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[VIDEO] Entry #83
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Jordan
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twistedpuppet wrote:
Mother fuckin cocktease! X(


I have mixed feelings about it, to be honest. Was an exciting tense scene? Oh God, yes. But, I really want some proper tease regarding Hoody's identity and well, we haven't really gotten anything other then some very heavy teasing towards Brian or Seth.

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SilentMedusa
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Vinny wrote:
Imagine if mystery fella's tape was a warning to Tim "hey Tim, listen up, the pills I have in my pocket are not your medication, whatever you do don't take them or you'll die"

But in all seriousness, interesting entry, a little too artsy though. Reminds me a lot of entry 65. The opening doors was the scariest part.


I seem to be the only one that dismissed those double doors as completely irrelevant, but now I wonder. Didn't Tim have some sort of surgical procedure during his stint in the hospital? Maybe something went wrong, and made his problems worse rather than better? I notice Tim said "I don't belong here; why'd you bring me here!?"

I keep thinking of that scene with the fire...

Okay! Wild speculation ahead: After years of languishing in a psych hospital, Tim made a deal of some kind with The Operator in order to get out. TO set the place on fire, and someone was hurt or killed. The guilt of that caused Tim to have a psychotic break and forget. And that's what's causing the trouble. TO is just trying to collect what he's owed, but Tim doesn't remember anything of it, so can't give the payment, whatever it may be, or make amends for what he caused.

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Doobie-Boo
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Code and Theories
Possible solution to Null and theories on Entry 83.

Hey Everyone, first time posting, but I've really been giving some thought to both Null and Entry 83. I think I have possible solution for the code and some theories based on the new entry.So to start off with the solution. The code in Null is:

IA(Operator Symbol)NR
RPRYA
SIMHT
75EBX
84129
MRWIT

This code flashes 7 times before distorting with what seems to be Hoody's face to left of it. Now looking at the numbers sequentially from all the lines in the code (1,2,x,4,5,x,7,8,9) the 3 and 6 are missing. Well, the 3rd letter in the first line is the operator symbol, which seems pretty significant. So take the 3rd character from each line of code and we're left with (operator symbol, R, M, E, 1, W). So now there's the issue of the 6. Well there are only 5 characters to each line of code, however, there are 6 lines of code. So the 3rd character from the 6th line is null (which is the W). When you unscramble the remaining characters you are left with the message "1 MORE" (the operator symbol obviously being the O in MORE). When you pair that with the description of the video, I believe TTA is trying to say that there is one more location left.

Now my theory, after watching Entry 83 and with what I've seen in Null, is as follows:

Null seemed to be a sort of goodbye. The code flashed 7 times and then distorted with Hoody's face next to it. It's as if Hoody "nullified" himself by letting himself fall off the ledge in Entry 83. Which would make him the 7th person to have seemingly died and been taken away to the "Dark World". The 7 victims being Sarah, Seth, Brian, Amy, Jessica, that guy Alex attacked, and Hoody. Why Hoody would do it is unknown, but it seemed as if he was trying pass off everything to Tim. Like "Here take the mask and then you can have your pills", but Tim rejected the mask at first. So after a prolonged, acid-trip like chase, Hoody let's himself be killed and Tim gets the tape, the pills, and is forced back into Masky state. Hoody's torch has been passed.

In Null, TTA eluded to knowing Tim's secret for years, however, the were things he needed to "See" and "Hear". We, and more importantly Tim, saw a lot in Entry 83. I'm pretty sure he'll see and hear even more from that tape. But I think TTA's Quadrant entry relates to this as well. If you watch that video it's imagery seems remarkably similar to Entry 83, with frantic jumps between different locations and images of faces and people ghosting over the footage throughout the video. He taunts "Who Am I . . .I Am The Third". Now I know folks debate this, but I believe Brian was the 3rd victim. I also believe him to be Hoody. Now how can he be a victim twice, because as Hoody he is no longer Brian, he is "Null", Empty, nothing. Honestly, I'd be pretty disappointed if we didn't get to know for sure who Hoody really was, but I believe it almost doesn't matter. Whoever Hoody was is irrelevant, he's not anybody anymore. He's distorted and destroyed like Alex, but in a slightly different way. Because even though Alex doesn't wear a mask, he most certainly is not himself anymore. The mask just protects what little of that former identity is left. Besides, I think the 4 parts of the quadrant are all that remains now. . .Tim, Alex, The Operator, and the last location. Anyway, this just my thoughts, I look forward to some feedback and the rest of the series. Entry 83 was awesome!

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KTsteve
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SilentMedusa wrote:
Vinny wrote:
Imagine if mystery fella's tape was a warning to Tim "hey Tim, listen up, the pills I have in my pocket are not your medication, whatever you do don't take them or you'll die"

But in all seriousness, interesting entry, a little too artsy though. Reminds me a lot of entry 65. The opening doors was the scariest part.


I seem to be the only one that dismissed those double doors as completely irrelevant, but now I wonder. Didn't Tim have some sort of surgical procedure during his stint in the hospital? Maybe something went wrong, and made his problems worse rather than better? I notice Tim said "I don't belong here; why'd you bring me here!?"

I keep thinking of that scene with the fire...

Okay! Wild speculation ahead: After years of languishing in a psych hospital, Tim made a deal of some kind with The Operator in order to get out. TO set the place on fire, and someone was hurt or killed. The guilt of that caused Tim to have a psychotic break and forget. And that's what's causing the trouble. TO is just trying to collect what he's owed, but Tim doesn't remember anything of it, so can't give the payment, whatever it may be, or make amends for what he caused.


You mean like... say... 20 dollars? *is immediately shot*

Serious talk though, more and more evidence is pointing towards Tim being the primary target of The Operator. Though I can't help but notice, whoever is taping always appears to be the victim, while everyone else is an antagonist. While Alex was taping it's quite obvious he's the operators victim. This could be him trying to cover up his psychopathy, but hear me out. When Jays taping everyone else seems like an enemy to him, and the operators main target is him. Now that Tim is taping, The Operator's main target is him, and everyone, even past allies like hoody, are portrayed as enemies.

Perhaps the operator gives you a distorted view on reality. To your operated brain, everyone seems like an enemy, and this paranormal creature is only hunting you. The recordings are modified by the operator to match your altered reality.

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paladin181
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Last bit wasn't the chest cam. No fish-eye effect around the edges. Means that could be Hoody's camera. Great entry over all. Really liked how scenes changed so rapid-fire.

Hope Hoody isn't dead. That is all.

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CraicIsMighty
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If Hoodie really is dead, I have to say that that was a particularly lame way for them to go. I still don't even understand how Hoodie even ended up hanging off that ledge in the first place. But yeah falling off a ledge seems a pretty anti-climatic way for our mysterious sociopath to meet their end.

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og1764
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DJay32 wrote:
Call me the stick in the mud or whatever word best describes me, but what I took from this entry is that we're probably not meant to see Hoody unmaked on-camera, not like this, not by Tim, not forcibly.

A lot of Marble Hornets so far has been about getting closure, and Tim's recently been going pretty haywire, assuming for whatever reason that Hoody is the bad guy and that unmasking him will bring him closure. So in this entry, he gets many opportunities to and takes these opportunities, but we are deliberately denied the payoff because it is not the right closure. Tim is doing it for the wrong reasons.

I think the next few entries will focus on Tim starting to direct his anger in different directions-- first himself, learning to forgive himself for whatever past secrets he's been keeping, and then at Alex, whereupon the series would probably end. Because that is what matters in the series. Who totheark/Hoody is ultimately doesn't matter as much.

I bet, if we do find out Hoody's identity, it'll either be through this tape or from Alex's mouth, as he's someone who definitely knows.


This.
Troy is too smart to just do that. we're probably nearing the end, and most things are probably heavily symbolic at this point.

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Darkly_Quill
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CraicIsMighty wrote:
If Hoodie really is dead, I have to say that that was a particularly lame way for them to go. I still don't even understand how Hoodie even ended up hanging off that ledge in the first place. But yeah falling off a ledge seems a pretty anti-climatic way for our mysterious sociopath to meet their end.

They climbed their stupid ass out the window and jumped off the ledge like a crackhead off a skyscraper. You could see them crawling out the window when the camera views overlayed each other right after the Hoody Haymaker.

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SilentMedusa
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Oooh, oooh, more wild speculation! What if the tape is Hoody extracting a statement (under duress) from Tim's mom (the mysterious Janet W.) about what really happened all those years ago?

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Sha Noran
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I just watched this, and before I read through the thread and make an in depth theory/speculation post, I just wanna say HOLY SHIT AMAZEBALLS!

OOG:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
The editing is amazing, and the teleporting overload must have been a lot of work to get the shots at each location and then mesh it all together so well in the editing room. Doozy confirmed and delivered. I really have always appreciated Trosephim's work, but this is like, WAY above and beyond. Bravo indeed.


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Lithp
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Darkly_Quill wrote:
CraicIsMighty wrote:
If Hoodie really is dead, I have to say that that was a particularly lame way for them to go. I still don't even understand how Hoodie even ended up hanging off that ledge in the first place. But yeah falling off a ledge seems a pretty anti-climatic way for our mysterious sociopath to meet their end.

They climbed their stupid ass out the window and jumped off the ledge like a crackhead off a skyscraper. You could see them crawling out the window when the camera views overlayed each other right after the Hoody Haymaker.


Yeah, it was my impression that he was trying to get away from Tim.

Quote:
That's the fish eye effect the chestcam usually has.


I have never noticed it before.

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SilentMedusa
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Weird. It's been that way since #27.

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AdamRPendleton
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KTsteve wrote:
SilentMedusa wrote:
Vinny wrote:
Imagine if mystery fella's tape was a warning to Tim "hey Tim, listen up, the pills I have in my pocket are not your medication, whatever you do don't take them or you'll die"

But in all seriousness, interesting entry, a little too artsy though. Reminds me a lot of entry 65. The opening doors was the scariest part.


I seem to be the only one that dismissed those double doors as completely irrelevant, but now I wonder. Didn't Tim have some sort of surgical procedure during his stint in the hospital? Maybe something went wrong, and made his problems worse rather than better? I notice Tim said "I don't belong here; why'd you bring me here!?"

I keep thinking of that scene with the fire...

Okay! Wild speculation ahead: After years of languishing in a psych hospital, Tim made a deal of some kind with The Operator in order to get out. TO set the place on fire, and someone was hurt or killed. The guilt of that caused Tim to have a psychotic break and forget. And that's what's causing the trouble. TO is just trying to collect what he's owed, but Tim doesn't remember anything of it, so can't give the payment, whatever it may be, or make amends for what he caused.


You mean like... say... 20 dollars? *is immediately shot*

Serious talk though, more and more evidence is pointing towards Tim being the primary target of The Operator. Though I can't help but notice, whoever is taping always appears to be the victim, while everyone else is an antagonist. While Alex was taping it's quite obvious he's the operators victim. This could be him trying to cover up his psychopathy, but hear me out. When Jays taping everyone else seems like an enemy to him, and the operators main target is him. Now that Tim is taping, The Operator's main target is him, and everyone, even past allies like hoody, are portrayed as enemies.

Perhaps the operator gives you a distorted view on reality. To your operated brain, everyone seems like an enemy, and this paranormal creature is only hunting you. The recordings are modified by the operator to match your altered reality.


I've thought this a lot. I keep thinking, maybe slender sickness gives you paranoia. Alex got it first and got paranoid of all his friends and that's why he seemed to be the only one to notice The Operator. Maybe The Operator doesn't even exists, he is just a hallucination of whatever thing that made Alex so paranoid. It could be your typical story of an experiment gone wrong, or government testing. Anyways, Alex killed almost all of his friends out of paranoia. Then due to his paranoia Alex went into hiding. Jay not knowing of any of this went on a search for Alex. By watching the tapes it seemed to pass on this sickness as seen by the fact that Jay's life was completely normal until he started watching the tapes. Perhaps it was a government experiment that was testing to see if too much electronics is unsafe for the general populace, then did something weird with the radio waves or some lame excuse like that, but it made everyone go crazy/paranoid. Then jay started doing the same thing Alex did. To Jay he is attacking Hoody/Masky/Operator, but really he is hallucinating and seems to anyone who comes in contact with him that he's acting crazy and he's attacking them. Then, like Alex his paranoia eventually leads him to hiding away. Jay through his paranoia eventually dragged Tim into it, and Now we are witnessing Time go through the same stages on his paranoia. All three of them were fine until they started watching a lot of tapes.

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SilentMedusa
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But if TO's a hallucination, we shouldn't be able to see him.

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I CAN'T BELIEVE I WAS LATE ON THIS!!!!!!!!!!!

WOW. What a fucking entry. Balls out. Can't WAIT to read everything you guys have come up with.

This is fucking spectacular.

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