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EverymanHYBRID 2014
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Lithp
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 		Multiple people can be inHABITed at once. What is bizarre is that it has been suggested that all of the boys were inHABITed at once at one point.

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I might've misunderstood you, but if you're talking about the reason that HABIT has purple distortion whereas Slenderman doesn't, that would all be explained by the fact that they (as far as I've understood) are two completely different entities, with completely different affects on their surroundings.


I was pointing out how bizarre it is that Slenderman produces generic types of distortion & HABIT specifically produces a purple haze, & there is no overlap.

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However, in the post before that (on the canyouseethewords blog) there is a man posting, and at one point he says "The day the Habit broke down our door. He grabbed Julie, my wife. I can still hear her crying in my head. I ran to help her but the Habit just kicked me across the room." - which to me makes it sound like there's a third body/physical representation involved, of which Habit is the owner/controller. But it's rather clear that HABIT is partly in control of the typer (Johnny) at the time of typing it out, since he adds his own little remarks to the story.


HABIT was controlling someone else when the events actually took place, & was controlling Johnny when transcribing the events. However, HABIT did not actually do the typing, except when he makes his "own little remarks," as you put it, because he wanted to coerce Johnny into doing it himself.

On an unrelated note, since the Iteration Theory was mentioned in another thread, pertaining to why the Hybrids don't ever face the collective, I think it is once again time for me to voice my criticism for why the Iteration Theory, & any conclusions derived from it, are unreliable.

First, HABIT has associated with Firebrand, & the collective works for Slenderman. So if it is the same Slenderman haunting the HYBRIDS, then there's no real reason for the Collective not to get involved. On the other hand, assuming that the Collective simply ISN'T involved with the cycle, then HABIT's association with Firebrand makes no sense, because Firebrand & presumably Noah are outside of the Cycle, while HABIT is inside of this.

How do I know this? Well, that leads me to the 2nd point of criticism: Nobody knows what the Cycle is, who is in it, who is not in it, what the goal is, or what causes it to reset. All we know is that:

1. The Hybrids seem to have existed in the past.
2. The Hybrids seem to come back to life.
3. There is another sort of safe haven where they talk about the results of each "Iteration."
4. We often get videos seemingly from the future or things that just never happened.

Points 1 & 2 function on completely different levels. Point 1 involves the whole cast apparently dying & being reborn under different circumstances some time later. They also apparently leave evidence of their previous existence behind. On the other hand, Point 2 has individual Hybrids returning to life apparently at random, leaving little to no evidence that they actually died. One suggestion is that Point 2 is just the mechanism of keeping them alive until the unknown goal of Point 1 is met. But the only thing that we could really determine of Point 1 is that the Fairmount 4 all died one by one. There didn't seem to be any greater purpose that they worked towards. We also had unexpected situations like Alex & Jeff coming back to life when we'd previously speculated that they were either not a part of the cycle (Alex), or had been removed from it (Jeff).

Point 3 was struck a serious blow when we saw the Sanctuary, likely also the Candleverse, & that you don't have to die or meet some kind of cycle to end up there.

As for Point 4, nobody denies that time travel & alternate dimensions are at play in EMH. Or, for that matter, that some kind of "iteration" was discussed. I just don't think that it's this great cosmological cycle that everyone seems to think that it is. "Iteration," at its most basic, just describes repetition. Usually a desired goal is implied, but that goal could be as simple as successfully surviving & getting rid of Slenderman, HABIT, Rake, et al.

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Felloffalot
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Lithp
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 		Well, shit on a dick! I saw a comment on the timeline, but I thought it was just a troll. Gonna attempt to update that now.

Update: Well, I came close, but I just couldn't get the coding right for the month.

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Beidah
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 		Not sure what HABIT is talking about at the end. What was up with the Evan card?
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Magic-Josh
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two for the price of one

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Beidah
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 		But what about Jeff's parents? Weren't they in one of the hidden videos? What does this mean for Alex? Haven't we seen Jessalyn as well?
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danutzzz
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 		The guy in the first video is the guy who found Box #5, during the period of the SEVEN TRIALS.

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TheOperator
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So IG, everything is fiction? WHAAAAT. I have no idea where things are going from there. Though it seems kind of natural since the Slenderman aspect started out as a hoax.


danutzzz wrote:
The guy in the first video is the guy who found Box #5, during the period of the SEVEN TRIALS.


Nice, the ARG element is back a bit.

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Caers
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 		Sooooo, is that Green Feathers?

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TheOperator
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Sooooo, is that Green Feathers?


Nah, GreenFeathers found box six and his name was Nick.

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Lithp
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 		I haven't even gotten through the first video yet!

Partly because I can barely make out what they're saying....

Edit: Mindfucky.

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Halfway through, I was concluding that this must mean that they ARE the Mining Town 4. They WERE transported through time, & their family histories were fabricated.

Then came those lines about "all one house" & "we're fictional." That, to me, could be a point in favor either of that or some kind of Iteration Theory--I don't say "the" because it's more of an ambiguous mash-up of theories at this point--but there are a number of discrepancies here. We've seen the route to Evan's house. It didn't look like the Baldpate property. We've seen the layout from Alex's & Jeff's first floor to the 2nd, & where their basements are in relation to each other. Also, how would their friends not notice?


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WestRoadSal
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 		First video was easy enough to see where it was on the timeline when watching it.

But the second video, where do you put that?

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Lithp wrote:
Also, how would their friends not notice?


Maybe only the mining town four knew and to everybody else all the rooms were ordinary.

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Master of Octopi
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 		Damn, that's a good surprise to wake up to.

Spoiler tagging because of possible video reveals, though not really.

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I think this can explain what happened to Alex. Jeff is part of the Mining Town Four, along with Steph, Vinnie and Evan, right? So they're plucked from time and hidden in new lives, like a supernatural witness protection program (accomplished via either direct action by a benevolent entity like Dr. Corenthal, or through the Iteration Cycle). They're still connected to one another through friendship, but they're placed into separate families. This happens relatively recently, like in the last ten years. Their memories are modified to match their current situations; Evan remembers his sister and so on.

Jeff, though, is placed in a family with a younger brother. When the weirdness begins and Alex's parents are killed, Alex starts to crack up. We all remember the incredible awkwardness that filled a room every time he walked on camera, and it only got worse when Sparky died.

I think Alex started to go a little crazy because he started to remember two disparate timelines; one in which he was an only child, one in which he had Jeff as an older brother. His memories were rewritten when Jeff was placed there, but the job wasn't as clean as it was on the others for some reason. Either that or the trauma knocked some mental shrapnel loose and he wasn't able to reconcile the two separate memory streams. He struggled with which one actually happened, and when he finally came to the realization that what we've seen is the real course of his life (just a little bit after saying "I know that's not my dog," in reference to the sock-puppet)-- basically, when he's ready to jump in and actually help instead of just screw around and be screwed around with-- he's taken by Slendy (and bagged, or brought to HABIT's house, or whatever happened to him).

Basically, Alex was affected with a memory perception filter that fell apart when he looked at it closely enough, and it messed him up pretty badly.

The point is that people have theorized that the Rake was targeting Alex because he wasn't part of the Iteration and thus had to be culled or whatever. I think they're half correct. I think he was targeted for one of two possible reasons: either he had already started to try to reconcile the two memories and had to be stopped in order to prevent him from revealing the truth to the Hybrids, or the Rake wanted his real memories to surface and he was stopped before he could fully come to terms with it.


I could be totally wrong about this, but it feels right to me, or at least close to right. Though if anyone has anything that runs counter to it, I'd love to be proven wrong.

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The reason the same thing didn't happen with Evan's sister is that she wasn't involved in any of it at all. Evan didn't appear to live with her, and I've always thought she was older than him and would therefore naturally remember a time without Evan in her life, so her memories could be tampered with more effectively. Ditto with everyone's parents. (Though I'm basing my assumption that Evan's sister was older than him on nothing but what I've always pictured).


As an aside, I've been wondering lately if anything was going to happen with Evan's sister. She's been mentioned a few times, and I've kind of been hoping that she'd end up being relevant.
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I guess not.


Anyway, I'm so happy to see some real activity. It's probably my favorite series, and it looks like we're getting some real answers.

Editing to avoid double posting:

Mark definitely wasn't the dude in the bathroom in Severance. It'd be really nice to get an answer on that. Maybe once Vinnie goes downstairs...

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 		Up to this point-in-time, I had been treating the main EverymanHYBRID cast as being reincarnations of the Mining Town 4
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but with Vinnie's exclamation that they are "fiction" my next thought is that they are copies of the previous group, imagined into life by... someone. Maybe they are figments of their own imagination!

Is this why we never saw what Lexi (the girl Vinnie was sweet on) looked like? Was she someone that only existed in their heads?


I'm certainly eager to hear what everyone else's thoughts are as my head is too befuddled by this revelation to think properly and someone's bound to mention something else that hasn't even occurred to me yet!

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 		I'm so friggin' lost.
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