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EverymanHYBRID 2014
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Dacad
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 		I've only relatively recently began watching Tribe Twelve and Everyman Hybrid, but I was under the impression that the whole "we don't exist" thing was more along the lines of Bioshock. I'm pretty sure everyone knows what I'm talking about, but basically, the protagonist thinks he grew up on a farm, but in reality he was engineered in the same city that he crash landed in and all of his memories of his life had been planted inside his skull. So, the world of Everyman Hybrid is real. As Vinny said, the house is real. And even Vinny, Evan, and Jeff are real. But their "normal" lives that they had before they started making a fitness series? As real as Jack's farm.

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I understand that - that's why I put the word "main" in quotes. In the past, it felt like there was a somewhat balanced dynamic between Slendy, HABIT, and the Rake, each bringing something unique to the table. That's why it's disconcerting to see only one part of the unholy triad for quite a while. You said yourself that HABIT and the Rake are more immediate threats - but since when has the Rake shown up? He's been out of the picture for a while now. (Unless the speculation that HABIT's cameraman is the rake is correct).


Immediate threat as in actually threatening to the boy's friends, family, and personal safety. The stick-in-the-mud just...stands there watching the majority of the time. But really, the Rake and Slendy have never been the "main" (and I use that word loosely) antagonist. It's been HABIT. We've all watched Evan's transformation throughout all the videos, the viewers have been recipients of information directly from HABIT to make us question the boys. He's been behind the scenes working his little plan, biding his time. Now he's "close". He can't let Vinny screw anything up, he got Jeff out of the way, all for whtever his big plan might be.

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I may have missed something - where exactly did Vinny say that was not meant to be taken at face value?


My bad. I poorly worded that sentence. I meant to say that Vinny's statement of "We are fiction." is not to be taken literally, not that Vin tells us to not take it that way. The Bioshock parallel is more than sensical, considering how many times we see Evan wearing a bioshock shirt.


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Oh, don't go pulling the dismissive "entitlement" card. It's like the whole "If you didn't like the movie, why don't you make a better one?" argument. There's open discussion in this thread for fans to share their views. I've acknowledged in a previous post that they've got lives, schedules, and jobs of their own, and I respect that. This does not exempt them from (constructive) criticism from their fans and viewers.


*actually lol'ing* I didn't say anything close to that, I've echoed exactly what I've seen the creators state. They are busy, they have lives, get over it, it's that simple. I'm not shaming you, and you're the one who's coming off as entitled. You're not offering constructive criticism, you're bitching about stuff you don't like on a forum. Just like me. End of story.

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HABIT is an excellent psychopath, but it's been almost nothing but HABIT for quite a while.

Congratulations, you now are starting to get "the point". HABIT is the driving force. He pushes the boys forward and holds them back when it's appropriate. Through the whole series.

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Woah, calm down, Noah Maxwell. The mystery doesn't bug me - it's part of what makes the series interesting. What bothers me and others here is recent progression. What answers/clues have we gotten recently? HABIT shed more light for Noah (regarding the TT symbol), than for Vinny (the ambiguous "fiction" idea). For the past year and a half, it looks like Vinny has been under some sort of house-arrest.


Dude, do you realise how played out the whole "Noah swears a lot" thing is? And this is just a disguised version of "I want more videos more often" and I won't play that game. Boo-hoo.


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Actually, I think that I'll keep watching EMH, and continue to have my own opinions as I enjoy the overall series, thank you very much. I don't deny that we don't know where the plot is progressing. However, I never said that the creators don't know where to go - I said "it doesn't feel like" they know where the series is going. I've stuck with this series for a while, and even though I have my criticisms of how it has been lately, I'd like to see it through to the end.

There's really no need to be uncivil. I understand that there are fans and fanboys on here (I'm sure you know the difference), but there's no reason to be so rude. Rolling Eyes


Your criticisms are brought up without context and relevance. There's plenty fuckin' wrong with the series and I'd be glad to talk about that till the cows come home but "Not as many videos as I WANT", and "Gosh they never explain ANYTHING" are not valid or constructive criticisms. It's whining and it's super fucking annoying.
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SilentMedusa
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 		*raises hand* So... how long do we need to wait for answers before we can complain about not getting any?

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 		It's more the tone taken while asking for answers rather than the actual question itself.

I've invested a fair amount of personal time and brainpower into these mysteries. That's the fun for me. I'm certainly frustrated about the lack of answers but that just makes me watch the videos over and over dissecting as much as I understand.

That's what makes me a fan of EMH. The fact that the mystery is still so strong after all this time, I'm still aching to figure it all out and will pour over the information on the wiki until my eyes bleed.

I accept that's not for everyone. But it's really frustrating to come across complaints that seem to directly contradict the intended point of the series. To make you wonder.
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 		I have a question too...seriously, why does it seem that every major slenderverse series just slowed down, around the exact same time? Like, compare the upload rate of the top four (Marble Hornets is over, so it doesn't count), of let's say...2013, and compare it to 2011 or 2012.

Isn't a little unusual that they all slowed down to a trickle around the same period of time? Why is this?

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 		To turn all of us into junkies at the same time? That's a good question though.

Maybe it's part of the blah blah school schedule thing. Maybe they feel like the more time they take to produce a video increases the quality of it, to avoid the dreaded "filler"
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(which is highly debatable, Halloween Hotel is one of my favourite TT entries and it was essentially filler, even according to Adam)

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drseussicide wrote:
Immediate threat as in actually threatening to the boy's friends, family, and personal safety. The stick-in-the-mud just...stands there watching the majority of the time. But really, the Rake and Slendy have never been the "main" (and I use that word loosely) antagonist. It's been HABIT. We've all watched Evan's transformation throughout all the videos, the viewers have been recipients of information directly from HABIT to make us question the boys. He's been behind the scenes working his little plan, biding his time. Now he's "close". He can't let Vinny screw anything up, he got Jeff out of the way, all for whtever his big plan might be.


That's a good point, and we're looking forward to that.

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My bad. I poorly worded that sentence. I meant to say that Vinny's statement of "We are fiction." is not to be taken literally, not that Vin tells us to not take it that way. The Bioshock parallel is more than sensical, considering how many times we see Evan wearing a bioshock shirt.


Thank you for the clarification. This gives me more reason to go back and replay the original Bioshock after Burial at Sea. Also, don't forget about the time Nick was playing Bioshock in 'OUTSIDE HELP'.

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*actually lol'ing* I didn't say anything close to that, I've echoed exactly what I've seen the creators state. They are busy, they have lives, get over it, it's that simple. I'm not shaming you, and you're the one who's coming off as entitled. You're not offering constructive criticism, you're bitching about stuff you don't like on a forum. Just like me. End of story.


Well, it seems like there has been some mis-communication. I'm not saying or implying that I'm 'entitled' to anything, with the exception of discussing discussing different aspects of the series. While my previous criticism might not have been construed as being as constructive as I would have liked, I wouldn't say that I'm b@#$%ing about stuff I don't like on a forum. I'm explaining myself, and not going out of my way to harass newer members of the site in what should be a civil discussion.

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Dude, do you realise how played out the whole "Noah swears a lot" thing is? And this is just a disguised version of "I want more videos more often" and I won't play that game. Boo-hoo.


It's a joke - there's no need to get worked up over it. (If you really want to see Noah swearing a lot, type in TribeF@#$ingTwelve on Youtube). And you don't need to cry - nobody's playing "that game," as nobody said anything along the lines of "I want more videos more often". You're putting words in my mouth, and you have no evidence to back up your accusation. I'm eager to see what happened after the last EMH, just like most other users here.

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Your criticisms are brought up without context and relevance. There's plenty fuckin' wrong with the series and I'd be glad to talk about that till the cows come home but "Not as many videos as I WANT", and "Gosh they never explain ANYTHING" are not valid or constructive criticisms. It's whining and it's super fucking annoying.


I'm talking about EMH in the current EMH thread, and I'm referring back to the videos when I type up my explanations - I'm not bringing criticisms up "without context and relevance". As for "Not as many videos as I WANT," and "Gosh they never explain ANYTHING" ...have you been reading my posts? I didn't say anything like: "Not as many videos as I WANT". I didn't say that they never explain ANYTHING - I already mentioned that HABIT has dropped Vinny hints, and then there's the whole matter of how the MLA clock plays into Slendy's vulnerability. As for 'whining,' you might want to read over your last post directed towards me.

Look, I read over my first post again, and I apologize if my tone seemed to be inappropriate for this discussion. I just wanted to find a good board where I could discuss the mythos with other fans, as most of the people in my circle of friends are typically more interested in sci-fi stuff, and niche genres.

I'm going to end this by bringing the discussion back to what is topical.
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I have a question too...seriously, why does it seem that every major slenderverse series just slowed down, around the exact same time? Like, compare the upload rate of the top four (Marble Hornets is over, so it doesn't count), of let's say...2013, and compare it to 2011 or 2012.

Isn't a little unusual that they all slowed down to a trickle around the same period of time? Why is this?


I mentioned elsewhere that DH is tied to TT, which is tied to EMH, which is in turn tied to MLA (through crossovers). This most likely makes the writing process more complicated. Also, seeing as how these four left off in their last entries, I wouldn't be surprised if certain crossovers are "necessary" to resolve the situations. The EMH and DH crews are both in New Jersey - although there are ups and downs to crossovers, I have my fingers crossed for this particular one.

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 		I've been under the impression that there is going to be something big coming. As in, a large collaboration between EMH, Tribe Twelve, and MLAndersen0 (also Dark Harvest, but I've never watched it, is it any good?). HABIT has established himself pretty well in the TT and MLAndersen0 universes as a serious villain.

But I don't think Tribe Twelve is ready for that. They still have a number of plotlines to take care of, such as opening Milo's journal, getting Sebastian's journal (HABIT said it is literally all that will keep Noah alive), finding Mary Asher's safe, and dealing with the Observer. I know why Tribe Twelve slowed down (rl issues with the creator), and I'm wondering if the other series are waiting for Tribe Twelve to be ready for the big one.

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Dacad wrote:
I've been under the impression that there is going to be something big coming. As in, a large collaboration between EMH, Tribe Twelve, and MLAndersen0 (also Dark Harvest, but I've never watched it, is it any good?). HABIT has established himself pretty well in the TT and MLAndersen0 universes as a serious villain.

But I don't think Tribe Twelve is ready for that. They still have a number of plotlines to take care of, such as opening Milo's journal, getting Sebastian's journal (HABIT said it is literally all that will keep Noah alive), finding Mary Asher's safe, and dealing with the Observer. I know why Tribe Twelve slowed down (rl issues with the creator), and I'm wondering if the other series are waiting for Tribe Twelve to be ready for the big one.


DH is great (my personal opinion). TT has fantastic VFX, EMH is known for its characters, and DH is known for ...well, you can find out Wink. But if you're watching the other three, I would definitely start watching DarkHarvest.

At this point, it's not unlikely that the other series are planning on doing some big team-up. EMH and DH had a cameo crossover, but nothing truly major so far. If that changes, you'll want to be caught up with DH so you can be in the loop, and so nothing will be spoiled for you when DH comes in with their plot.

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But I don't think Tribe Twelve is ready for that. They still have a number of plotlines to take care of, such as opening Milo's journal, getting Sebastian's journal (HABIT said it is literally all that will keep Noah alive), finding Mary Asher's safe, and dealing with the Observer. I know why Tribe Twelve slowed down (rl issues with the creator), and I'm wondering if the other series are waiting for Tribe Twelve to be ready for the big one.


True. It feels like to me Tribe Twelve has a lot of ways to go--and unlike Marble Hornets, I think Adam's gonna wrap up the series's questions very nicely at the end. We haven't seen the Observer for awhile too, mainly because Noah's under Firebrand's protection (come to think of it, the mood's changed a bit too--now we have to deal with the paranoia of SAFETY rather than the paranoia of DANGER).

BTW what, drsuess, why does Adam consider Halloween Hotel filler?

BUUUUUUUUUUUUUTTTTTTTTTTTT...this is an EMH thread, So:'



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To turn all of us into junkies at the same time? That's a good question though.


I doubt that's true. Maybe it's something with the creator's condition among all internet shows and comics: they run out of steam. After a year or two, the supposedly-free schedules flip around and go against them. Things don't go to plan. People drop out. Equipment breaks (we know EMH suffered from this!). Plus, creators put more effort into their work and it takes longer. And sometimes, they run out of motivation--because, let's face it: we fans can get a little cranky sometimes....

There's only one series I can think of that uploads regularly, on an actual schedule: MHunter0012. It's good but isn't as good as the big four (yet), but I love how it comes in 12-episode seasons, each three or less months apart, and uploads on every Sunday. Why? Because the creator actually bothers to finish filming a season first.

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 		Oh I know, I was joking. I guess I come off a bit strong though so it's fair if you couldn't tell.
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 		Sorry, I take everything literally Confused

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 		The ultimate mystery: will there be another video in my lifetime?

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TheOperator wrote:
The ultimate mystery: will there be another video in my lifetime?


Given that it's school time right now and midterms (well at least for me) are like a week away, I can see why there haven't been anything recent.

BUT overall it's been like [6 months to 1 1/2 year = 1 or maybe 2 videos.]

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