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awakeasaurusrex
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Sha Noran wrote:
- If this kind of wild teleporting happens to Hoody regularly, its no wonder he is both insane and makes incomprehensible videos when attempting to communicate as/with TTA. Speaking of TTA imagine if Hoody wasn't alone - if a TTA vid gets put out after this it will be a major mind fuck.

Hoody's ability to elude chases really does suggest to me that reality is like this for him more or less all the time, which is some kind of crazy.

Related thought: what if this is what reality is like for Tim when he is in his Masky state? It'd explain the teleporting about the room when he kidnaps Jay in season 1.

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DHawk314
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Marble Hornets wrote:
I don't know about the female thing... Remember in that one entry where hoody was coughing? There was no way a female could make that noise. I also can't see a female overpowering alex like in the recent jessica entry


But a female did overpower Alex in the recent Jessica entry, Jessica did, remember when she attacked him while he had a fucking gun in his hand and took it from him?

Neroslol wrote:
I really dont think they would write off Hoody in such a lame/anticlimactic way. If anything (stupid analogy inc.) he seems like the type of character who will die in the heat of battle shooting two machine guns and a cigar in his mouth, rather than being teleported to a ledge (inside a building) and falling to his death.


This is entirely the epitome of what people don't understand about Marble Hornets. People always expect Marble Hornets to have a big climactic showdown. It's probably won't though, that is not it's style. Marble Hornets is not even traditional horror, there's no blood or guts or very many jumps scares. It's a small, subtle, atmospheric horror. Plus, it strives for a strong air of realism. A big climactic showdown is not in touch with what Marble Hornets simply does.

This is exactly what I was saying to everyone when Jay died. Everyone said he couldn't be dead, because it was an anti-climactic death, he just got unlucky and got shot. But a random, tragic death like that? Completely Marble Hornets style. Had Jay broken the window and fought Alex to the death? Would have been bullshit. The way they killed Jay off, and this entry clearly shows him as dead, may have been peculiar, but there was pretty much no other way they could have done it.

I'm not saying we won't find out what Hoody was up to, I think we will, I think the tape is the most obvious way for us to find out now. But if your only reason for thinking he didn't die is because his death was too random and weird and not actiony or intense or fitting enough, then that seems off to me. Because at this point, with Jay's death confirmed, that's basically the main reason I do think he's dead.
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^^ Lest we forget she kicked him in the balls.
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Vincent
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It has been mentioned here that the movie is not canonical to this series.

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What? That discussion was discussing about the "Alex Kralie's Marble Hornets" trailer on if it was canon or not. Decad was talking about The Operator movie coming out. Troy said it takes place in the same universe.


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pestoner
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Marble Hornets wrote:
pestoner wrote:
Neroslol wrote:
theyre goal(s)


stopped reading there


Marble Hornets wrote:

I still think Hoody didn't kill himself, that moving his hand was just a reaction to seeing tim swinging a pipe at him.



like he climbed out that window thinking he could hang around there for some time?and then he heard tim grabbing that pipe and was like "i dont want him to hit my hands,ill just let go of myself grabbing this Windows Frame and fall off!"
???


He didn't climb out of the window

he was teleported to it by the operator. remember tim hanging from a tree in entry 65?



just rewatched 65,havent seen tim hanging from a tree?!

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karalynnp123
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Hoody/Jay Theory

What if Hoody isn't future Jay, but past Jay? I'm not saying I fully, 100% support the idea of Jay being Hoody in any way, but IF he was, it doesn't make sense to me for Hoody to be "Jay from the future." It makes more sense if he's Jay from the past. There are lots of times in season 1/early episodes when Jay is just starting to film himself where he makes Jumps in time (Entry 15, Entry 24) where he has no recollection. So what if in Entry 15, when Tim/Masky shows up in Jays room while he's sleeping and takes him away, that was the first time that Tim/Masky recruited Jay/Hoody. What if thats why Hoody is so obsessed with getting Masky back. In his eye's it's Tim's fault he's hoody, and now it's Tim'f fault Jay is dead.

I mean to me, Hoody looked kind of surprised/in awe when he was looking at Jay laying there dead, on the floor (well i mean as shocked as you can be for someone wearing a mask).What if there was just a tiny sliver of recognition of himself on the floor and he realizes that he (Hoody) is looking at his future self (dead Jay). idk if anyone has come up with this theory before, but thats just what I thought. And maybe thats why Hoody knew he could let go of the ledge...because he knew thats not how Jay/he goes out in the end.

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PortableMuskrat
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DHawk314 wrote:
This is entirely the epitome of what people don't understand about Marble Hornets. People always expect Marble Hornets to have a big climactic showdown. It's probably won't though, that is not it's style. Marble Hornets is not even traditional horror, there's no blood or guts or very many jumps scares. It's a small, subtle, atmospheric horror. Plus, it strives for a strong air of realism. A big climactic showdown is not in touch with what Marble Hornets simply does.


I disagree, the endings of season 1 and 2 have both had a climactic feeling.

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Cioger
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Wait a second

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So when Bruce dies, TO takes him to OPy-land, but when Jay dies, TO takes him to Tim's house?


I don't get it...

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ledzepfilm
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Jay was probably propped there to piss off Tim.
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aidansean
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pestoner wrote:
Marble Hornets wrote:
pestoner wrote:
Neroslol wrote:
theyre goal(s)


stopped reading there


Marble Hornets wrote:

I still think Hoody didn't kill himself, that moving his hand was just a reaction to seeing tim swinging a pipe at him.



like he climbed out that window thinking he could hang around there for some time?and then he heard tim grabbing that pipe and was like "i dont want him to hit my hands,ill just let go of myself grabbing this Windows Frame and fall off!"
???


He didn't climb out of the window

he was teleported to it by the operator. remember tim hanging from a tree in entry 65?



just rewatched 65,havent seen tim hanging from a tree?!


I think they're talking about 2:35. To me it looks like something (the operator) is pulling on Tim and he's holding onto the tree to stop this from happening. We can already see he's being dragged immediately beforehand.

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Girlwholovesherelves
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What if...

What if this entry happened around the time when Tim passed out in Entry 81? Maybe that's why there's nothing on the twitter about it and there doesn't seem to be any subtext to it. He went into his Masky phase after he passed out and then all this happened. Somewhere though, he managed to be Tim again when he refused the mask and had his memories of what happened wiped. Hoody or The Operator must have taken the tape and posted the video on their youtube as a message.

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aidansean
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Re: What if...

Girlwholovesherelves wrote:
What if this entry happened around the time when Tim passed out in Entry 81? Maybe that's why there's nothing on the twitter about it...


Tim tweeted about it on Thursday.

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Re: Hoody/Jay Theory

karalynnp123 wrote:
What if Hoody isn't future Jay, but past Jay? I'm not saying I fully, 100% support the idea of Jay being Hoody in any way, but IF he was, it doesn't make sense to me for Hoody to be "Jay from the future." It makes more sense if he's Jay from the past. There are lots of times in season 1/early episodes when Jay is just starting to film himself where he makes Jumps in time (Entry 15, Entry 24) where he has no recollection. So what if in Entry 15, when Tim/Masky shows up in Jays room while he's sleeping and takes him away, that was the first time that Tim/Masky recruited Jay/Hoody. What if thats why Hoody is so obsessed with getting Masky back. In his eye's it's Tim's fault he's hoody, and now it's Tim'f fault Jay is dead.

I mean to me, Hoody looked kind of surprised/in awe when he was looking at Jay laying there dead, on the floor (well i mean as shocked as you can be for someone wearing a mask).What if there was just a tiny sliver of recognition of himself on the floor and he realizes that he (Hoody) is looking at his future self (dead Jay). idk if anyone has come up with this theory before, but thats just what I thought. And maybe thats why Hoody knew he could let go of the ledge...because he knew thats not how Jay/he goes out in the end.


This. So much this!
I don't like hoodie=future Jay theories but that past Jay theory at least is logical. Although I still don't believe hoodie has anything to do with being Jay, but your theory is an interesting one.

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Past Jay makes far less sense. He would have to be a hybrid of a past and future Jay, as he's still travelling into the future, unless he's an alternate timeline version of Jay, which is even more confusing and begs the question of why there is an alternate timeline involved. But you say he's scared he saw himself die, so he is therefore Past-Jay travelling into the future before... going back to be himself again...? And how is he doing all this time travelling? If there is no time travel or alternate timeline, then Past Jay can't exist. Also Future Jay at least explains how Hoody always is able to get into the MH account, even when Jay is miles away and also how Hoody knew the safe combination and was able to be in the right place at the right time so often. Past Jay wouldn't explain any of this. If anything, he should be even less in the know than Present Jay.

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Re: What if...

Girlwholovesherelves wrote:
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What if this entry happened around the time when Tim passed out in Entry 81? Maybe that's why there's nothing on the twitter about it and there doesn't seem to be any subtext to it. He went into his Masky phase after he passed out and then all this happened. Somewhere though, he managed to be Tim again when he refused the mask and had his memories of what happened wiped. Hoody or The Operator must have taken the tape and posted the video on their youtube as a message.

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That might be interesting, but then wouldn't Tim have uploaded this before Entry #82?

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