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knifeman
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 		Ok, I got another PM which kind of helps to answer the question on who the UCM/UGM/UHM people were. I believe that UCM is a man named Conway Marshall. Here's the PM:

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Re:Please read
Ignorant fools
I was there all along



_U_ C
M




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOvMAeEk8FA


The link takes you to an entirely different channel, called "Conway Marshal: Exposing the truth of the M.E.E.C." The Monster Extraction Extermination Control.

They are apparently a government organization based on killing monsters with other monsters, and destroying the town/city they were based in (and the people too). One of the cities mentioned in one of the videos was New Comshine, which is the suspected location of Hero...interesting.

I don't know how relevant the channel is. There hasn't been an upload in 5 months. I'll try messaging that channel, I guess.

UGM and UHM are probably members of the same organization. This is all very confusing.
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knifeman wrote:
So there was originally another video on the channel called "128," but it became unlisted. Thought it was worth posting. Just so you know, this came in between Branches and Just a Mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hGdEJiu5LU

Also, this is why I keep referencing a hint at another entity, other than the descriptions and occurrences in Fox and Branches.


I didn't realize that had become unlisted. Hmm... I wonder the reason why?


Now that I look back at it, I think that "Up she rises" is far more important than we first thought. Not only does it establish the goal of at least one of the mysterious people in control of the channel, but it also mentions how Hero went with his brother to talk to the park groundskeeper. Not only does this cause the video "Alex" to make even less sense, but it also makes me wonder why Hero keeps avoiding the topic of his brother...

EDIT: Would those of you able to message the account mind including the PMs you send? It might help the responses make more sense.

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 		For starters, the PM's didn't make too much sense on their own...here are the ones I sent in order from the first one he sent me:

Response to first (UGM):
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Re:Please read
Oh God, I am really sorry for sending Hero the other message...please don't track me down?

Oh, and uh, I am not unsubbing. I won't help Hero as much, but you can expect me to offer advice still. Screw you, _U_ .G
M. I won't let you get to me.


Response to second/third (UCM):
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Why is the linked video deleted? What was here before you deleted it? Explain why, if you want me to "let them know," you have given me a deleted video here, and a very impartial video in the other message. Are you (U_.C_M I guess?) different from U_.G_M? You surely seem to have a different outlook on what you want us to do.


Response to fourth (IAMALEX):
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You are Hero? Hero, what happened to you? You don't sound well. And how can you be an only child? (I saw Not a Mark) We hear your brother in Up She Rises!

And what on earth were you doing in Not a Mark. That red pen or whatever...it doesn't make a mark right away. It kind of shows up after a while.


Response to fifth (revealed his real name, unsigned):
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Re:Please read
Oh...my God. I...have no words. But one more thing...who's adopting him? And more importantly, how did his mother die?

Why is Hero making up people with his birth names? Why does he go by Michael sometimes? And if you are Alex, how do you seem to have a different conscience than Hero? Have you been making the descriptions? Who are UGM and UCM? Was there a significance of blood being on Hero's hand in Alex? Are you the same Alex that was in that video? How would that even be possible? There is still so much to be known!

While 2222... doesn't exactly give answers to the tree man or the other entity, or Hero's brother, it does offer valuable information. Thank you, Alex (if I've added things up correctly, that is you, correct?).

Surely, you must know more though...I mean, at least who adopted him, right?


Response to sixth (UHM):
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Well thanks for confirming about him making his friends up, I guess.

Uh, and another question, what do the U, .g/.c/.h, and then M stand for in some of the PM's? Is the same person sending all of these messages, or are UGM, UCM, and UHM different people? And what about the ones with no signature?


And response to seventh (8th response awaiting, UCM, and link to Conway Marshall's channel):
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Re:Please read
If you are Conway Marshall, who is UGM, and who is UHM? How do you know Hero? Is he seeing a nightmare?


And a new video...

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Hero realizes what we have learned: New Comshine isn't real. Alex, Detroit, Wess, they aren't real. His brother never even existed, though we have audio proof he did.




YouTube: Link

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And we know who UGM is now...M is obviously for Marshall. G for Gail, C for Conway...H for Hero? My guess at least. Although Hero is not as convoluted as what UHM sent me.


So that was a lot of information. This is becoming a very in-depth series.
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 		Here is the description from Wess:

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On this new episode, Hero realizes everything is a lie, even himself, myself, and them. What isn't a lie? Are you a lie? Does anything truly exist? Find out in the shocking final video of season 1, next week! or maybe not next week, it depends when Hero finds the book. I can only assume he will find it next week, maybe.


End of season 1? wow, it's only been two weeks. I wonder if that is hint to the next plot line or something? I somehow doubt that the next video will be the finale of season 1. It just seems too short winded.
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MC_Loki wrote:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):

- Writing/plot/pacing is whack as hell. Family/occult conspiracy with Slendy as the prop. Yeah, we haven't seen *THIS* before. Eight videos in the span of a week, with a few secret vids thrown in for good measure leaves everything thin, rushed, and completely uninteresting.


knifeman wrote:

End of season 1? wow, it's only been two weeks. I wonder if that is hint to the next plot line or something? I somehow doubt that the next video will be the finale of season 1. It just seems too short winded.


I rest my case.
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MC_Loki wrote:
MC_Loki wrote:
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- Writing/plot/pacing is whack as hell. Family/occult conspiracy with Slendy as the prop. Yeah, we haven't seen *THIS* before. Eight videos in the span of a week, with a few secret vids thrown in for good measure leaves everything thin, rushed, and completely uninteresting.


knifeman wrote:

End of season 1? wow, it's only been two weeks. I wonder if that is hint to the next plot line or something? I somehow doubt that the next video will be the finale of season 1. It just seems too short winded.


I rest my case.


Ok, so you rest your case that the pacing is weird. Why is that bad? I binge watch most things anyways, and don't like waiting a month (or more, EMH) for something which was apparently put together over a month ago (Severance PT 2 was supposedly compiled right after New Years?). Things can happen over the course of a few days rather than a year. MH could have been done by now if it wasn't so dragged out. If you think THAT is good pacing, I don't know what to say.

You do NOT rest your case that this is unoriginal to a slenderseries

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The pacing itself makes it original, and the ideas behind it are too. I mean, his entire world doesn't exist, that is something you couldn't tell from the beginning of the series. More importantly...ONE OF HIS RELATIVES WAS A FUCKING MONSTER HUNTER, THAT IS AWESOME, THERE IS A SECRET ORGANIZATION THAT CAPTURED GOD. That is original, you see!?


Also, the above makes it interesting to me as well. I mean that isn't a legitimate complaint, whether or not it is interesting to you is an opinion.

So no, you don't really rest your case. I'm sorry this isn't identical to every other "upload a month," slender ARG...I have a feeling that was the creator's point.
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 		I'm assuming anyone who is subscribed or commented got this PM:

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We Warned You
Seasons. It's not the weather we are talking about. Psychological seasons occur when the Input, in this case Hero, becomes aware that we are tampering with memories. By the time he finds his journal, the book Narrator mentioned in "Wess", blank, his descent into psychological season II will have begun. Know this, he is not going mad, in fact, his memories were quite real at some point, but it is our job as M.E.E.C Movingmen to keep his memories from returning. While it may seem really trivial, it's more important than you think. If the Input possess memories the Output is not meant to have, the existence of the Unreal Ones becomes more of a paradox then planned, and it will open a rift for more Nightmares then just the "treeman".

There is a tempest looming in the horizon of Hero's future, and you, all of you commenters and viewers have given it nourishment. We warned you, and now they will come, sooner than expected.

_U_
M
E Godfrey L. Pittman
E
_C_


I guess that means that "season," 2 is underway. My prediction is that each real season is made up of several psychological "seasons," as mentioned. Uploads are probably going to get less random, because most series seem to start out with a bunch of uploads. I don't know what season two means for Hero though.

I've also come to realize that almost anyone from the MEEC can upload on his channel, and I don't think their names have much to do with anything, other than just their identities. The Alex PM was weird, but none of the other senders acted in a certain way.

Also, I feel like I kind of spammed the thread with the PM's I sent back and forth. I still plan on PM'ing this sender back to try and get more info, but if you want me to put five PM's in one post or something so I don't spam as much, I'd like to know.

If this is a slenderseries...well we've only seen a fake one, and season one is almost over. I'm calling it isn't one, or we see Mr. Tall in the finale of "season," one.
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 		I have been having a conversation over PM with Conway Marshal. It holds quite a lot of information. I'll put it in spoilers, because it is quite spoilery. Instead of making a bunch of posts, I'll just edit this one over and over.

2/3/14
My response to "We warned you."
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A few things...

What will happen to Hero's psyche in his second psychological season? Will he have a different personality? Will he forget more things? Will he invent more unreal things?

What is the output? Is that what Hero is supposed to become?

Why were other people allowed to give me answers, if it would hurt Hero? Was it different people?

How dangerous is a nightmare, on a universal scale? (Nightmare vs. Black hole, which is more threatening?)

I want this answer most: How is Hero alive, if New Comshine was destroyed, or wiped out, or whatever it is that happens when you go from town to town, murdering the people there? Is Hero himself (not his world) not completely real?

And how come we could see Hero's brother in the Not a Mark video?

Finally, how can I get in contact with Conway Marshal? I want to know if he has answers, or personally knows (knew? Knows him as a subject?) Hero.


2/4/14
Conway Marshal's response:
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Re:We Warned You
Well since you insist on knowing, and it doesn't look like we can contain anything with these videos circulating, I will tell.

I wager that in your universe or timeline, New Comshine does not exist. From what I have been briefed on, the majority if not all outside influences, you people, exist in a 'verse consisting of a whole different history. Here, let me blow your mind a second, I'm currently typing this message in Geo-America's 51st state, New Comshine. So yeah, our tampering with memories and histories is what makes up your 'verse. Now, because what we do is based in the past, while ourselves are based in its future, things get screwed up. Take Hero for example. This guy was born back in '95 to a regular family, one mom, dad, brother. The problem here is that when [DATA RELAY FAIL] escaped into his happy little timeline, we had to go about screwing up memories to keep people who encountered it from posting on the internet (which if you didn't know remains constant throughout the 'verses and I have no idea why). So every, I don't know, one in a million people have trouble adjusting to our little brain tinkers, and that one happens to be Hero. See, our tinkering is kind of working, but not really, he is mostly aware stuff is not as it should be, with his brother not existing when he really did before all of this.

(I'll continue in a new message)

_U_. C
M


My response back:
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Re:We Warned You
Are you planning on finishing this, or should I pose another question?


His response to this:
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Re:We Warned You
So basically to summarize all of the last message, we mucked up, Hero didn't lose all his memories properly, and to make it worse, he's keeping a video log on a site we have no control of aside from sending messages.

Now, as for nightmares. I covered this a few months ago I believe on my channel. They are literal nightmares made flesh through the creativity of the entity we captured back between dimensions at the dawn of creation. The entity, we believe, is not God, but it basically fits the description of one; Large formless cloud of power creating things and sleeping. Well anyway, this thing has been in a state of dream ever since we captured it, and it's doing exactly what you would think a god would do. It's creating things, even in sleep, but what it is creating is directly related to its dreams. Now the idiot of our organization, Godfrey, the asshole that basically hates all of you people, was the guy who actually contained the god entity, and his methods were less than appropriate. Even I am not privileged to how he was able to contain it, but whatever way he used gave this thing an ungodly fear of humans.
What does it create you ask? Oh, well imagine this. You are an ancient explorer and you just encountered a native of Africa (hopefully that place still exists for y'all) for the first time. The native attacks like five of your buddies and injures you and you run off back to your explorer boat. That night you have a frightening dream about it all. How do you see the native? Well, it is a human, but different then any you have seen (whites). Your brain recalls seeing a demonic, dark, yellow-eyed, human-like thing savagely attacking your friends, tearing their throats out, eating 'em etc. So basically your brain takes this scary thing you just encountered, and screws with it a bit to make it even more frightening. It exaggerates the fear you encountered.
So the nightmares, they are human-like, yes, but they are not humans. This thing, this god, is creating feral, savage, humanoid monsters. We aptly call them "Nightmares".

THE CATCH HERE IS;
Hero is not dealing with a humanoid nightmare. We believe from classification, he is dealing with a what closely resembles a shapeshifter, or skinwalker. Having an originally formless nightmare escape into reality is not a good thing at first, because it is basically invisible. What occurred was the first appearance the nightmare formed to was a tree, and thus, begins the Tree Man Hero has encountered nearly every time he has gone outside and filmed (Look closely if you do not see it, because it's there). Now, the Tree Man is going to realize being a tree sucks, and odds are it will soon, probably in a day or maybe it has already, shift into something more sentient, ie. a human or an animal. It's appearance though, will not be perfect, it'll probably be missing a face or some other part humans usually have. When that happens, it's going to go after ones with memories that were unaffected by our tampering and we have no idea why. So Hero is basically at risk for being killed by this thing. Why do we care? Well, /we/ don't, but I do.



Hero Marshal is my son, though not in this 'verse. He died shortly after birth in my timeline. So when I found out my AU wife had given birth to a living child, who had grown up, you can kind of see why I need to save him. If I can rescue him before the M.E.E.C has captured the nightmare, and eliminated this state from existence, then I can hopefully become the father I wanted all along.
This nightmare is not very dangerous, but I pray for Hero's sanity. Psychological Season 2 is when our little brain tinkers clearly end up not working and the input (Hero) realizes that memories are changing. It's not good.
I'll answer a few more questions if you have any.

_U_.C
M


And my response:
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Wow, you are actually informative, unlike those other cryptic assholes.

So in another timeline, Hero's brother DOES exist, but not in the one he lives in right now? How does that explain how we've seen his brother on camera after he supposedly went missing?

Is the treeman a tree that can actually move, or is it just a tree. If it is just a tree, is that the one Hero was stuck in in Branches?

How is Hero uploading into my timeline? How are you talking to me even? Does the internet span every timeline?

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 		And here is the new video:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4IP42R149E[/youtube]
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 		Here is the video in the youtube format. Coincidentally, this is the same on Conway sent me in the PM. I guess it was listed for some time.



YouTube: Link

And an even newer one



YouTube: Link

Description:

Quote:
On this brand new, unplanned episode of The Mystery of the Man Tree or whatever, Hero's call with Conway is cut short by a power outage. While investigating, he finds the cause of the outage, and we find that there is no Tree Man anymore. If you ask me, I'd say it's like a Skin Man now, but all men have skin so I don't know what to call it, they don't pay me enough to make names. Anyway, I'm uploading this because we don't know where Hero is. In case you were confused, I am the Narrator, a witty smartass that was paid a good sum to screw with descriptions on Hero's videos, and it's a great job. You wish you had my job, but you don't, because I have my job. Ha ha.

I hope he finds that book though because it has journal entries and proof of everything's existence and it would be really helpful in aiding him in not going crazy. I guess we'll have to wait until... NEXT EPISODE (if there is one)


As you could kind of figure from my conversation with Conway (who Hero is calling here, coincidentally), the Treeman realized being a tree sucked, and became "skinman." Probably more mobile, and more dangerous now.[/youtube]
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 		really good
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i really like this series

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I'm assuming anyone who is subscribed or commented got this PM:


I didn't, since I haven't been able to link YouTube with a Google+ account yet. I might try again for this series, though.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
So let me get this straight... Some kind of Nightmare escaped to Hero's universe, and the M.E.E.C. are messing with the memories of everyone in that universe in order to prevent them from remember that specific Nightmare.

Only now, another Nightmare has entered Hero's universe, and this one is threatening Hero. The M.E.E.C. doesn't really care, but Conway does. Conway wants to somehow rescue Hero before the M.E.E.C. destroys Hero's entire town, like they've done before when other Nightmares have surfaced.

Is that about right?


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 		That is sort of right. It isn't really universes, it's timelines. And two other important things:

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These aren't just nightmares, these are nightmares of a being as powerful, and fitting all descriptions of a God that are materialized. And the treeman is only one. Secondly, the nightmare has always been targeting Hero, but only recently it has transformed itself from a tree-like entity to something resembling a man. It just got a lot more dangerous according to Conway. Also, The M.E.E.C are trying to wipe Hero's timeline out, essentially, so the nightmare dies with him. Conway wants to save him, because Hero is his alternate timeline son.

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 		New video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY7j9LnMM9w

Quote:
Update 2/9/14

We found the camera, no sign of Hero though. Will keep looking, hired the best tracker of my division to find him. The footage doesn't seem to be in order, or is missing a few clips. It's not like he could be moved from the closet and into a tree in broad daylight in a matter of seconds, right?

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Quite odd that the skinman teleported him to the same tree he was in during Branches. This series is very reminiscent of ICANSEETHEGIANT in that a few locations are very important (I guess the basement and the attic in ICANSEETHEGIANT are like the tree here, where Mitch/Hero is constantly taken there).

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