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RingmasterJ5 · Boot Joined: 12 Mar 2014 Posts: 58

Wouldn't having little messages like that in the WAV make it unreadable as a C64 file? Maybe we'll eventually uncover a direct recording from one of these pages.

**Posted:** Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:31 pm

FrogFractals · Greenhorn Joined: 12 Mar 2014 Posts: 3

BubbleBoy

Holy Sound Warning, Batman! Almost woke up the neighbor's dog with that one. Smile

**Posted:** Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:48 pm

FrogFractals · Greenhorn Joined: 12 Mar 2014 Posts: 3

**Posted:** Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:11 am

RingmasterJ5 · Boot Joined: 12 Mar 2014 Posts: 58

I seem to have got it to work, by changing the machine in the advanced settings to Vic-20, and running it in Vice's V20-specific emulator.

I have absolutely zero idea how to use these things, though, it just keeps giving me a syntax error.

**Posted:** Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:26 am

Foreverodd · Greenhorn Joined: 12 Mar 2014 Posts: 4

I got the TAP file produced from the sped up WAV to run on a C64 emulator, but it just does nothing, then it halts. I'm not really sure what to make of it. If you look at it in a text editor, it is just a bunch of ascii symbols. Doesn't look like anything. We are missing something vital to this thing.

**Posted:** Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:46 am

eightbit · Kilroy Joined: 13 Mar 2014 Posts: 1

Don't know if it's related, but the html source code for frog fractions has a dating sim thing that doesn't seem to be mentioned anywhere else : http://twinbeard.com/511-less-than-slash-three

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Oh, and I tried to extract the youtube audio convert to wav and then to .tap and load it using a c64 emulator but it loads and crashes to a flashing ready. prompt so I think I'm doing something wrong.

**Posted:** Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:30 am

RingmasterJ5 · Boot Joined: 12 Mar 2014 Posts: 58

**Posted:** Thu Mar 13, 2014 7:07 am

MD1500 · Boot Joined: 04 Nov 2006 Posts: 52 Location: England

So, its interesting that C64 Video is uploaded by Kernal Mandelbrot

KERNAL is related to the C64's Operating System http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KERNAL

Mandelbrot is a famous fractal - known for its shape like a bug (tie in with both frogs and fractions), and brot is also the German word for Bread......

**Posted:** Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:03 pm

mechtroid · Kilroy Joined: 12 Mar 2014 Posts: 2

**Posted:** Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:35 pm

bozu · Boot Joined: 12 Mar 2014 Posts: 13

What about the 'hit counter' message in the original video? The bread pages have hit counters, but they all seem to be linked to an external hit counter site, which doesn't seem to be part of the game.

**Posted:** Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:03 pm

bozu · Boot Joined: 12 Mar 2014 Posts: 13

Here's something interesting. The Brainfuck code that's on all the Twinbread pages makes reference to a particular brainfuck interpreter. That interpreter accepts stdin...

There are some seemingly random characters at the bottom of the message that is displayed, but changing stdin changes what those characters are.

It seems that the program reads 13 characters of input, but I think the first two characters are ignored. Here's an example:
in: QQaaaaaaaaaaa
out: _LMMN_LMMN_
in: ZZbbbbbbbbbbb
out: `MNNO`MNNO`

It looks like we need a 13 character code to uncover what that 11 character message is.

**Posted:** Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:36 pm

RingmasterJ5 · Boot Joined: 12 Mar 2014 Posts: 58

**Posted:** Thu Mar 13, 2014 7:21 pm

Foreverodd · Greenhorn Joined: 12 Mar 2014 Posts: 4

Okay guys, I figured out what our brainfuck code is doing. It ignores the first two char (as previously stated. It uses those to increment and array counter by 1 or something), then it takes the remaining 11 and output the ascii value of that char - 21, with slight variations.

so TESTESTESTT gives us

S = Q (S - 2)
T = ? ( T - 21)
T = @ ( T - 21 + 1)
E = 1 (E - 21 + 1)
S = @ (S - 21 + 2)
T = R ( T - 2 )
T = ? (T - 21)
E = 1 (E - 21 + 1)
S = ? (S - 21 + 1)
T = A ( T - 21 + 2)
T = R (T - 2)

== Q?@1@R?1?AR

Maybe we can use this algorithm to reverse out a solution? Idk, this will at least help

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I have another thing that might be a clue. Mandelbrot is a famous Mathematician. (actually coined the phrase "fractals"). The poem from the "recipie13.html" is an excerpt from a poem by Omar Khayy�m, who is a famous Persian philosopher and mathematician. There is a lot of math stuff going on here. I think that is a good place to hone in on when looking for clues.

**Posted:** Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:16 pm

aklreaxmer · Veteran Joined: 25 Sep 2013 Posts: 78

Are you using the brainfuck.tk interpreter? When I input 'TESTESTESTT', the output is:

Q?1?AC>@@��

**Posted:** Thu Mar 13, 2014 9:23 pm