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Oransel
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SaferSaturnX wrote:

Oransel wrote:

I don't know if this theory has been up before, but with every TTA video I feel like

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Marble Hornets crew may have done something very very bad and forgotten about it (Oldboy, anyone?) or blocked those memories (Machinist) and TO is materialized emotional trauma and/or guilt. That would explain pills at least (amnesiac, neural cooldown). TTA constantly talks about revenge and his hatred towards Tim and especially Alex. Of course there is much simpler explanation: he/she hates Alex for giving them to TO, but sometimes I get the feeling that there are much much more reasons for hatred.
Unrelated: maybe Hoody is burnt under the mask?

This right here has made the most sense to me. To sum up:

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Something bad happened during the making of Marble Hornets, everybody blocked it out, and The Operator is a mental manifestation of either guilt or rage, very likely with Tim as the culprit (I like the references to Oldboy and The Machinist, but in this case it reminds me more of Paranoia Agent). TTA's actions and anger at Tim's lying would make more sense if Tim turned out to be the one "summoning" TO, even if it's accidentally.

Regarding the Null itself:

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Maybe they (Alex, Tim and Brian) have seen someone drown and did nothing to help? Lake on the other side of the tunnel - the Ark? Maybe that's where water motives come from? That's why Tim was drowned? Or if ARK is first letters of a name, that name may belong to the victim at lake (girl, I think - those were distorted screams at the end of the video IMO). They blocked the memory, but manifestation of guilt (awakened by Tim) hurts Alex. Finally he snaps and remembers what happened. He goes on the rampage believing that if he will give bodies to TO, he will avenge the victim and won't have to admit his own guilt. Sarah, Seth and Jay may be collateral damage and are not really tied to the initial events. It does not work, instead there are 2 damaged people now - Hoody (Brian, I think) and Masky, who understand what's going on. Tim is running away from the truth, still blocking the memories, while Hoody and Masky and maybe 3rd member - TTA are bent on ending things, which requires everyone involved to find closure - die or accept their guilt and atone themselves. That's why he is focused on Tim (avoidant type) and Alex (active denial type). It should end where it all begun - at lake, where Alex and Tim should accept the things they did in order for TO to go away.

Tragic story.

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:07 am
Last edited by Oransel on Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:02 am; edited 3 times in total

TheManPF
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Posts: 191

Oh, what about this, null means nothing, nothing means zero, and "Impurity" has a lot of zeroes, and Impurity is a reply to Entry #12, and Sarah is in it, so maybe that means TTA is Sarah!

Seriously what the fuck

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:14 am

og1764
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Joined: 06 Dec 2013
Posts: 59
Location: Australia

TheManPF wrote:

Our opinions are just as good as yours.

Nobody has a real clue what's going on. It's not like we know what's happening and we're still just putting out crap theories for shits and gigs. Calm down.

Voicing thoughts never hurt anyone, and maybe one of our thoughts might be right. Whether you believe it or not doesn't change the possible validity of it.

There's no need to diss someone else's opinion just because you dont believe it. Sometimes I say things at school and nobody understands it, but it makes sense in my head. And I'm in a class of 15 and 16 year olds. They don't have a crack at other peoples opinions (at least not as publicly as you). I would hope that adults would be able to respect other peoples opinions. Obviously I'm in for a life of disappointment.

Refute opinions all you wish, but you haven't done that. If you had provided evidence and perhaps hadn't been as harsh, then there wouldn't have been a need for this.

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:31 am

Girlwholovesherelves
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Joined: 11 Oct 2013
Posts: 6

Two things I have narrowed down...I think.
I did some research

1. I noticed something at the corner towards the end. It was so quick, I couldn't really pause it. With a bit of luck, I managed to do so:

http://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1/1977414_3956544450022_240185480_n.jpg

2. I typed in one of the jumbled letters during the video; 84129 into google and got an address for Salt Lake city Utah...odd.

3. 75EXB typing it into google, I got a bible verse;
Luke 1:75
Expanded Bible (EXB)
75 being holy and �good [righteous] before God as long as we live.
Could this be a message?

Those seem to be the only things I found. I'm not saying they're connected to anything, though you guys interpret it how ever you like.

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:53 am

Ascalondion
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Joined: 05 Dec 2013
Posts: 235
Location: Woods

Re: Two things I have narrowed down...I think.
I did some research

Girlwholovesherelves wrote:

The picture has been accounted for numerous times, and is currently widely believed to be Hoodys face/mask. It further strengthens the evidence that, at least for season 3, Hoody is closely affiliated with TTA, or even IS TTA.

I think the Utah postal code is just a coincidence, and I'm not too fond of bible reference in MH. Of course it might be that Troysephim took them as inspiration for the design of the series, but I have my doubt that biblical code will solve an ingame puzzle that has been put forth by a ingame character. And, as far as I know, no biblical reference to solve any TTA code has turned out any result. (I'm just guessing � please proof me wrong if indeed one puzzle was solved on the ground of bible references.)

And, I also doubt the 6 strings have an independent meaning. I have a hunch that we need to put them into the right order or right arrangement to solve their code. Maybe the number of repetitions of the sequences gives a hint, or the number of whistles/screams we can hear. Or maybe something different.
Maybe it is that TTA tune that has been coming up in some of his videos (is it ONE tune, or were multiple tunes used?), or that matrix of slashes from "Regards" again, that was more information than just "lok". I don't know.

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:23 am

Miller
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Joined: 10 Nov 2013
Posts: 31
Location: 51.3896� N, 30.0991� E

Well just thought of this when I watched Lost last night. What if Tim, Alex, Jay are dead? there are plenty of similarities of the island to the series. The ark could the way out and TO could be the island. so by saying this I said that Jay moved on, which Tim and Alex can't until some conflict is solved. Rosswood is ever changing like *gasp* the island! Honestly this probably isn't accurate at all but you must admit there are quite too many similarities to Lost in this Story for someone not to make this theory. I'm not saying that I'm right at all but you must admit that if you watched lost this is way to eerily similar.

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:14 am

PieAvenger
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Joined: 08 Feb 2014
Posts: 62
Location: The Ark, obviously. Or Michigan. Not Sure.

awakeasaurusrex wrote:

I too thought that the audio sounded like a distant train going by.

It is perhaps no coincidence that railway tracks are very, very prominent in Entry 51. (Brian and Alex are filming stuff there before moving on to the hospital.)

Woah now, here's a thing: Entry 51 was found on a tape marked "56-42". That's a five-symbol sequence, just like we get at the end of this TTA video. Is it possible that that is some sort of key to this code?

Thank you for bringing that up! Why did Jay label it 56-42? That seems so odd.

There's something that happened in those missing 7 months that we don't know of. Jay may have experienced something significant to the story and we will never know. What I'm doing is going back on all the entries and writing things down that were never answered or didn't make sense. Not everything, but there are certain things that stick out in relation to Null.

Like 1. 56-42. It has the same 5-character sequence found in Null. But what does it mean? It wouldn't mean Entry #56 because that wasn't even out at the time. The only thing I can think of is a two-part combination for some sort of lock. Either way, it serves as a "key" to something.

It also happens to be the tape in which Brian is attacked and "taken away." And if we're right in assuming that Hoody is Brian AND totheark, then there might be something in Entry #51 that we missed.

2. Now I may be mistaken on this, but the code found on Dec 4 of the MarbleHornets twitter account has not yet been decoded.

Dec 4:
"SG93IGRvIGhhbmRzIHRhbGs="

in base64, this translates into "how do hands talk". which is great, because at least it's in English Rolling Eyes

but then there's another one right after it:

Dec 4:
"ZFo4MGJJVUVNeVE"

What does this translate into? All I got was "dZ80bIUEMyQ".

Encoding it only brings about more characters, but decoding "dZ80bIUEMyQ" gets you close to another 5-character sequence:

"u4l3$"

This is a complete stretch. Those characters could mean nothing and it is probably just a coincidence. However, anything is possible at this point and I'm starting to get the notion that there are a whole lot of other 5-character sequences that we might have missed.

3.

KTsteve wrote:

Specifically during the "regards" section it repeats:

IA(X)NR
RPRYA
SIMHT
75EBX
84129
MRWIT

In that order 7 times before it gets all blurry

These lovely gems. According to KTsteve they repeat 7 times (I'll have to check on that). I'm not completely sure what to do with these yet. Confused

But I have a hunch that these characters will draw a picture when put into certain positions.

and finally 4. The video description being

=
LOC
ATI
ON
=

Which boggles me. The "=" operators however remind me of Base 64 schemes. So this could mean that we need Base64 to solve this, using two "=" signs on both sides of a variable code that we can replace "LOCATION" with. Maybe? I don't know! Embarassed

If I find any actual decent clues, then I'll post them. Very Happy

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 12:23 pm

Sha Noran
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Joined: 29 Apr 2013
Posts: 919

PieAvenger wrote:

awakeasaurusrex wrote:

KTsteve wrote:

Specifically during the "regards" section it repeats:

IA(X)NR
RPRYA
SIMHT
75EBX
84129
MRWIT

In that order 7 times before it gets all blurry

These lovely gems. According to KTsteve they repeat 7 times (I'll have to check on that). I'm not completely sure what to do with these yet. Confused

If I find any actual decent clues, then I'll post them. Very Happy

1. In all likelihood, this means nothing. Jay had a lot of tapes, so he came up with a way to label them.

2. That was solved. The second string of characters is the end of a YouTube url. It's a video of typing - typing being how hands talk.

3 and 4 - the purpose of this thread.

Great post there though, chief. Wink

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 12:53 pm

Ascalondion
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Joined: 05 Dec 2013
Posts: 235
Location: Woods

PieAvenger wrote:

KTsteve wrote:

Specifically during the "regards" section it repeats:

IA(X)NR
RPRYA
SIMHT
75EBX
84129
MRWIT

In that order 7 times before it gets all blurry

These lovely gems. According to KTsteve they repeat 7 times (I'll have to check on that). I'm not completely sure what to do with these yet. Confused

If I find any actual decent clues, then I'll post them. Very Happy

Well, first of all, I've already posted the exact order the sequence twice - so I'm starting to getting self-conscious about it. Is there anything wrong with it, that people ignore it? (They even quote the wrong "RPRYA " instead of the actual "RPYRA")

Anyways, that's what I've found:

Ascalondion wrote:

To 1.
The 56-42 thing startled me. I had settled with the combination being just a random number Jay wrote down to mark that tape (maybe some internal number he has for organizing his videos) But writen under each other, they look so promising I think:

Code:

56-42
IA-NR

Still, I don't know what to do with them. I tried to assign each letter to a number, but got nothing and I don't know how to incorporate the other characters into that:

Code:

123456789
_R_NIA___

It's probably bull, but if anyone see's more in that than me, go ahead!

To that twitter thing: Sha Noran already covered that. Wink

To 4. I've tried to encrypt "Location" into base64 and got "TG9jYXRpb24="
This however, is neither or youtube video, nor is it one if you reverse it. (By taking the "=" as the "=" in the standart youtube url and going backwards from there.)

I've tried around for a bit more, varying with spaces, uppercases and linebreaks, but found nothing usefull. If it is base64, I don't know how to get meaning out of this.
(For those inclined to pursue this, the base64 you get when you enter the *exact* video description, with linebreaks, is "PQpMT0MKQVRJCk9OCj0=". Go nuts!)

So, yeah, nothing new. But I've thought I'll post this, so that others to not the same stuff over and over again, only to find nothing.

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 1:16 pm

Marble Hornets
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Posts: 946

Miller wrote:

As someone who has watched the entirety of lost four times, no.

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 1:25 pm

PieAvenger
Boot

Joined: 08 Feb 2014
Posts: 62
Location: The Ark, obviously. Or Michigan. Not Sure.

Ascalondion wrote:

Code:

56-42
IA-NR

Still, I don't know what to do with them. I tried to assign each letter to a number, but got nothing and I don't know how to incorporate the other characters into that:

Code:

123456789
_R_NIA___

It's probably bull, but if anyone see's more in that than me, go ahead!

To that twitter thing: Sha Noran already covered that. Wink

Holy snacks! Thanks for the correction and keeping me up to date Laughing

xD. This totheark video is just soooo confusing!

It was a nice find about that code though. I also thought to put them together like that. It may be complete bull, it may have been just an identification or whatever, but 56-42 is probably the weirdest label I have ever seen. It just sticks out like a sore thumb.

Off I go to look for more clues >:3

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 1:36 pm

Shockwave
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Joined: 19 Mar 2013
Posts: 252
Location: Kaon, Cybertron

Marble Hornets wrote:

Miller wrote:

As someone who has watched the entirety of lost four times, no.

For once, I agree with user MarbleHornets. And I really think the whole bit about Lost and spoiling the ending should have been spoiler tagged. A lot of people may not have seen it yet.

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:20 pm

DHawk314
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Joined: 17 May 2011
Posts: 1087

Sha Noran wrote:

I just gotta say, the internet cop routine over the last couple of pages was fucking hilarious, LOL! He just called you Captain Obvious, that isn't exactly a hardcore diss, rather more of a light-hearted jab, and BOOM you wall of texted so hard, haha. And Zarggg just doesn't care, that's the best part LOL. I mean I'm not one to defend Henry, I think you all know I don't really enjoy his attitude either, but man, definitely a bit of an over reaction!

Can we focus on solving the code, and not how much your butts are collectively hurt over the mean man on the internet? If Zarggg can't get Hermann banned (every post he's made is troll/fake Entry/20 dollaz) then seriously, the user MH isn't going anywhere. Rolling Eyes

If he had only done it once it wouldn't have been so much of a reaction. That would have been an overreaction to just that one thing, but it wasn't a reaction to just that one thing period, so I fail to see the relevance of that. Also, no one is distracting from the code. Some people are working on the code. Other people posting in the thread doesn't take away from that. You can't really get off topic when it just comes to solving a code, that's not a conversation in that kind of way, where the topics have to be mutually exclusive. It's a message board not a live chatroom.

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I was just lurking around the forums and i have no idea who MH is

I'm in here sometimes: http://tinychat.com/thehoodyhub

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:44 pm

JAL13
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Posts: 269
Location: Between Realms

Shockwave wrote:

Marble Hornets wrote:

Miller wrote:

As someone who has watched the entirety of lost four times, no.

For once, I agree with user MarbleHornets. And I really think the whole bit about Lost and spoiling the ending should have been spoiler tagged. A lot of people may not have seen it yet.

I thought about that theory before, but if they truly are dead how would they be uploading to Youtube as well as communicating via Twitter?

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:30 pm

Neroslol
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Joined: 06 Dec 2013
Posts: 19

After watching TTA's latest video, i couldn't help but think that when we get another entry of "s**t hitting the fan" were all gonna be sitting there with our jaws to the floor. Something about this lastest video really makes me feel that way.

Also, have we ever figured out as to why hoody can not kill Alex directly instead of using subterfuge and gorilla tactics to get at him? I was thinking about previous entries and i really dont remember why. Granted, TO is obviously going to protect Alex/others (as we perceive TO's actions anyways) but that has never stopped Tim when he was his "masky" persona to go after Alex. I hope someone can answer this, or if no one can hopefully we find out why he wont/cant within the next few entries since were nearing the end here.

(Going on my comp soon and will post images of the blue figure that appears around 28 seconds in Null, and maybe we can figure out what it is. been lazy recently Razz

)

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:22 pm

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