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Juyon
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 		Well, personally i think that Jay wasn't himself too... and this make the events of 80 even more tragic.

For the missing phone call, what if the other side of the tunel was just isolated from the rest ? So Tim would get the call the instant he cross it. That made me think about the :Leave now ! and while rewatching Marble hornet with my brother, i remarked it was from the phone call Alex made when Jay decided to go in the forest while waiting for him. As far as i know, Jay never got this message while he was looking at the chimney...

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Wondertje
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Juyon wrote:
Well, personally i think that Jay wasn't himself too... and this make the events of 80 even more tragic.

For the missing phone call, what if the other side of the tunel was just isolated from the rest ? So Tim would get the call the instant he cross it. That made me think about the :Leave now ! and while rewatching Marble hornet with my brother, i remarked it was from the phone call Alex made when Jay decided to go in the forest while waiting for him. As far as i know, Jay never got this message while he was looking at the chimney...


I was thinking the same at first when I heard the phone call, but after going back to check the two phone calls don't match up. In the first phone call (Entry #42) Alex says "Get out here. Now!" whereas in the latest phone call he says "Leave. Now!". So I don't think it's the same phone call.

I also don't believe that Jay was on the "wrong side of the tunnel" so to speak (the "slendy side") in Entry #42, but that TO was just out and about in the park strolling around.

The idea of Tim getting the phone call as soon as he crosses the tunnel is quite interesting though - I can see that happening, even if the events of #42 isn't related to that.

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DarKWolF90
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Juyon wrote:
Well, personally i think that Jay wasn't himself too... and this make the events of 80 even more tragic.

For the missing phone call, what if the other side of the tunel was just isolated from the rest ? So Tim would get the call the instant he cross it. That made me think about the :Leave now ! and while rewatching Marble hornet with my brother, i remarked it was from the phone call Alex made when Jay decided to go in the forest while waiting for him. As far as i know, Jay never got this message while he was looking at the chimney...


FFS This has already been addressed. The phonecall GOT THROUGH, it went STRAIGHT INTO VOICEMAIL. That means the phonecall actually soared from Jay's Phone into Tim's at his place. It cannot be "Stuck" on the other side of the tunnel.

Plus if the "other side" was isolated, the shack wouldn't be there.... The shack got teleported/shifted there by TO.

I thought 18 pages of this made this pretty clear.

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 		Easy explanation, Tim doesn't remember the phone call/voicemail...

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 		how did Tim know to go to the trunk for the laptop? it seemed like he was very animal-like, sort of going into Masky mode, so why did he go for the trunk? i thought he was going to get his mask at first, but then when he pulled out the computer, i was kind of confused.

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DarKWolF90 wrote:
Juyon wrote:
Well, personally i think that Jay wasn't himself too... and this make the events of 80 even more tragic.

For the missing phone call, what if the other side of the tunel was just isolated from the rest ? So Tim would get the call the instant he cross it. That made me think about the :Leave now ! and while rewatching Marble hornet with my brother, i remarked it was from the phone call Alex made when Jay decided to go in the forest while waiting for him. As far as i know, Jay never got this message while he was looking at the chimney...


FFS This has already been addressed. The phonecall GOT THROUGH, it went STRAIGHT INTO VOICEMAIL. That means the phonecall actually soared from Jay's Phone into Tim's at his place. It cannot be "Stuck" on the other side of the tunnel.

Plus if the "other side" was isolated, the shack wouldn't be there.... The shack got teleported/shifted there by TO.

I thought 18 pages of this made this pretty clear.


For all we know it went straight to what sounded like Tim's voice mail. There's absolutely no proof that Tim in fact got the call apart from some nitpicking at technicalities - which might not even apply in the slenderverse for all we know. I don't really see a reason for you to get upset about it.

As for the isolation and the shack, what's to say TO can't control this isolation however he wants? Considering the fact that it's fairly established he can move through both time and space and apparently take things and other people with him - it's not really a stretch to think that the other side of the tunnel is in fact isolated in some way and that TO decides what can enter/leave and what can not.

@elford - He was searching through Jay's car, not his own (as far as I understood it), so he probably wasn't looking for any mask at first.

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SilentMedusa
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 		Apropos of nothing, I've noticed a weird little quirk Tim has: when he's testing something to see if it's locked, he doesn't just test the handle/knob/whatever. He very gingerly reaches out and rests his hand on for a long moment, and then carefully attempts to open whatever it is. Honestly, he looks like he suspects it's wired with explosives that'll detonate if jostled too hard.

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Wondertje wrote:
DarKWolF90 wrote:
Juyon wrote:
Well, personally i think that Jay wasn't himself too... and this make the events of 80 even more tragic.

For the missing phone call, what if the other side of the tunel was just isolated from the rest ? So Tim would get the call the instant he cross it. That made me think about the :Leave now ! and while rewatching Marble hornet with my brother, i remarked it was from the phone call Alex made when Jay decided to go in the forest while waiting for him. As far as i know, Jay never got this message while he was looking at the chimney...


FFS This has already been addressed. The phonecall GOT THROUGH, it went STRAIGHT INTO VOICEMAIL. That means the phonecall actually soared from Jay's Phone into Tim's at his place. It cannot be "Stuck" on the other side of the tunnel.

Plus if the "other side" was isolated, the shack wouldn't be there.... The shack got teleported/shifted there by TO.

I thought 18 pages of this made this pretty clear.


For all we know it went straight to what sounded like Tim's voice mail. There's absolutely no proof that Tim in fact got the call apart from some nitpicking at technicalities - which might not even apply in the slenderverse for all we know. I don't really see a reason for you to get upset about it.

As for the isolation and the shack, what's to say TO can't control this isolation however he wants? Considering the fact that it's fairly established he can move through both time and space and apparently take things and other people with him - it's not really a stretch to think that the other side of the tunnel is in fact isolated in some way and that TO decides what can enter/leave and what can not.

@elford - He was searching through Jay's car, not his own (as far as I understood it), so he probably wasn't looking for any mask at first.


So what?....... TO setup his own voice mail,imitated Tim voice on the greeting and magically routed the call to it? Seriously if that wasn't Tim's real voice mail what do you think it was?

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 		Did Tim know that Jay called him before this entry? That's what matters, not how the call went through. And we don't know if he did either way. Personally, I don't believe that he's lying because he doesn't have a motive to lie.
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Wondertje wrote:
So this is what I couldn't shake out of my head last night whilst trying to sleep: is it possible that Alex is in fact The Ark? In my theory now, I will make assumptions, and also in my text Ark = Alex, Hoody = Brian. And Hoody = TTA.

Like this:

We have our main evil entity (TO), however he can't physically hurt people on this planet/in this dimension/where we are currently at. Due to this, TO chooses a person to act as his Proxy pretty much. A person that he has control over, that does all of his physical hurting of the people around him/her. This proxy is also known as The Ark. At first when TO chooses his Proxy, the link is weak and he might not have total control, which is why he first stalks his chosen Proxy to put them at a mental state where it's easier to remain in control. This is where our story sort of starts.

Alex was stalked by TO for a very long time, during which his mental state deteriorated and TO was able to eventually make Alex his Proxy. Alex is now The Ark.

During the events that went down with Brian (this can be changed to Seth, Sarah, or anyone who this most likely happened to but I'm sticking with Brian for now), where Alex tried to get rid of him - Alex somehow revealed this to Brian before attempting to kill him. He might've said something in lines with "I'm sorry Brian, I need to do this. I can't help being the Ark, he made me" - or whatever you see fit. Thinking that Brian was going to die, that wasn't really important to keep secret. However, after all of this takes place, Brian somehow survives and goes underground in hiding. He might possibly also have gained insight on TO and possibly even knowledge of protection. He "becomes"/creates the youtube account TTA, and goes on a quest for Alex - which he now knows is the Ark and has to be taken care of. He disguises himself in the videos (as in, makes no real appearances and doesn't talk) so that Jay won't know who he is at this point, also Alex isn't supposed to know that he survived/escaped slendyverse (where I think he was indeed taken at first).

At some point his videos on TTA channel just aren't good enough to lead his quest forward and he decides to go out and get more involved. This is when Hoody is created to mask his true identity. Hoody goes around and films/takes pictures, picks up cameras, cuts Jay lose and so on - because he knows that he needs the help of Jay to find Alex. It could also have been Hoody who wrote the "Find Alex. Find The Ark." note, but wasn't intending for Jay to find it at that point, or even at all. Either way, it still sounded like Alex = The Ark, something only Hoody at this point would've known.

End of theory.

Note that I have intentionally left Tim/Masky out of this theory, because he complicates things quite a bit. Feel free to shoot a million holes in this theory, it was just a strange idea I couldn't shake last night.

EDIT: This is also suitable for the message towards the end of "Quadrant" which says "They didn't know how to leave." which I think is a reference to the rest of the characters being stuck in slenderverse. Only Brian and Tim (+their alternative personas) have ever gotten out. I believe that Tim/Masky and Brian/Hoody went through the exact same thing, however I think Hoody has control over his alternative persona, that it's more of a literal mask rather than something he'd turn into and not remember later.


I think this theory is plausible; however, if Hoody's identity is to remain hidden from Alex, then why was Alex was so disinterested when he saw Hoody face-to-face in Entry #68 ("Wipe that stupid smile off your face" and all that)?

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 		:/ TO didn't impersonate Tim. Simple explanation for dropped call is that the call went through, got past the voicemail part, and then the call dropped while Jay was leaving his message. If Tim's voicemail service is one of those shitty ones where you have to hit 1 to save the damn message after leaving it, that would explain why he never got the message. The fact that it went straight to voicemail could indicate the phone was turned off. In such cases, most phones do not register a missed call.

If we're going to be throwing around theories about dropped calls, at least fucking base it on some form of what is actually possible with cell phones. :V

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 		I still don't understand why Hoody hides his appearance. Alex knows who he is, and there's not a good reason to withhold his identity from Jay and Tim ( that is, if he's Brian or Seth; only future/alternate Jay would make sense). I think he just wants to maintain dramatic tension.
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The Happy Madman wrote:
I still don't understand why Hoody hides his appearance. Alex knows who he is, and there's not a good reason to withhold his identity from Jay and Tim ( that is, if he's Brian or Seth; only future/alternate Jay would make sense). I think he just wants to maintain dramatic tension.


I think it is more about "having no face" rather than explicit hiding his identity. Masky wore a mask too, and there are several allusions to "having no face" or "No Eyes" in earlier TTA videos, that is has been thought that "having no face" somehow protects you from slender influence (or the opposite of course: being under TO influence compells you to hide your face, to have no face anymore.)
So maybe he is attached to his Mask as Masky was to his, and as Jay was to his camera.

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Ascalondion wrote:
The Happy Madman wrote:
I still don't understand why Hoody hides his appearance. Alex knows who he is, and there's not a good reason to withhold his identity from Jay and Tim ( that is, if he's Brian or Seth; only future/alternate Jay would make sense). I think he just wants to maintain dramatic tension.


I think it is more about "having no face" rather than explicit hiding his identity. Masky wore a mask too, and there are several allusions to "having no face" or "No Eyes" in earlier TTA videos, that is has been thought that "having no face" somehow protects you from slender influence (or the opposite of course: being under TO influence compells you to hide your face, to have no face anymore.)
So maybe he is attached to his Mask as Masky was to his, and as Jay was to his camera.


I expect that it must be with the purpose of hiding from the Operator, rather than an effect that the Operator has on you. Otherwise, I would think that Alex would have worn a mask, and so far he hasn't. Only Tim and whoever's under that hood have worn masks.

My guess is still Brian, but to be fair I really don't have much of a reason. I'm fairly certain it isn't any of the girls, which leaves Brian, and Seth. Sure, it could be someone we haven't actually met yet (but why?). Or it could be some wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey version of Jay, but that makes me roll my eyes hard enough to stare at the inside of my skull whenever I hear it.
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 		Are we really considering that TO is impersonating people over the phone?? I mean it's possible, but it's too far fetched... even for Marble Hornets. Never before has TO even come close to doing such a specific thing... Nor has Marble Hornets ever applied such a concept in the series, why complicate things such at this crucial point in the story?

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