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[VIDEO] Entry #84
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Malckeor
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In all seriousness, this was a good "before the storm" entry. I'm not sure what to make of Tim adopting the mannerisms of his character from Alex's student film, but I'm glad we at last know Hoody's identity (although it did feel a bit anticlimactic) and got one last emotional reminder of how everyone's lives were before all of the shit began hitting the fan. Rest in peace, Brian, you hooded bastard. We hardly knew ya.

I can't wait for April 4th. I feel that either the series finale is going to be posted, or ToTheArk is going to reveal that he wasn't just Brian and is still very much alive. In this case, I'm betting that TTA will serve as Tim's "deus ex machina" in the final showdown, but I'm preparing myself for a very dark conclusion to this series.

Gentlemen, ladies, friends, juvenile delinquents, it's been an honor discussing Marble Hornets with you over these two years since I came across it. For once, let's join together and hold hands to prepare ourselves and our emotions for what is coming. I PROMISED MYSELF I WOULDN'T CRY!!!

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Ascalondion
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Geneaux486 wrote:
Ascalondion wrote:
But the clue that seals the deal for Tim is the fact that on some 8 year old footage Brian wears a similar piece of clothing.


Well Tim did directly unmask him in Entry 83. Even though we didn't see it through the camera, Tim would have seen it. Did he specifically say he didn't remember anything from those events?


No, he does not. So he could be remembering stuff. But the way he woke up on that field at the end of #83 is indicative of the typical blackouts after which the persons only remember „what is on the tape".

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I knew it...
Spoiler (Rollover to View):

Brian is future Jay!


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Wow what an Entry!

I loved Tim and Jay as a team, but Tim and Brian are just pure badasses!

I highly doubt it's an April Fool's joke because IG it wouldn't make sense for Tim for suddenly say later that it was joke. However, it is possible that the entire video (with how much it reveals to us) is a ploy to trick Alex into a trap Tim is setting up therefore making Alex the "April Fool". Can you imagine Alex coming in and Tim saying, "Joke's on you," then forcing him to spill out his motive?

I'm also glad that we can now look back at previous Hoody encounters and TTA videos and see how many Brian references we can find. We know Tim has no problem in hurting Alex, but Hoody always seemed to hesitate. From this tape we can see that Brian was kind to Alex, but Tim always gave him a slight cold shoulder or a distrustful eye. Even Tim's word choices toward Alex were somewhat bleak.

I even loved the small Slender appearance!

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Dacad wrote:
I agree that it seems ridiculous to identify Hoody based on an article of clothing from years ago. However, I think some people are overlooking the bigger issue: that Hoody would carry that particular tape on him. It doesn't have anything significant, other than Brian being friends with Tim. That is what the reveal was, not the clothing.


I'll give you the article of clothing bit, but what the creators do to re-enforce that this is in fact a reveal, is to have a main character point it out. This has happened several times before and they wanted to make damn sure that you guys knew they were actually revealing hoody to be Brian. The whole pipe incident. Everyone was calling the damn thing a twig until the very next entry where they literally spell it the fuck out for you that it was a pipe Alex beat Tim over the head with.

We already knew a season ago that Tim was friends with Brian. If you didn't know that by now, you haven't been paying attention to the series at all.

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Amazing entry. When Alex told Tim to grow facial hair for the character, that line kept in my head. What if with influence of TO they got "trapped" in their films characters or in the film itself, that could be some sort of explanation for the partial amnesia caused by encounters with TO so they can't remember their "real" identity. I'm anxious to see what will happen on friday since it's Alex's birthday.

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Geneaux486
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Unless Tim specifically says he doesn't remember anything from Entry 83, I think we should assume that he knows Hoody is Brian because he pulled off the mask. He probably waited until entry 84 to address it because he needed time to deal with the realization that not only had one of his only friends been driven mad by the Operator, but that Tim was also indirectly responsible for his death.

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twistedpuppet wrote:
Dacad wrote:
I agree that it seems ridiculous to identify Hoody based on an article of clothing from years ago. However, I think some people are overlooking the bigger issue: that Hoody would carry that particular tape on him. It doesn't have anything significant, other than Brian being friends with Tim. That is what the reveal was, not the clothing.


I'll give you the article of clothing bit, but what the creators do to re-enforce that this is in fact a reveal, is to have a main character point it out. This has happened several times before and they wanted to make damn sure that you guys knew they were actually revealing hoody to be Brian. The whole pipe incident. Everyone was calling the damn thing a twig until the very next entry where they literally spell it the fuck out for you that it was a pipe Alex beat Tim over the head with.

We already knew a season ago that Tim was friends with Brian. If you didn't know that by now, you haven't been paying attention to the series at all.


I think the part that enforces the reveal is the fact that Hoody was carrying around a tape that is mostly about Brian. Yes, the tape has the first (chronologically) instance of TO, but why would that be of interest to Hoody? The bigger thing for Hoody was that this was a reminder of who he was and who Tim was before all the MH/TO madness: Brian was a nice, charming guy and Tim was kinda quiet/shy/unassuming. Everything that happened afterward twisted them into who they are as we've come to know them. Hoody is a crazy guy that has no problem creeping about at night or hiding alone in the maintenance tunnel. Tim becomes the cool, aloof guy that was the character that Alex described.

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knightmare wrote:
twistedpuppet wrote:
Dacad wrote:
I agree that it seems ridiculous to identify Hoody based on an article of clothing from years ago. However, I think some people are overlooking the bigger issue: that Hoody would carry that particular tape on him. It doesn't have anything significant, other than Brian being friends with Tim. That is what the reveal was, not the clothing.


I'll give you the article of clothing bit, but what the creators do to re-enforce that this is in fact a reveal, is to have a main character point it out. This has happened several times before and they wanted to make damn sure that you guys knew they were actually revealing hoody to be Brian. The whole pipe incident. Everyone was calling the damn thing a twig until the very next entry where they literally spell it the fuck out for you that it was a pipe Alex beat Tim over the head with.

We already knew a season ago that Tim was friends with Brian. If you didn't know that by now, you haven't been paying attention to the series at all.


I think the part that enforces the reveal is the fact that Hoody was carrying around a tape that is mostly about Brian. Yes, the tape has the first (chronologically) instance of TO, but why would that be of interest to Hoody? The bigger thing for Hoody was that this was a reminder of who he was and who Tim was before all the MH/TO madness: Brian was a nice, charming guy and Tim was kinda quiet/shy/unassuming. Everything that happened afterward twisted them into who they are as we've come to know them. Hoody is a crazy guy that has no problem creeping about at night or hiding alone in the maintenance tunnel. Tim becomes the cool, aloof guy that was the character that Alex described.


This leads to the most disturbing question of all. Are Tim's sideburns even real or is he going to peel them off his face in the last episode?

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gennerx wrote:
This leads to the most disturbing question of all. Are Tim's sideburns even real or is he going to peel them off his face in the last episode?


Which leads to the most disturbing answer of all: Both are true.

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knightmare wrote:
Tim becomes the cool, aloof guy that was the character that Alex described.


Actually, everyone just becomes the ones they are in Marble Hornets.

Brian becomes a sobbing Creep who keeps on rambling about "his little secret" from some time ago for EVER and ever again. (remember #7?)

Alex becomes a control freak who has to control every action of every other person. If they don't do what he wants, or if they release material that was under NDA, he comes for them!

Jay becomes pretty much a useless guy, who does nothing more than get some tapes sometimes, and on one occasion rewrites Alex's script.

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Also, considering this glimpse we get of Brian, it makes the line in Entry #68, when Alex tells Hoody to "wipe that stupid smile off your face" even funnier, considering he was pretty much grinning during this whole video.

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JAL13
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Ascalondion wrote:
knightmare wrote:
Tim becomes the cool, aloof guy that was the character that Alex described.


Jay becomes pretty much a useless guy, who does nothing more than get some tapes sometimes, and on one occasion rewrites Alex's script.


"You've done nothing but make everything worse!" - Alex

So basically Alex got mad at Jay for ruining his script, inserting himself into the story as the main character, and adding new characters (Jessica). Director's Gone Bad.

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JAL13 wrote:
Ascalondion wrote:
knightmare wrote:
Tim becomes the cool, aloof guy that was the character that Alex described.


Jay becomes pretty much a useless guy, who does nothing more than get some tapes sometimes, and on one occasion rewrites Alex's script.


"You've done nothing but make everything worse!" - Alex

So basically Alex got mad at Jay for ruining his script, inserting himself into the story as the main character, and adding new characters (Jessica). Director's Gone Bad.


MH solved. TO is just the ghost of bad screen writing.

On a more serious note.
Question: When did Brian became Hoody? After the events of #51 or before? If after, does #13 take place after #51? Does Alex show any signs of his decay in #13?
If Brian was Hoody already before the events of #51, that could explain #13 a bit better, but #51 a bit less. This would also have huge implications on who actually was responsible for TO showing up at MH.

/typo edit
/edit: Ueh, I forgot to mention, when I was talking about #13, I actually had Exit in my mind.

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Operator wanted to erase himself and didn't know what was real and what was fiction and fucked up everyone's life by inserting their marble hornets characters into their head. Says fuck it resets everything by splitting up everyone and ending the movie. Time who TO knew beforehand is mostly reset to normal, Jay is mostly not effected and Alex got lucky...everyone else was too gone to fix.

Entry #1 Jay begins to reopen old wounds and TO is forced to recruit Alex to try and stop it.

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