being there, as evidenced by his awkward pacing about, looking into the window, etc. These negative feelings might have been enough to cause a minor TO-related blip (the slight visual tearing you see during Tim's audition. Combine that with Alex's negative emotions that he experienced as a result of nobody coming to sign up for Marble Hornets until the very end, and it's reasonable that TO could have saw Alex as a target as well. During this whole thing, Brian seems pretty happy-go-lucky, so there's no reason to think that TO would have targeted him at that point.

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 		I was expecting an entry last night. I still think that something big went down last night, which would mean that we'll have an entry soon, unless Alex killed Tim.
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The Happy Madman wrote:
I was expecting an entry last night. I still think that something big went down last night, which would mean that we'll have an entry soon, unless Alex killed Tim.


Alex and Tim killed each other and no one is left to post the video.

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gennerx wrote:
The Happy Madman wrote:
I was expecting an entry last night. I still think that something big went down last night, which would mean that we'll have an entry soon, unless Alex killed Tim.


Alex and Tim killed each other and no one is left to post the video.


Entry #84 = Last Entry? TWIST! Someone uploads the video of Tim and Alex killing each other and the title card reads, "Regards."

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JAL13 wrote:
gennerx wrote:
The Happy Madman wrote:
I was expecting an entry last night. I still think that something big went down last night, which would mean that we'll have an entry soon, unless Alex killed Tim.


Alex and Tim killed each other and no one is left to post the video.


Entry #84 = Last Entry? TWIST! Someone uploads the video of Tim and Alex killing each other and the title card reads, "Regards."


They should go full White Elephants and delete the channel without explanation.

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