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[VIDEO] Entry #84
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twistedpuppet
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So, this means people can now shut the fuck up with that future-jay bullshit, right? Please tell me that it doesn't have to still be beaten into some people when the narrative makes it abundantly fucking clear who Hoody is?

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Oransel
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I like this entry. I think it was emotional and was great in terms of character development.

I don't know why some people are surprised by lack of solid proof: Marble Hornets is a series based on mysteries, supernatural (possibly) and deception where almost nothing is confirmed. Any entry may be doctored, any character may be lying, any event may be connected to supernatural force.

There are things that we all agree upon (Tim is Masky, Jay lost his house, Alex is a murderer...) because these things have been mentioned more than once, but most things are still up to speculation. This is a reason why there are so many game-changing and meta theories present within fanbase - we have lack of solid facts to work with.

This situation may be good or bad, depending on how you view it, but I don't know why you'd call this entry garbage without calling whole series as garbage. You just have to accept that there is a very high chance that 80% of questions wouldn't be answered by the end of the series.

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lonsumtravlr wrote:
itookthesquare wrote:
So far it's been two things. Brian was crazy since he met Tim and Tim has always been crazy (Because of T.O), however Alex's birthday video when he was a child has T.O in it and that's where it lies confusion. Brian's house was wrecked long after this tape. We found one closet with a bed that we believe Masky was sleeping in since he was found there. But what lead to it? Was Brian the first to become inflicted with the Slendysickness? It already seems that Alex's casting didn't go so well since Sara and Seth were the only other cast members we've seen. Amy being his gf years after and missing since God knows how long. We have to keep our heads in the oblivion.


That's a good point: Who wrecked Brian's house? Or did Brian and Tim just, for lack of better terms, sink into "crazy"?

Enttry #37 is even stranger, because TO is clearly (at least to me and to many other posters) edited into that tape as if to cast suspicion upon Alex for having some early relationship with him. If Tim was likely the first of the MH crew to be stalked by TO and Brian was brought into something unfolding thanks to Alex's movie project, then what would be the motive to make Alex appear to have been marked by TO so much earlier? Or did it make sense for Brian (and Tim?) to do so during Season 2 but then after Tim started getting better, did revealing Tim's medical history somehow make sense to Brian?


Seems to make Entry #84 less trustworthy then... somehow... because something's still not adding up. Only four more entries at most, likely. How will any of these ends get tied up? I realize not all of them will, can, or even should.


It could be that it was a premonition of days to come. It looked like Alex posted a lot of crazy videos about what happened. Where Tim seemed fine growing up (if he had his meds or not - in this video he didn't cough himself up a storm BUT he was very anxious and uneasy). There seems to be a tie about the "camera" because when Amy picked up the camera when we finally found out about Alex's whereabouts at the end of Season 1, T.O appeared again and chased them out of the house with the pages blowing up in our faces. It's really aiming towards Alex's dastardly plan at something we don't know yet.


Edit: It seems like "The Ring" if anything. (Spreading T.O curse to strangers so let's pick them off so it doesn't spread more, but whoops)

Or "The Village" (It was all planned for the better but it's best if you live with it)

Aka.. "WHATATWIST" ~ M Night Shylamamadingdong

Edit 2: I'm pretty sure when Alex meets up with Tim there's going to be dialogue that will shed some more light because even though Hoodie is revealed, there are even more questions than answers.

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knightmare wrote:
Thought:

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It sounds a lot like the Tim we've come to know is like the character from Marble Hornets the IG student film (sideburns, kinda cool and aloof.) I don't know if that means anything, but in this video, Tim seems a lot more timid.


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"Tim seems a lot more TIMid." Razz


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lonsumtravlr wrote:


Enttry #37 is even stranger, because TO is clearly (at least to me and to many other posters) edited into that tape as if to cast suspicion upon Alex for having some early relationship with him. If Tim was likely the first of the MH crew to be stalked by TO and Brian was brought into something unfolding thanks to Alex's movie project, then what would be the motive to make Alex appear to have been marked by TO so much earlier? Or did it make sense for Brian (and Tim?) to do so during Season 2 but then after Tim started getting better, did revealing Tim's medical history somehow make sense to Brian?


Maybe revealing his history was ment to be a sighn of look I know what's going on and that it was going on for a while, trust me. And prehaps this is just guess since Brian knew Tim for so long maybe he knew about it and was hinting that it was him to Tim.

Also with getting better maybe still going with what I think, since he was off camera or not trying to change or pay too much atention to the events he was able to play the role that OP wanted him to. But once he started to get involved again and thinking about his life and what has been going on, OP wasn't able to do much against him so he felt worse.

Also adding to my previous post maybe the ark is a way for all to be normal without using masks or what not. And maybe someone knows it and they all want to find the ark or a way to break away from OPs influence.

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Mhmm, this is definetly a „dunno" entry.

Great was the way Brian entered the room, after the long wait, resembling the long built-up for this, and then he just goes in while Tim stays outside. Loved it.
Also loved the fact that Tim, as a shy and unsecure person pre-MH, was shown. That gives room for a „becoming the mask" trope.

For the rest, I dunno.
All those inside jokes made me feel as if this indeed was a April's fool entry.
Really, ...Brian complimenting on those cheesy lines, Tim without his signature sideburns, Tim jumping to conclusions because Brian, 8 years ago, wore a hoody similar to Hoody's hoody. Don't want to say that Brian is not Hoody, but seriously. We (and the characters?) have been guessing on his identity on little things for years. And now this fact, that Brian, on his audition day 8 years ago, wore a similar hoody is the confirmation for Tim. Really? If anyone here on the forum had proposed such a theory he would have been shut down for good*. But Tim says it and and everyone is like "Uuuuuhhh yeeeah, that's reason man!"

Also, why had Hoody that footage? What did it matter to him? I mean, he had it with him the hole time, so there must be something important to him on that tape. To remind him of his good ol' identity? To remind him that Tim needs protection and Alex is unappreciative? Is this tape the nut shell of Hoody's persona and TTA context? Look out for awkward people and lead them to Alex, film random lights as if they were eyes and add in some random environment (or street) shots and some distortion?
I don't know what to make of this.
First TO encounter? So randomly in the middle of a street?** Dunno.
Alex already being a bit self-conscious, although we were lead to believe that was a nice and funny person prior to being stalked by TO. Dunno.
No hint for Hoody himself to remind him of what is going on in case he forgets because of TO? Dunno.
The chestcam breaking so anti-climatic? Dunno.
Well, is did seem damaged at the end of #83, but there could have been some more footage to "break" the camera, instead of it just lying around in Tim's car, filming without reason. Although this hints towards the fact that Tim also started to obsessively film himself at every step. I did not assume as much even after #81. (He seem just to capture his "adventures" into the college.)

Speaking of which, we probably never get any IG reason as to why everyone was at Benedict Hall, or tried to get there. They seem to be done with it, and the only reason it was introduced seemed to be the fact that they were running out of creepy places for Jay to get shot and Hoody to fall from.

So, in respect to how hard I was anticipating the footage from Hoodys tape, I know only got a soft confirm on Hoody=Brian (which could easily be a red herring). Nothing else. Now I have to anticipate #85 and wait for Alex to show up, to make the first present day explanation of his motives since 2011. Which he probably won't. I feel let down. Can someone convince me of this entry, aside from the fan services?

*Except maybe if s/he included that the hoody Brian wore traveled through time.

** We need to figure that 305 out. I doubt they put it there accidentally. I already checked #73 and 75, but was not able to confirm any mail box at Tim's house.

/edit: I could also not confirm any mailbox on Amy's house from #43. Also, I feels as if the building that can vaguely been seen that left side of the street in #84 is only a one story house, whereas the one seen in a similar position in #43 seems to be a two story house. But I'm very unsure of that.

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People bitch when Hoody isn't revealed in an entry. Now, people are bitching when Hoody is revealed in an entry. Jeez.

I think this video was good. I enjoyed the "laid back and cool" nature of Brian and the "socially awkward, one or two friends" nature of Tim, without sideburns.

The Hoody reveal was different. I'm glad they didn't go the route of "OMG TAKE OFF HIS MASK" to actually reveal him instead of that big light flash (ala 83).

Cheesy humor, return of Brian, Hoody reveal, early Tim, sane Alex, and first TO encounter = great entry.
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I also like that it seems as though they are insinuating that Tim basically became his MH character (smokes, facial hair, cool, aloof) outside of the student film.

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Ascalondion wrote:
Can someone convince me of this entry, aside from the fan services?


No, because even on first viewing it does seem a bit too "easy." The traffic light thing bugged me then.

The only problem with the cheesy dialogue is that the thing about Sarah being Brian's "secret" does seem to be a bit too much of a blatant wink back to "Null" on second-plus viewings.

I didn't at all feel let down by it, I think it works, and I either am or am not reading too much into Brian and Tim's interaction based off both some clues IG and some observations made by others OOG, but that doesn't mean I accept the entry without reservations. Still an enjoyable entry.

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knightmare wrote:
I also like that it seems as though they are insinuating that Tim basically became his MH character (smokes, facial hair, cool, aloof) outside of the student film.


That I did like, because he seems to have been sort of raw, unmolded, uncertain of himself at that point as captured on the tape.

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lonsumtravlr wrote:


The only problem with the cheesy dialogue is that the thing about Sarah being Brian's "secret" does seem to be a bit too much of a blatant wink back to "Null" on second-plus viewings.

I didn't at all feel let down by it, I think it works, and I either am or am not reading too much into Brian and Tim's interaction based off both some clues IG and some observations made by others OOG, but that doesn't mean I accept the entry without reservations. Still an enjoyable entry.


Or, it's to emphasize that Alex began as one of those pretentious film school film makers. :V

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granitemoth88 wrote:
Dacad wrote:
I think this video confirms that Jessica is still alive. Tim says three people are dead because of Alex. We know that the man from the tunnel in Entry 49 is dead. Jay is most likely dead, and now Brian is as well. Brian also told us "She's out there".

The real question is, is Jessica still stuck in the Operator's realm, or did she escape? We know that Brian was taken at one point, and he got out, albeit not in the best of health. Same for Jay, Alex, and Tim.



Whoa!!! I didn't even think of that! Maybe Tim knows something we don't? Maybe Jessica will upload the last entry, because I think neither Tim nor Alex will be waking away if they meet face to face again

I can see it now! Very Happy
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Tim and Alex face off and kill each other. Jessica and Amy then climb out of Tim's attic, notices the bodies of Tim and Alex, sees the camera, picks it up, and stumbles outside. Footage cuts off.

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twistedpuppet wrote:
Or, it's to emphasize that Alex began as one of those pretentious film school film makers. :V


Or it could indicate both! Very Happy

A few others on the most recent pages make a good point: If this was a tape that held the value for Brian (assuming he's Hoody) of allowing him to assert his identity should he fall victim to TO, why choose one in which Brian doesn't say his last name? That would be a cheap Memento-like device (and Memento's a movie that seems increasingly cheap after your second obsessive viewing).

As for how Hoody got this tape--I conjectured above that maybe there was some trade-off between Brian and Alex before they ultimately became mutually antagonistic toward each other. Buuuuttt that presumes 1. that Brian is Hoody (which I still believe will hold true even if Entry #84 was an April Fool's) and 2. that Brian may have walked away from the events of Entry #51 on-camera, and as soon as I posted that I realized that I was wrong. But there's the other obvious answer: Hoody's never showed any compunction about doing a B & E.

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The important thing here is that Hoody is definitely Brian, this was a well done and important entry in terms of character development (which, even if it's not the reason you specifically watch this show, is important to the type of story this is), and this is a well written series. Anyone who disagrees with me is wrong.

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Geneaux486 wrote:
The important thing here is that Hoody is definitely Brian, this was a well done and important entry, and this is a well written series. Anyone who disagrees with me is wrong.


You're right on all three, I believe. But even if all that's true, it doesn't downplay any possibility of this being an April Fools-ish entry. There's obviously something very important coming up, and this entry still raises a few questions and could be deflecting some answers by seeming to answer them a bit too neatly (for some on this thread, at least).

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