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shy lil derp
Boot

Joined: 03 Feb 2011
Posts: 16

Man, I haven't been on these forums in forever. The power of Frog Fractions is strong!

Has anyone tried looking at the latest Train Hot Dog more closely? I'm messing around with it right now (no idea what I'm doing, AT ALL) but because the subject of the recording is so focused on audio quality, that seems maybe kinda relevant.

I'm no good at ARGs, but I love playing around with them...I'll do my best to think of something marginally helpful...

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:45 am
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ajbau
Boot

Joined: 27 May 2015
Posts: 67

The following is from NeoGaf:

"I saw someone on another forum mention that the hashes in the HTML comments were changing based on IP address. So, I figured that the hash was the IP address plus some other string concatenated. I wrote some brute forcing code using the hashes I was getting and my IP address and I actually found some matches.

For me at least, each page's hash is being calculated as the MD5 of my IP address concatenated with a single character.

Here are the matches I found for each page:

Index: MD5(IP + 1)
Hours: MD5(IP + 2)
About: MD5(IP + b)
Menu: MD5(IP + z)
Beer: MD5(IP + a)
Privacy: MD5(IP + y)
Admin: MD5(IP + x)

Can somebody else confirm that the hashes you're seeing match this pattern?

So all the extra letters are:
12bzayx

Maybe these can be unscrambled for the username and/or password?"


PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:20 am
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MealtimeStrategy
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Joined: 30 Sep 2015
Posts: 6

ajbau wrote:
The following is from NeoGaf:

"I saw someone on another forum mention that the hashes in the HTML comments were changing based on IP address. So, I figured that the hash was the IP address plus some other string concatenated. I wrote some brute forcing code using the hashes I was getting and my IP address and I actually found some matches.

For me at least, each page's hash is being calculated as the MD5 of my IP address concatenated with a single character.

Here are the matches I found for each page:

Index: MD5(IP + 1)
Hours: MD5(IP + 2)
About: MD5(IP + b)
Menu: MD5(IP + z)
Beer: MD5(IP + a)
Privacy: MD5(IP + y)
Admin: MD5(IP + x)

Can somebody else confirm that the hashes you're seeing match this pattern?

So all the extra letters are:
12bzayx

Maybe these can be unscrambled for the username and/or password?"


The initials of those Ashby Brewery pages in the NeoGAF post above almost spell out "Amphibian", other than the missing N (perhaps a "News" page is yet to come?!)

That has to be significant in some way, right? As in the password could be:

(IP+b) (IP+z) (IP+y) (IP+2) (IP+1) (IP+a) (IP+1) (IP+b) followed by (IP+whatever the MD5 value of "N"/News/the N page is)

I'm not a member over on GAF but hopefully the guy sees this!

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:38 am
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Irregular Programming
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Joined: 31 May 2014
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ajbau wrote:
The following is from NeoGaf:

"I saw someone on another forum mention that the hashes in the HTML comments were changing based on IP address. So, I figured that the hash was the IP address plus some other string concatenated. I wrote some brute forcing code using the hashes I was getting and my IP address and I actually found some matches.

For me at least, each page's hash is being calculated as the MD5 of my IP address concatenated with a single character.

Here are the matches I found for each page:

Index: MD5(IP + 1)
Hours: MD5(IP + 2)
About: MD5(IP + b)
Menu: MD5(IP + z)
Beer: MD5(IP + a)
Privacy: MD5(IP + y)
Admin: MD5(IP + x)

Can somebody else confirm that the hashes you're seeing match this pattern?

So all the extra letters are:
12bzayx

Maybe these can be unscrambled for the username and/or password?"


The only thing those letters makes me think of is the SNES controller, the n64 had a Z button aswell but I doubt this is relevant.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:59 am
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MealtimeStrategy
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Joined: 30 Sep 2015
Posts: 6

Irregular Programming wrote:

The only thing those letters makes me think of is the SNES controller, the n64 had a Z button aswell but I doubt this is relevant.


Neither of those controllers had a 1 or 2 button and the SNES had no Z button.
I think the letters and numbers are more likely abstract placeholders for numerical values (like in equations) that need to be added to one's IP address for the unique password that works for any given user.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:06 pm
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Zaratustra
Boot

Joined: 08 Oct 2004
Posts: 15

Maybe the password is simply "abxyz12"?

Although you'd think it'd be "abcxyz12", or even "abcxyz123".

Hm. AMPHIBIAN has nine letters. Are we missing a second page that starts with I as well?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:25 pm
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MealtimeStrategy
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Joined: 30 Sep 2015
Posts: 6

Zaratustra wrote:
Maybe the password is simply "abxyz12"?

Although you'd think it'd be "abcxyz12", or even "abcxyz123".

Hm. AMPHIBIAN has nine letters.


You're right in it being likely to be a combination of abcxyz123, and with the two A's and two I's (One missing, as you say, either C or 3 depending which is N) it gives possible combinations of:

bzy21acx3
bzy2ca1x3
xzy21acb3
xzy2ca1b3
bzy23a1xc
bzy21a3xc
xzy23a1bc
xzy21a3bc


to spell out AMPHIBIAN... (I may have missed some, first time ARGing and am getting "snowblnd" to the letters and numbers! Coffee then I'll look afresh at it Very Happy)

I'm right in thinking nobody's worked out a login other than the "admin/admin" one the other day, yes?

edit: Seeing as it's kind of a rookie error to leave "admin/admin" in an ARG, I thought perhaps it's a clue that login and password are to be the same, especially as that brings up the ? error rather than "Bad login". I tried all the possibilities above to no avail, just to save anyone else's time trying exactly that!

double edit: Removed combinations ending in 1, as we know that N cannot be 1 if one of the I's already is! Silly me xD

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:43 pm
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FriedGoat
Kilroy

Joined: 30 Sep 2015
Posts: 2

http://decaytruth.info/home/tbeard/public_html/arg/dti/

You forgot this page, I think it also has an MD5, could this be the missing letter?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 1:47 pm
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Vanke
Kilroy

Joined: 30 Sep 2015
Posts: 1

as for the admin/admin spitting back admin?

if the username and password are the same it will spit back what you wrote in with a question mark.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 2:43 pm
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Irregular Programming
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FriedGoat wrote:
http://decaytruth.info/home/tbeard/public_html/arg/dti/

You forgot this page, I think it also has an MD5, could this be the missing letter?


This is just 1 again.

Quote:
As Ashby's reputation for creating high quality beer spread, so did the legends that surrounded the man himself. Ashby was notoriously long-lived, having reached the laudable age of 122 before retiring from public life in spite of his youthful appearance. When asked by a young Mark Twain what had been the secret to his success, Ashby famously declared, "I bring you a message of great importance!" The author didn't know what to make of this, and the legend of the Ashby Brewery grew.


This is probably a reference from the kickstarter video btw.

https://youtu.be/P48lSsS6h2M?t=202

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 2:47 pm
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Zaratustra
Boot

Joined: 08 Oct 2004
Posts: 15

Hmm..

https://twitter.com/mogwai_poet/status/648770622047195136

Quote:

Bisp ‏@hanmik01 Sep 29
@mogwai_poet I forgot my login for this page http://decaytruth.info/admin.php what was it again?

Jim Crawford
‏@mogwai_poet
@hanmik01 I believe it was bisp/bisp? You might have to call tech support.

Bisp ‏@hanmik01 Sep 29
@mogwai_poet lol... I contacted tech support.. they told me you changed the admin/admin code to make me dig deeper. My shovel is broken ..


PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 3:02 pm
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MealtimeStrategy
Greenhorn

Joined: 30 Sep 2015
Posts: 6

Just a quick heads-up for daveisok over on NeoGAF as he's reading over here and my GAF account has never been approved so can't reply to him there (been waiting for about 4 years so I guess it ain't gonna ever happen!)

There are two A's, each with a different letter (x and b) so it probably means that both I's are different letters too (One being 1, the other probably being either c or 3, depending what N is) rather than both being 1 as in your post!

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 3:39 pm
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dangerskew
Boot

Joined: 01 Sep 2015
Posts: 68

Link to the Neogaf thread where this is being discussed? I've got a Junior account; took like 3 months to be approved a year or two ago, but I registered with a .edu email address which surely helped.

Edit: Nevermind, found it. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1117771&highlight=frog+fractions&page=3

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dave is ok
Boot

Joined: 30 Sep 2015
Posts: 18

Thanks Mealtime, I edited my post over there.

As someone who hasn't been following this thing since the start were these things ever figured out/used?

http://time-travel.club/accesslevelbeta.php
DangerSparkles

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:22 pm
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MealtimeStrategy
Greenhorn

Joined: 30 Sep 2015
Posts: 6

I had a funny, unlikely and wildly speculative thought the other day...

You know the narrative of the two timelines?
And the joke about Frog Fractions 1 being Frog Fractions 2?
And you know the Internet Wayback Machine over at archive.org?

It would be the damn coolest thing ever if one of the 65 instances of the Frog Fractions 1 page archived on the Wayback Machine between January 2013 and the present date actually lead to FF2 Laughing

PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:26 pm
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