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CONTACT/PUZZLE(?)- DISC FROM CW
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SnakeGhost
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 		Re: Hidden Message Under Disk Label
enaxor wrote:
Wow! Thanks to Jhonathan_Hiberd in chat asked if I would look at the disk again. He thought the label was to perfect in it's placement to then have a corner of it kind of pulled up. So with his urging I pulled the label up and there was a message.

"if you hold unix up to you ear, Do you hear the c?"

Any ideas?? Thanks again Jhonathan_Hiberd


Maybe it has something to do with seashells and aquachat?

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 		OK. Still grasping at straws. But what about this one.

enaxor wrote:
Wow! Thanks to Jhonathan_Hiberd in chat asked if I would look at the disk again. He thought the label was to perfect in it's placement to then have a corner of it kind of pulled up. So with his urging I pulled the label up and there was a message.

"if you hold unix up to you ear, Do you hear the c?"

Any ideas?? Thanks again Jhonathan_Hiberd


What if the disc has something on it in Unix? I found this:

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This course will teach you to write Bourne shell Scripts. We will then learn about C shell scripts, and will have a brief introduction to perl as well. Scripting skills have many applications, including:
Quote:
http://users.sdsc.edu/~steube/Bshell/


There's a whole lot more. I'm hoping this helps someone else. Or it could be something just as easy as what SnakeGhost wrote above. Smile

*Edit - I guess I just keep thinking how CW said I should be more interested in the technical stuff.
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 		Image work
Not much luck on the film frames I'm afraid - I'm still intrigued by the middle region where it alternates colours and then flares white - thought about Matrix but I can't really see anything at all. It's a very dark film though.

gypsychk, I had a closer look at the concom.jpg and it's pretty much the same story - you just can't get the quality back once it's been reduced (oh how I wish for those Hollywood computers where you just saw "zoom in - enhance quality" and you get the license plate of the car that shot JFK or something).

Here's what I did get - it's blown up and added contrast - I can definitely see that the first word starts with a J on the left. I'll leave it to your imagination for the rest.

As for the Unix/C statement - I definitely think we're gonna need someone around here with some shell experience - isn't that another way of entering a website (like Telnet or something)?
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 		Re: Image work
mysteryjones wrote:
As for the Unix/C statement - I definitely think we're gonna need someone around here with some shell experience - isn't that another way of entering a website (like Telnet or something)?


The C shell (or csh) is one of the many flavors of Unix shells out there. Another is the Bourne shell (or bsh). The shell is the command programming language which provides access to the UNIX OS from the command line. Here's a good tutorial on the C shell:

http://rhols66.adsl.netsonic.fi/era/unix/shell.html
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 		Ok, I haven't read that much about this game yet, so I may be way off base but I wanted to make a comment about the saying.

This is a pretty common sig for people to use on high-tech lists. I know I've heard it a couple times before on Full-Disclosure. Usualy it reads something like "if you hold a unix shell to your ear, do you hear the c?" It's a comment about the C shell. It could be possible that we are supposed to telnet/SSH into a server, which would give us access to the C shell, but that could also be way out of bounds if it's really their admin access point.

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 		It sounds like you know what you're talking about ...
Help us, AnthraX101 ... you're our only hope.

So far I don't think we have UNIX people on this ... can you take that and run with it? I think most of us wouldn't know where to begin.
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 		New info from 6 April chat with the Prof
Hi, all ... appears what we need must be obtained via deleted files on the disk.

See: http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=37139#37139

Currently being worked out by enaxor and friends.
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 		Questions about disk
Disk timeline the way I understand it:

1. Prof. (CW) has disk.

2. Prof. (CW) puts information (not blueprints) about TOBI on it.

3. Prof. (CW) gives the disk to Jude.
Someone, presumably one of the students, puts additional files on the disk. [These files are the ones that are listed in this thread. (midi, jpg's) i'm not listing them here yet because I don't know the complete list.]

4. The three students, including Jude, get expelled.

5. Disk found left behind.

6. Somehow [do we know how? I didn't see it] the professor gets the disk.

7. Professor gives disk to Enaxor.

8. Professor mentions in chat that some files may have been deleted and need to be recovered.

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 		Guys I have some Unix experience - I've got a CompSci degree and that was done mailny using Unix boxes. We used KSH - the Korn Shell - though, but the main commands are all pretty similar, and anything else can be looked up. It's just like an extra complicated MS DOS really.
I would be happy to try and telnet in somewhere if we can figure where to start...
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Tien_Le wrote:
And here is the picture that looks like frames from a movie.

Apologies, for I do not really know the context within the story at this point, but I can play with the picture from a technical angle. Reconstructing what I can from the movie, here it is. Basically, I have a process that butchers up the big image into frames (assuming frames go left-to-right, top-to-bottom), explodes the frames from 8x6 to 80x60 (doing some interpolation to fuzz out the edges so they are not so blocky), and strings them into a big, fat animated gif. Yes the file is a little bloated--that is because each frame has its own color table. Another caveat is that I really don't know how many frames per second this thing is, so I just have a GIF delay of zero on each frame. Also, it does not repeat. It may feel like it does, but each half is just a long sequence of about 4000 images and will end when it reaches the end (at least, when viewing it in the Safari web browser--your mileage may vary).

I was also able to successfully convert the sequence of images into a video, running at 15 frames per second. The playback is obviously a little fast. Even with this speed, the video clocks in at nearly 8 minutes. Because the video is still that 80x60 postage-stamp size, you probably want to double or quadruple the size of the playback window.

QuickTime movie (5 mb)
Animated GIF (23 mb)

Edit: after chatting with grumpyboy, I threw together a variant at 6 frames per second (5 mb). The speed is a little more correct, but still a little fast, only the motion is much more choppy. Most likely, the still frames were grabbed from the original movie at a rate closer to one frame per second or even one frame every couple of seconds.
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Tien_Le wrote:
And here is the picture that looks like frames from a movie.


I asked some movie freak friends and the general consensus seems to be the Matrix. Although one guy thinks it's Videodrome.
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 		Purple? Red?
I don't remember the purple/red bits from Matrix ... willing to have memory rebooted, though ... when would that have been from?

What about Natural Born Killers? That shot scenes that were blue/green/etc. Don't remember it well enough to say, but here are some stills: http://www.geocities.com/aaronbcaldwell/NBK1.html
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 		Are we being pointed to look here "Who watches the watchers." ST-TNG
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=37159#37159
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Varin wrote:
I asked some movie freak friends and the general consensus seems to be the Matrix. Although one guy thinks it's Videodrome.

My first thought was The Matrix, but there are a number of brighter outdoor-looking scenes in the thumbnails. The outdoor scenes in The Matrix always had a slightly green tint that does not quite seem consistent with our still frames. Plus, that purple/red/green/white-with-dot sequence about two thirds of the way down the thumbnail sheet doesn't quite seem to match up with anything I remember (...but, then, it has been a while since I saw the first film).

Any thoughts on what the "vert" prefix means? "Thum" is pretty obviously "thumbnail(s)," but that "vert" is bugging me. I doubt it is "vertical," since the thumbnails seem to progress horizontally.
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 		Re: Purple? Red?
gypsychk wrote:
I don't remember the purple/red bits from Matrix ... willing to have memory rebooted, though ... when would that have been from?


yeah, I'm not too sure. To be honest I haven't seen it in quite a while.

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What about Natural Born Killers? That shot scenes that were blue/green/etc. Don't remember it well enough to say, but here are some stills: http://www.geocities.com/aaronbcaldwell/NBK1.html


That one looks promising! Especially with the colored scenes! Anyone have a copy of this hand where they could check?
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