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Why did The Operator visit Tim as a child?
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The Happy Madman
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Why caused the Øperator stalk young Timmy? What causes it do do anything? We know next to nothing about its motives, so any theories are like grasping at straws.
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Jordan
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The Happy Madman wrote:
Why caused the Øperator stalk young Timmy? What causes it do do anything? We know next to nothing about its motives, so any theories are like grasping at straws.


While Troseph have said that it's very unlikely they will touch upon The Operator's origins, it is possible that we will get a sense of his genereal modus operadi and his motives, including why he visited Tim as a child.

I think it's worth discussing Smile

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This is not so much a "why did TO visit" so much as it is a theory that Jay, Tim, Alex, and Jessica(at least), all grew up together and may have even been in the same institution.

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Gante
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I've seen no indication that the Operator gives a rat's ass whether his victims are good people or bad. In fact, I question whether the concept of good or bad people is even comprehensible to him. All his Marble Hornets victims seem to have been more or less innocent until TO appeared. I don't see any sense of justice in him, twisted or otherwise.

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gennerx wrote:
Gante wrote:
Why all this belief that Tim is a bad person? We've only caught him out in one lie, and even Jay had to admit that his reason for it was sound. The one who calls Tim a liar is Totheark, and I have no idea why anybody takes Totherark's word for anything.


That depends. Who wrote "He's a Liar" and "Follow Me" on the wall in entry 60. When he followed the trail he didn't find totheark he ran into TO. I never said Tim was a bad person. He might not be. The question is does TO consider him a bad person. I did say his sense of justice was twisted.


Hoody was seen walking away from the room in which that was written, was pretty much the only one who could have left the folder down there and was obviously the one who took the photo included in the folder. If TO had written that on the wall (which doesn't exactly seem likely in the first place) why would he just chase after Jay after leading him down there? Why lead him to the place where that folder left by Hoody was? Jay didn't run into Hoody because Hoody only entered the tunnel in #58 and didn't stay down there the whole time until #60. TO simply didn't seem to want Jay to get his hands on that folder.

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How is that Herman guy not banned? Zarggg, you can't just ask one of the others to ban and link to his post history? For real.

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Wrong thread entirely, unless I missed something.

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Miller wrote:
the bigger question could be asked is, why did he come back to Tim? I mean Tim was institutionalized and had his pills and all, it all seemed to be going great for him until this "movie" came into place. What made the operator come back?!? Jetpack
Possibly having a camera pointed at Tim allowed TO to see where he was and come back to him, like what happened to Alex in Entry #26.

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TheJoker wrote:
Wrong thread entirely, unless I missed something.


Bottom of page 2 bro Wink

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Well Hoody isn't going to tell us now.
Guess Tim will make a confession at some point.

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Can I put a long-winded theory here?

First, I need to say that I believe OOG the angle they're going for is that this started with Tim, and will ultimately end with him. Since there seems to be a bit of a theme of things coming full circle.

Now, I know someone's going to say "what about #37?". To which I say, what about #37? First of all, do we have confirmation that that really was Alex Kralie and not some other little boy named Alex? Second, I firmly believe TTA edited TO into that video. See, TTA likes to "speak" in metaphors. So I took #37 to mean 'Alex is involved with TO and it's been going on longer than you realize', not that Alex had literally been dealing with TO since he was a child. Consider that three entries after this one people were openly questioning whether Alex had actually set Jay up to be attacked by TO.

Okay, the actual theory. In #82 there was some speculation over whether TO was causing Rosswood park to shift, or whether the park did it on its own. I think Rosswood exists in a multiverse. Rather like Silent Hill. In Silent Hill, there's the tourist town most people see, the Otherworld (run down, abandoned, filled with fog, and monsters created from the mind of the person viewing it), and the Dark world, (where the monsters are more numerous and more aggressive). I think the same kind of thing is happening with Rosswood.

Now, to Tim. I believe Tim was in Rosswood at least once before he was institutionalized. I also believed he probably had some mental or emotional problems already. During this visit (whether he ran away or was there on a family outing of some kind), he ended up in the wrong place at the wrong time. By which I mean he was in a part of the park that caused something in his mind to come to life. Why something like The Operator? I don't know. We have speculated that Tim might have been abused... Anyway, the park was a "your mind makes it real" zone, and that's what young Tim's mind conjured up. Because it came from his mind, it was attached to him, and followed him. Because it was something he didn't create on purpose, he had no control over it.

Now, this could be why TO does the things it does/had the abilities it seems to have. This thing is the embodiment of fear. Towers over you? Check. Unknowable? Check. Can attack from anywhere with no warning or hope of escape? Finds you no matter where you go? Can't get help because nobody else can see it and therefore they don't believe you? Ultimately hurts other people just because they're associated with you? You get my drift, I'm sure.

I'll even tie it to Alex. TO was always following Tim, even before Marble Hornets started. He just didn't know it. See, all the drugs and therapy changed him. He started to doubt he was seeing anything, and ultimately was convinced that he didn't. TO couldn't do much of anything, because Tim (its host/creator) wasn't reacting the way he was supposed to anymore. He didn't even acknowledge it. But it was still there. Alex saw it once when he was walking his dog (see entry #2). And he reacted. Moreover, he went looking for. So this thing did what it did best, what it was created to do, to a new victim. And then another, and another, and another, etc. And then Tim got snared into the mess again. And now he's at a disadvantage, because he doesn't think he's just imagining it this time. He believes. He believes it's real, and helpless against it. And since what he believes about it is what's true...

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That last post makes me wonder if The Operator is just some kind of incarnation of fear with no real explanation. Kind of like the labyrinth in House of Leaves.

Like, The Operator is just an entity of fear. There is no explanation as to why exists, it just is, and the lack of any way to rationalize its existence is just a method of forwarding its purpose, because it just shouldn't be, but it is and it's after you.

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Slendermau5 wrote:
Miller wrote:
the bigger question could be asked is, why did he come back to Tim? I mean Tim was institutionalized and had his pills and all, it all seemed to be going great for him until this "movie" came into place. What made the operator come back?!? Jetpack
Possibly having a camera pointed at Tim allowed TO to see where he was and come back to him, like what happened to Alex in Entry #26.


I like this theory.
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AAAAA42 wrote:
That last post makes me wonder if The Operator is just some kind of incarnation of fear with no real explanation. Kind of like the labyrinth in House of Leaves.

Like, The Operator is just an entity of fear. There is no explanation as to why exists, it just is, and the lack of any way to rationalize its existence is just a method of forwarding its purpose, because it just shouldn't be, but it is and it's after you.


My only problem with this theory is that it can't be Tim's fault because it's not anyones fault. I've been saying it's Tim's fault for a long time and this last entry kind of nails that point. Tim did something that started all this.

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Can I put a long-winded theory here?


I like this and will hop on this ride.

I actually can see something like this being plausible, at least it makes sense to me. In 60.5, it says that Tim ran away to Rosswood 2 'something redacted' before being institutionalized and diagnosed as schizophrenic. Maybe that was when the whole thing started. He somehow manifested TO, but hear me out, maybe he created Masky AND Hoody. Maybe Masky being his persona and Hoody his split personality in human form? If that's the case, who would know Tim better than Tim and have access to his medical files and call Tim a Liar (if it is indeed Hoody calling Tim a Liar) and know about the medicine. Maybe that's why TO won't let him see who's behind the hood. I don't think they'd mention the schizophrenia and all that for nothing. And if that's all the case, then the story wasn't really so much about Jay at all. He kinda got pulled into all this. I could be wrong (just dismiss it if I am) but Tim's first friend was Brian. Brian was in Marble Hornets, Tim met Alex. So it's really about Tim and Alex, and Tim coming to terms with possibly creating this monster. Jay's soul purpose was to bring this thing full circle, because Tim was doing fine on his own. Tim probably didn't know this stuff was happening to Alex, because Alex had all the tapes. I just think a lot of things essentially boil down to Tim.

In the end, I have no idea. Seems like a very interesting theory, and I had a lot of fun with it.

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