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Lithp wrote:
...& oh dear shit, "we're going to have guests" was foreshadowing this Crossover Fever, wasn't it?

I'm afraid so. Sad
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JosiahMiller wrote:
On one hand I can sympathize with people who don't want to have to watch a separate series to understand some of the plot but... I hate to tell you guys this...

http://imgur.com/VojGdpD

It's in our DNA at this juncture.
I mean these guys live together... they were bound to crossover.
Now I AM hoping we do get individual endings for each series...

But EMH has ALWAYS had half the information not on the main channel...

Again, I'm completely sympathetic to the grievances...

I'm just playin devil's advocate as I feel we don't have the full picture yet.


I can't agree more, and that connection web is masterful btw.

Really guys, it was inevitable, I mean they already had parts of their stories integrated into each other WAAAAY back like when Noah visited the EMH boys and it was kind of like a "one-off" thing, but just doing that DID IN FACT link their storylines. They knew what they were doing since way back then, they just didn't know how hard to push the crossover until now when it became kind of necessary to keep all the stories afloat and interesting.

Besides, some of the crossed-over series are going to end soon (MLA) so they're giving their two cents to the slender-verse and then they're going to die out after that, what's wrong with that?

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I really don't want to drag this thread further down a spiral of negativity & off-topicness, but I think that some things need to be said:

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Really guys, it was inevitable, I mean they already had parts of their stories integrated into each other WAAAAY back like when Noah visited the EMH boys and it was kind of like a "one-off" thing, but just doing that DID IN FACT link their storylines.


I said that it was a bad idea back then, but people told me that I was paranoid, that it was just a one-off that wasn't going to become some huge, complicated thing. This isn't coming out of nowhere, people were wary about crossovers even before I showed up.

And there's a big difference between a cameo & a bunch of confusing bullshit that I can't even tell what goes to what.

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They knew what they were doing since way back then, they just didn't know how hard to push the crossover until now when it became kind of necessary to keep all the stories afloat and interesting.


And now they're risking losing that.

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Besides, some of the crossed-over series are going to end soon (MLA) so they're giving their two cents to the slender-verse and then they're going to die out after that, what's wrong with that?


How do I politely say that I don't give a rat's ass about MLA?

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It might be irritating to some, having to watch all of them to know what's going on (do you really, though?)


Yes. Yes I do. I have had to go over to the Tribe Twelve channel & participate in the Tribe Twelve thread more than once in order to make any damn sense about this crossover. I have had to learn what the Collective are, especially as it pertains to Firebrand/Noah. I don't even like Tribe Twelve! And if they're going to keep building on this--& just TRY to tell me with a straight face that they're not--then I can count on having to make the choice between either dropping EMH or following more & more in order to keep up.

I suppose I should amend my previous statement. I don't think that this is enough to write off EMH because it's my favorite series. Otherwise, yeah, it might be time for some people to cut their losses. I hate to say that, but the truth is, this is why I dropped Keratin Garden, so it would be hypocritical of me to say that it's wrong now.

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But EMH has ALWAYS had half the information not on the main channel...


It was all part of the same series.

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....what about the Collective do you have to understand from the TT crossover? All you need to know is there are two journals and a symbol.
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Lithp
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drseussicide wrote:
....what about the Collective do you have to understand from the TT crossover? All you need to know is there are two journals and a symbol.


I'm sorry, but you did not think through what you just said at all. "There are 2 journals & a symbol" isn't enough information to even know what you're talking about, let alone understand the subplot.

And I didn't know that there were 2 journals anyway.

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They say in the crossover video that there are two journals.
You are the fool. What is so confusing to you about

The subplot so far is that HABIT knows more about the collective than Noah and was willing to share that info. Then Noah found his way into HABIT's dimension, got mindfucked, HABIT kicks him in the nuts, video over.

What information about tribe twelve do you need to understand that? It was more about EMH than TT anyway.
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The Severance Symbol had nothing to do with EMH. The whole crossover is about him freeing Firebrand. The plan that HABIT is trying to spoon feed to Noah makes no sense at all unless you know that Firebrand is part of a group controlled by Slenderman, & also future Noah, & that's why Noah would do what HABIT wants. As for the 2 journals, it really shouldn't be a surprise that I have difficulty remembering plot devices that I have absolutely no context for.

I didn't call you a fool. In fact, I think you're intelligent enough to realize that, objectively, "there are 2 books & a symbol" doesn't tell you anything without any other background information. Hence why I thought that you didn't think it through. Or maybe you're just jonesing for a fight.

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I'm honestly quite surprised at the sense of entitlement these crossovers is bringing out of a lot of EMH fans. This is not your series. If you don't like it, "drop it", rather than forcing others to listen to your complaining and bemusement. Pretty sure it's not going to make a difference.

Lithp wrote:
drseussicide wrote:
....what about the Collective do you have to understand from the TT crossover? All you need to know is there are two journals and a symbol.


I'm sorry, but you did not think through what you just said at all. "There are 2 journals & a symbol" isn't enough information to even know what you're talking about, let alone understand the subplot.

And I didn't know that there were 2 journals anyway.


Quite frankly, Lithp, I agree with drsseusicide, and think it was a little rude to accuse (him/her?) of "not thinking it through". Very little would have to be known about the collective to understand the TT/EMH crossover. HABIT explicitly tells Noah exactly what he wants him to know - there's a journal that protects its holder from slenderman; there's a symbol in TT, that symbol means severence, and if you put it on a knife and stab slenderman, slenderman loses control over you. Sounds pretty simple to me. The fact that HABIT probably used the symbol to free Firebrand serves only as an example, to support HABIT's information—it's really not relevant information. The conclusions you're drawing seem a little odd to me.

It's the same with the MLAnderson0 crossover; all the information Vinnie gives Shaun is what we need to further the plot. We don't necessarily need to know about this clock; just that there are certain objects that look like they're from here, but they're not. As a group of objects, they form a protective barrier around Slenderman. If one's not whole, the barrier has a hole in it. The clock is an example of one of these objects, as Vinnie explicitly states.

All EMH is really doing is using other characters involved with Slenderman to further their own lore surrounding him. The details of series they cross over with, so far, seem to be mostly irrelevant. I'm also pretty sure it means Slendy will be back before EMH is over.

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Hannartt wrote:
I'm honestly quite surprised at the sense of entitlement these crossovers is bringing out of a lot of EMH fans. This is not your series. If you don't like it, "drop it", rather than forcing others to listen to your complaining and bemusement. Pretty sure it's not going to make a difference.


Yeah, people think they're entitled to an opinion that differs from yours? Appalling.

Please never use this "defense" again.

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TheOperator wrote:
Hannartt wrote:
I'm honestly quite surprised at the sense of entitlement these crossovers is bringing out of a lot of EMH fans. This is not your series. If you don't like it, "drop it", rather than forcing others to listen to your complaining and bemusement. Pretty sure it's not going to make a difference.


Yeah, people think they're entitled to an opinion that differs from yours? Appalling.

Please never use this "defense" again.


That was not what I meant by "sense of entitlement", and I'm sorry you interpreted it that way. Nor was I "defending" anything in the part you quoted, but rather, verbalising my own opinion. Calm your farm.

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I can see where the frustration is coming from but a lot of it isn't warranted. I can't say much about the EMH/TT crossover because I do watch TT but for the EMH/MLA it was confusing as I don't really watch MLA. I had no idea what this "clock" or "hands" were and unless they had any direct bearing on the EMH storyline I had no incentive to find out. But I didn't feel like I was missing out on anything huge, Vinny was giving Shaun information relative to his predicament, nothing more. The second bunch of EMH/TT crossovers (Severance/Bridge to Nowhere) shouldn't bother EMH fans because they're not on the EMH channel, so it wouldn't be crucial to the story. The most I got from the MLA crossover for EMH fans was seeing the footage from Shaun's camera, as we can see some of the cameraman. Other than that I couldn't see any reason for a video of the crossover to be uploaded to the EMH channel. Look, at the end of the day any questions you have about the subjects raised in a crossover video can be explained by a 5-second search on a wiki page, or just ask someone.

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So instead of making a counter argument for every single thing you had to say about my comment LithP, I'm just going to point out that you seem pretty butthurt and you need to take it down a peg. drseussicide is not the type of person to be "jonesing for a fight", I think you just like to be right no matter what we are discussing. To be perfectly honest I believe the source of your anger is only coming from the pure fact that series have now crossed over. You're alright when you say you don't like it, but that doesn't mean the rest of us who watch probably every series on this board have to hate it as well. I'm sorry your attention span is so short that you would rather not watch the other quality series at all and just stay on one, because the ones you're missing out on are brilliant. Also, if you don't want to watch them then don't, just read the wiki for each series, all the information is there. Then you don't have to watch any videos. If you're dedicated enough to EMH then you'll read it, if you're not then see ya.

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Then don't. No one wants to argue with you in a negative or off-topic fashion, if you believe you're going to post something with those qualities why don't you just go ahead and hit the back button instead of submit post and add to your 1500+ post count.

As a side note, I personally don't see how anybody in their right mind could not like MLA, I guess I could understand TT but not MLA, that doesn't make much sense. Maybe if you're rating MLA by their recent videos it would be a bit confusing yes, but the series as a whole is brilliant.

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Lithp wrote:
How do I politely say that I don't give a rat's ass about MLA?



YouTube: Link


Let's all just continue in a civil manner, hey?

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Since controlling the topic is apparently a cross that I must bear, even when I'm not here & therefore can logically have no control over the thread being "uncivil," here are the subjects that were being discussed before I made the mistake of questioning the infallible logic of the crossover crowd:

1. People were trying to determine the timeframe of the entry.

2. I have a semi-related question: I'm still fairly new to the fact that HABIT has distortion. Look upon my poor observation skills, ye mighty, & despair. Does he just tint the screen purple, or is it any kind of distortion that has purple in it? Because some of that static looked purplish to me.

3. There was also some speculation that Michael was the guy who was bleeding out in the bathroom.

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Lithp wrote:
Since controlling the topic is apparently cross that I must bear, even when I'm not here & therefore can logically have no control over the thread being "uncivil," here are the subjects that were being discussed before I made the mistake of questioning the infallible logic of the crossover crowd:


How's the view from all the way up on that pedestal bud?

Lithp wrote:
1. People were trying to determine the timeframe of the entry.

2. I have a semi-related question: I'm still fairly new to the fact that HABIT has distortion. Look upon my poor observation skills, ye mighty, & despair. Does he just tint the screen purple, or is it any kind of distortion that has purple in it? Because some of that static looked purplish to me.

3. There was also some speculation that Michael was the guy who was bleeding out in the bathroom.


1. I believe the most recent entry was obviously after the time Noah visited, due to HABIT saying "We're going to be having guests", but as for the exact time I believe we've come to a point in all series where time is starting to become a bit wibbly-wobbly so to speak so it's really hard to say.

2. Purple distortion counts too, anything which is interfering with a crisp clear picture that is also purple is most likely HABIT. If it's regular distortion it's most likely tall dark and slender.

3. It could honestly be now that the crossover is set. We'll just have to see if MLA does in fact follow through with that, or it could end up being someone else entirely. The series do tend to surprise us sometimes.

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