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[VIDEO] Null
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gennerx
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SonicN2O wrote:
ziggazern wrote:
gennerx wrote:
ziggazern wrote:
Just had a thought.
What is null is the description/definition/name of the Operator symbol?

Ø = null = non-existence?

Maybe the Operator is a null pointer exception! Laughing


Programming jokes aside you may be on to something.
Null could be the identity of TO rather the absence of any identity at all. He isn't just hiding his identity he doesn't have one.
Since Lovecraft's work seems to have had a at least some influence over the series I'd say he's unnamable like Lovecraft's short story The Unnamable.


Which could also explain his effects on electronics and their buggy behavior around him.


The operator symbol is two strikethroughs. It's much more likely that the symbol is for filmmakers marking potential filming locations.


That's been brought up before and it made sense. With the name of this entry though I'm less sure of that explanation.

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ziggazern
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gennerx wrote:
SonicN2O wrote:
ziggazern wrote:
gennerx wrote:
ziggazern wrote:
Just had a thought.
What is null is the description/definition/name of the Operator symbol?

Ø = null = non-existence?

Maybe the Operator is a null pointer exception! Laughing


Programming jokes aside you may be on to something.
Null could be the identity of TO rather the absence of any identity at all. He isn't just hiding his identity he doesn't have one.
Since Lovecraft's work seems to have had a at least some influence over the series I'd say he's unnamable like Lovecraft's short story The Unnamable.


Which could also explain his effects on electronics and their buggy behavior around him.


The operator symbol is two strikethroughs. It's much more likely that the symbol is for filmmakers marking potential filming locations.


That's been brought up before and it made sense. With the name of this entry though I'm less sure of that explanation.


I agree. We don't need to focus on the Ø symbol. The point is that 'null' is actually a very interesting interpretation of the Øperator. He is non-existence, he is faceless, shapeless (morphing abilitiy), timeless, spaceless, simply null.
He causes buggy behavior with electronics, time, and space. He literally causes null pointer exceptions with everything around him, because he cannot exist.

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Shockwave
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New theory time. I was discussing this with the Hub members and some of them liked it.

I think the 'your secret' part is not exactly addressing to Tim, but to Masky. Masky and Tim are two personas inhabiting the same body but not the same memories. Masky might have did something at one point that is considered a 'secret', hence the video. That or Masky knows something bad related to how this all started, possibly with what happened to the original MH cast. I know this is a long shot but I think Hoody/TTA was referring to Masky specifically, not Tim. Especially since the video said "It is silent" not ""He is silent".

"It", possibly referring to Masky, in my opinion.

All in all, I think we may be getting a Masky-centric entry soon.

EDIT: Will not be able to reply for the next few days due to being out of internet contact.

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ziggazern
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something else to kill time on.

due to the (x) on the first words 3rd character, I've removed all the 3rd characters from each word;
IANR
RPYA
SIHT
75BX
8429
MRIT

becomes something like

rain
pray
this
BX75
8429
trim

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Kayzen_Kaigihi
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Something I was thinking of. If you take the series of letters/numbers and assuming the NULL, void or whatever, in the line "IA(X)NR", the (X) (void symbol?) can mean that the middle letter of each series can be ommitted (corresponding to the position of TO symbol).
From :
IA(X)NR
RPRYA
SIMHT
75EBX
84129
MRWIT

You optain :
IANR
RPYA
SIHT
75BX
8429
MIRT

The removed ones : (X)RME1W

These can be changed to : RAIN, PRAY, THIS (SH*T?) for the three first lines. I can't figure out what the others can mean as it is maybe just nothing, but I post it in case it can help.

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ziggazern
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Kayzen_Kaigihi wrote:
Something I was thinking of. If you take the series of letters/numbers and assuming the NULL, void or whatever, in the line "IA(X)NR", the (X) (void symbol?) can mean that the middle letter of each series can be ommitted (corresponding to the position of TO symbol).
From :
IA(X)NR
RPRYA
SIMHT
75EBX
84129
MRWIT

You optain :
IANR
RPYA
SIHT
75BX
8429
MIRT

The removed ones : (X)RME1W

These can be changed to : RAIN, PRAY, THIS (SH*T?) for the three first lines. I can't figure out what the others can mean as it is maybe just nothing, but I post it in case it can help.


Jinx Wink

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PieAvenger
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This is just a stretch, but the whole Brian code thing is way too obvious to be real. No totheark code has been that simple.

Also, we cannot just say that totheark is Brian without deciphering the rest of the code.

Maybe the code only says something about Brian because he is also tied into this and technically missing(We did not see him being taken by the Operator like Bruce, Jessica, and Jay).

We have to also consider that Hoody has been filming Jay even before Marble Hornets started shooting (see: Exit).

If Brian was truly Hoody, why would he put up with the stuff that happened in Entry #51? He would've seen it coming.

It just doesn't seem likely that the goofy Marble Hornets star would double as Alex's best friend and number 1 rival.

And if it was for revenge, then we know that it can't be possible because Hoody was filming Jay since he and Alex were location scouting (Exit) which makes Entry #51 come later in the shooting.

I'm more leaning towards Seth being Hoody. He's had access to Alex's tapes which were sometimes used in the earlier totheark entries (like the sound clip from Operator) and in Entry #54:

Tim: "...said he's kinda soaking right now, but he said he was gonna be back in a little bit."

Seth: "Aren't the...aren't the tapes in his car?"

Jay: "Yeah, unless you wanna wait for him--"

Seth then cuts off Jay and leaves, almost abruptly.

That always seemed incredibly suspicious to me. He also has every reason to be angry at Alex because they didn't really seem like friends.

How does this tie into Null? Well, the code that we are trying to decipher HAS to be about Brian. And totheark may very well still be a group of people, whether Hoody is leading a pack of minions or not. I still don't want to let go of the "Toothy" mask in Entry #26 that also appears in totheark's Memories.

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The Happy Madman
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I, for one, subscribe to the multiple ark theory, and I can bet that at least one is a box.
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ledzepfilm
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I really have no comment, but shit's going down soon. Very soon.

Also more confirmation that TTA=Hoody with Hoody's face in the REGARDS section.
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JAL13
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RedHotRubberDucky wrote:
Or teh lake is a portal to the slender realm.


Since everyone ignored your fabulous theory I will talk with you. That was very good observation there RedHot. I have been ruminating on that point for a while and must say that it is a valid and sound theory. Quite possibly in line with my own rationale toward the Marble Hornets series.

*Tips fedora and closes the logician's dictionary for dummies*

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SonicN2O
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Marble Hornets wrote:

i wouldn't count alex burning the tapes or rosswood being full of trees, or the tunnel being for water. jay's apartment was also most likely burned down to get him to move (hoody/tim) or to kill him (alex), so i wouldn't count that either

again, water references could easily just be referencing noah's ark. i really don't think water will end up playing a role in anything at all, it's all red herring symbolism in my eyes


Troseph stated in an interview that TO is attracted to flammable objects, like trees. As for the noah's ark thing, I think the ark is something that protects against a purge, like someone's going to kill everyone who's been influenced by TO, or somewhere where you can be safe from TO...

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Marble Hornets
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i don't recall them ever saying that. post the interview

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Beidah
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PieAvenger wrote:
If Brian was truly Hoody, why would he put up with the stuff that happened in Entry #51? He would've seen it coming.


And Seth wouldn't have put up with Entry #23. (I think that's the right one)
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Ascalondion
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Marble Hornets wrote:
i don't recall them ever saying that. post the interview


http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=38419

Quote:
[07:18] Joseph: "Well, he does like fire."


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matixzun
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Maybe on exit it wasn't Hoody filming, but Tim instead.

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