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What actually is the ark.
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toclafane212
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What actually is the ark.
Sorry if there is another one of these.

So i googled the ark and it came up with the fact that ark means container in Latin. So I had a thought. What if "the ark" is a tape. A tape "contains" videos and film. So maybe Totheark is actually looking a tape. I don't really have an idea of what could be on that tape but I was thinking maybe how to stop TO or just a revealing tape.

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Cyberpineapple
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I'd never thought of the ark as a way to stop TO but I guess that would explain TTA's interest in it. I think it might have been said the ark definitely isn't Alex but maybe the fact that an ark is a container means that the ark is a "vessel" for TO to posess, kinda like a "perma-proxy". So that makes me open to the possibility that Alex could be the ark.

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My only issue with the Ark being a tape is that then the only reason TTA would be so interested would be if it contains some information he doesn't have already, and unless it's a way to defeat TO and Alex (and I feel like it would just be weird if that kind of info was on a tape), I can't think what he'd be looking for. He seems to know more of what's going on than anyone except maybe Alex (and that's a big maybe), so what information could he possibly be so obsessed with that he doesn't already have?

I don't know, I guess it's possible, but I feel like something just seems wrong about the idea that the Ark just contains some critical info. I think it would probably most likely be:

1. A location (such as the weird cement world we saw in 65)
2. A person (probably Jay or Jessica based on the interest TTA and TO seem to have in both)

Of course, there are tons and tons of other possibilities given how little information we have to go off of, and it's even possible that the Ark doesn't actually exist (though TTA still believes it does).

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Ztakk
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I've always thought the ark was something that granted resistance or immunity to The Operator, that would be used in order to defeat it.

Thought just occurred to me while posting this though, maybe the ark is a container to seal away The Operator?

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Lithp
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My problem with a lot of the Ark theories is that they are so much more "out there" than Marble Hornets has ever been.

"Way to defeat The Operator?" "Way to seal it away?" "Way to grant immunity from it?"

These kind of sound like anime plots.

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George G
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A serious, answerable question I don't know the answer to: when was the last time any character in MH mentioned the ark in any way at all?

I ask this, because I have a feeling that the ark is never going to be mentioned or ever become relevant. I fear that the ark is not even a MacGuffin at this point, but a completely abandoned plot element, a dead end. (In other news, Santa Claus is not real, your parents never loved you and GRRM is not going to live long enough to finish the ASoIaF series, but that's neither here nor there.)
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As far as I can remember, the last person to mention it was TTA in one of the season two entries. I think it was in "decay". I don't think anyone besides TTA has ever mentioned the ark.

I feel the same way as you somewhat but at the same time I feel like if it was an abandoned plot element that they wouldn't have brought it back up so late in season 2.

Its another one of those little annoyances that jay never brings it up in conversation. Same as how they never refer to the operator.

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George G
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The ark is mentioned in Decay, you are correct. I forgot about that.

Well, that raises my optimism a little bit. Not too much, since that was a year ago, but still.
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McGregor wrote:
Its another one of those little annoyances that jay never brings it up in conversation. Same as how they never refer to the operator.


I have this idea that Jay is just as fucking fatigued as the rest of us that TTA never actually does anything or provides much useful information. Somewhere along the line his tweets about TTA responses became, "TTA responded again," and that was it.

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Lithp wrote:
My problem with a lot of the Ark theories is that they are so much more "out there" than Marble Hornets has ever been.

"Way to defeat The Operator?" "Way to seal it away?" "Way to grant immunity from it?"

These kind of sound like anime plots.

Yeah, that basically sums up my reasoning for my own theories on the matter. If the Ark was a person or a location, that could easily work into the feel of MH, but the other ideas are kinda out of line with the series' tone. Of course, we have so little to go on that "out there" theories are unavoidable...

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A serious, answerable question I don't know the answer to: when was the last time any character in MH mentioned the ark in any way at all?

I ask this, because I have a feeling that the ark is never going to be mentioned or ever become relevant. I fear that the ark is not even a MacGuffin at this point, but a completely abandoned plot element, a dead end.

As has been said, it was in Decay, but please note Decay was in Season 3, not Season 2. Which means they still hadn't abandoned it at the start of what they knew to be the final season, when they already were allegedly plotting out the ending and a good deal of what would lead up to it. So I would be surprised if it was abandoned entirely.

Will we get a solid answer? Maybe not, but if we don't, I expect it would be only if they never intended to answer it to begin with. Personally, I think they'll either directly answer it or give us enough information to infer it easily.

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George G wrote:
A serious, answerable question I don't know the answer to: when was the last time any character in MH mentioned the ark in any way at all?

I ask this, because I have a feeling that the ark is never going to be mentioned or ever become relevant. I fear that the ark is not even a MacGuffin at this point, but a completely abandoned plot element, a dead end. (In other news, Santa Claus is not real, your parents never loved you and GRRM is not going to live long enough to finish the ASoIaF series, but that's neither here nor there.)


The issue is that there was never evidence that it was anything more than one of many crypticisms of totheark, a character known for his crypticisms that are entirely metaphorical (at best). People ran with the name of the channel and a scant few mentions in early videos and suddenly turned the Ark into some critically important plot element, despite never appearing or being mentioned in an actual entry.

I am absurdly confident that the Ark is nothing more than an allegorical representation of the end of the conflict with Alex and the Operator. "You will lead me to the Ark" is a cryptic, allegorical way of saying "You will help me find a way to end this".
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Xicon wrote:
George G wrote:
A serious, answerable question I don't know the answer to: when was the last time any character in MH mentioned the ark in any way at all?

I ask this, because I have a feeling that the ark is never going to be mentioned or ever become relevant. I fear that the ark is not even a MacGuffin at this point, but a completely abandoned plot element, a dead end. (In other news, Santa Claus is not real, your parents never loved you and GRRM is not going to live long enough to finish the ASoIaF series, but that's neither here nor there.)


The issue is that there was never evidence that it was anything more than one of many crypticisms of totheark, a character known for his crypticisms that are entirely metaphorical (at best). People ran with the name of the channel and a scant few mentions in early videos and suddenly turned the Ark into some critically important plot element, despite never appearing or being mentioned in an actual entry.

I am absurdly confident that the Ark is nothing more than an allegorical representation of the end of the conflict with Alex and the Operator. "You will lead me to the Ark" is a cryptic, allegorical way of saying "You will help me find a way to end this".

Another strong possibility, but the Ark's not like half the random BS TTA says. It's referenced in his very name and in no less than three of his videos (one of them asking "Where is the Ark?", which I'm not convinced fits with your idea.)

Regardless, they've made enough of a point about it that I think they'd at least clear up what the "Ark" refers to by the end of the series, whether it's something tangible or more metaphorical. If your idea was right, for instance, I'd hope they'd at least say something to help clearly indicate that that's what the Ark meant.

Also, not sure I follow on "most" of what TTA says being metaphorical. Some examples of anything that would be similar, please?

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Djeezna
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It's the box that Alex kept with him in entry #71

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TheJoker
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Djeezna wrote:
It's the box that Alex kept with him in entry #71

Unless we're given concrete reason to believe those tapes were anything other than the ones we already saw in the hole, probably not. Although I did initially assume they were separate from the burned tapes, and haven't ruled it out just yet.

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Lithp
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If the Ark was really nothing but some weird metaphor, they really should have clarified that by now. So many writers have made the "well we'll just let them play this up like some kind of big mystery" & are then surprised when people are disappointed when it never turns up in any meaningful way that I'm surprised this mistake is even still made.

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