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[DHawk314]

Who's dead?

[Lithp]

No "Undecided" option. With the limited knowledge of The Operator's capabilities & goals, I wouldn't say that anyone is dead for certain.

[DHawk314]

I'm not asking for people to give their opinion on if it's ambiguous or not, I'm asking what people personally think. You might think of it as the same question, but if you break it down those are slightly different binaries.

Binary A: What's your personal opinion (Dead/Alive)
Binary B: Do you think it's "certain" or not (Yes/No)

You can:

Think they're dead and think it's certain.
Think they're dead and think it's uncertain.
Think they're alive and think it's certain.
Think they're alive and think it's uncertain.

If you're "Undecided" that's not an opinion, it means you think it's uncertain and your personal opinion about which is more likely is either A) Not done calculating or B) Not something you feel like calculating. OR, C) you think it's ambiguous and you've calculated a PRECISELY 50/50 chance given all the really complex variables. Which is technically possible but statistically unlikely.

It's totally completely okay if you don't feel like analyzing and thus have no opinion beyond the ambiguous thing, but I didn't include undecided as an option because it didn't answer the question.

In contrast, I SHOULD have included nobody is dead. But alas, I forgot. Oops.

[Lithp]

I can't really "calculate" anything, because this is a qualitative question, not a quantitative one. And, qualitatively speaking, I'm pretty sure Hoody is not dead, Jay LOOKS dead but he might not be, & everyone else is completely ambiguous. I wouldn't want to choose any of the options because that presents an inaccurate version of my viewpoint, & it is unlikely that I am going to change it without more information. But it doesn't matter that much, because I just saw the "View results" button, & I'm more interested in seeing what most people think.

Also, the title should be "Who's dead?" Whose is the possessive case.

[aidansean]

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[Beidah]

Well, I'm fairly certain that Jessica was shot by Alex in her last entry. Jay was definitely shot, and he looked dead as dicks last we saw him. Hoody might actually still be alive; the fall mightn't have killed him, but just knock him out. I think Brian is Hoody.

[evanx275h]

Going solely based on what I think without any evidence (and based on what I think would most likely be the case), I think that Jay, Jessica, and Hoody are dead. Now that's not what I'd prefer, mind you - I'd actually rather all three of them be alive, and only for the stupid and selfish aspect of "I LOVE ALL OF THESE CHARACTERS WHY ME".

Though it does make sense that they're all dead in terms of the plot, especially considering the fact that this is supposed to be a horror series... we almost forgot it was, didn't we... We've been introduced to these characters in hope of getting answers and learning more about them and, surprise, they kill off Jessica (one of the main reasons Jay was conducting his investigation after Season 2), and then Jay shortly after. It feels like a bookend to Jay's tragic story; his purpose of finding Jessica was extinguished, so he went and got himself killed after being turned angry by the Operator, thus ending his story in the most tragic way.

Hoody being dead just seems smart on a whole "fuck you, audience" kind of way; plenty of shows are responsible for this kind of storytelling, dangling a character that has all the answers we want and then removing any possible chance of getting those answers directly from him - by killing him off. Then again, this is Marble Hornets. WE HAVE THE HOODY TAPE, which is the next best thing. I just think that killing him off would make procuring the tape more meaningful, as the tape itself would be the only way of getting those answers now; we've been getting these "Hoody planting tapes" scenarios for a big part of season 3 now, and it's sort of more meaningful to know that this is the last one, because Hoody's dead.

That's what I think, anyways. I hope I'm wrong, but if I'm right I wouldn't necessarily be surprised.

[Lithp]

[Beidah]

[ledzepfilm]

[DHawk314]

[TheOperator]

I can understand people thinking Jay and Jessica are dead, especially after the last entry where we saw how much Jay had bled out but I'm amazed so many people are writing off Hoody after a one-story fall that was extremely abrupt and took place in a clusterfuck of other abrupt events. It makes it slightly more baffling that only Brian is given a pass. His death scene was actually better than the other three's would be, on the basis that one wouldn't have expected much of a death for such a (currently) minor character.

Anyway, from an optimistic point of view, I only think Brian is dead. Though I am worrying a lot more about Jay after Entry #83. Jessica is almost definitely not dead and I will be shocked if she really died in such a dumb way. Hoody is certainly not dead because that was even dumber a way to go.

[DHawk314]

But see with Brian, you're supposed to think he's dead. He's a character who, in every possible way, seems to have died; nearly everything is confirmed. Not just his death scene, but Tim, his known best friend, inexplicably losing track of him at around the same time he did Alex. His house being just completely abandoned.

But from what we know of totheark/Hoody, it makes sense that he would have abandoned his house and wouldn't be picking up the phone. It works because by all measuring points Brian's "Death scene" was a formality on top of his basically assumed death, or would have been assumed if most did not believe him Hoody. And it works because Hoody is as good as dead in pretty much every fashion Brian was before the death scene (Un-contactable, messy house explanation)

For instance, as Jay says in 16, "It seemed abandoned, but I did hear weird noises." Trigger totheark response, showing he filmed Jay during the previous entry. Brian's house wasn't abandoned, he always lived there, he just went crazy, plus he's also that other crazy guy totheark and thus also Hoody. That's the twist.

In other words: I fully believe you're supposed to think that Jay is dead, Hoody is dead, Brian and is dead (Via 51), and Jessica is dead. So if Hoody or any of the other ones actually came back, it'll basically be for the whole "Oh shit they're actually alive" twist factor. I don't see any use of almost killing off a character just for the sake of a twist this close to the ending. But for Brian, I see why that twist would be there, because it's not just "Twist he lived!" by itself which is like nothing, but "Twist he lived and did all this other shit!" which is cool.

If Jay, Jessica, and Hoody come back after all the blocks of plot put in to kill them, and I'm gonna be sitting there asking myself "Uh, what's the point here exactly?" With Brian I won't.

[gennerx]

Did you ever stop to think that you are dead and this is what death is.