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[VIDEO] Entry #84
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Coolbro Swaggins
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Betting hard on Skully = a thing and Seth = Skully.

It would open up answers for a lot of things and possibly explain a couple of TTA entries, not to mention the inexplicable Skully shot from 26.

I know most people seem to discredit it, but after the hole in 21 popped up 50 entries later the only real conclusion I can make is that Skully is either a 3rd masked man or it's beta!Hoody.

As for Seth as a member of TTA, I think it'd explain a couple of things. Maybe I'm reading too deep into things, but:

-The video "Advocate" and focus on Brian's face implies he might be following rather than leading.
-Seth was on during filming of Entry 9, which was when TTA first responded to a video. In addition, the TTA theme of the video was "LOOK CLOSELY", which could reference Seth being the cameraman.
-Entry 22 was remarkably different from Alex's ambushes, and something seems to have actually happened there that separates itself from 51 and 56.
-Of course, there are several points of unknown footage shown besides just Skully. The quick flash of Alex in the basement seems (to me) imply things went absolutely bat**** at some point towards the end of Alex's initial rampage.
-Somebody was filming in Exit. Unless Brian went nuts before him being taken, I think it was Seth filming Jay. Alex was off doing weird things and Tim wasn't filming by that point, as far as we know.

It's also possible Seth WAS Skully and died somewhere around 22's timeline, which could be the motivation for Brian and TTA as a whole and would explain why he hasn't appeared.

These are all little details, but tiny details have been brought up a lot IG.

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twistedpuppet
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Someone explain to me this skully thing because I have never once seen this supposed "skully".

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Coolbro Swaggins
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twistedpuppet wrote:
Someone explain to me this skully thing because I have never once seen this supposed "skully".


http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd74/argorok2346/Frame4.png

Quick flash from 26. I remember some people said it could be a drawing, but in the quick instance Skully is visible you can see brief movement.

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twistedpuppet
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Coolbro Swaggins wrote:
twistedpuppet wrote:
Someone explain to me this skully thing because I have never once seen this supposed "skully".


http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd74/argorok2346/Frame4.png

Quick flash from 26. I remember some people said it could be a drawing, but in the quick instance Skully is visible you can see brief movement.


Looks like it's just an early form of Hoody. Same tan hoody. Disregarding since he hasn't made any kind of appearance after that brief second or two in 26.

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lonsumtravlr wrote:
I'm just curious, even though this might not be the most appropriate forum, but why do you see Entry #74 as a "fuck up"? Entry #76 I certainly agree with you, as it seems poorly made all around and like an idea that probably seemed better before it was actually written out and filmed.


It was the perfect example of breaking the "show, don't tell" rule. Ever since Entry #72 ended, I predicted Jay would become completely delirious and Tim would have to look out for him. I was highly anticipating seeing that. It would've been a big turnaround, considering Jay's our protagonist and it was also an opportunity to show how much TO is capable of messing people up.

Instead we get Tim talking about how Jay had been out of it. This particular line of conversation not even lasting very long. They gave up what would have been a dramatic change in dynamic in favour of an entry where Tim buys food and Jay sits on a bed being irritatingly grumpy.

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twistedpuppet
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TheOperator wrote:
lonsumtravlr wrote:
I'm just curious, even though this might not be the most appropriate forum, but why do you see Entry #74 as a "fuck up"? Entry #76 I certainly agree with you, as it seems poorly made all around and like an idea that probably seemed better before it was actually written out and filmed.


It was the perfect example of breaking the "show, don't tell" rule. Ever since Entry #72 ended, I predicted Jay would become completely delirious and Tim would have to look out for him. I was highly anticipating seeing that. It would've been a big turnaround, considering Jay's our protagonist and it was also an opportunity to show how much TO is capable of messing people up.

Instead we get Tim talking about how Jay had been out of it. This particular line of conversation not even lasting very long. They gave up what would have been a dramatic change in dynamic in favour of an entry where Tim buys food and Jay sits on a bed being irritatingly grumpy.


I thought this was the thread for Entry 84 and that we were supposed to be discussing Entry 84.

We have an entire thread dedicated to your topic. I have provided the link for you here:

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=37451

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aidansean
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In case anyone's interested I put up a timeline for Brian/Hoody/Broody on the infographics thread.

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Wondertje
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I'm late to the party because I haven't been keeping track of the uploads, but here's my take on the latest entry.

OMG Awesome..
OMG foetus Alex, how cute!
OMG no one came to his auditions *heart breaks a little*
Oh wow, Brian and Tim - without sideburns, how rare!
Oh, this is getting disappointing.
Really, that's it?

To be honest, it started out as a good entry but I don't like the way they wrapped it up. It lacks sincerity and any show of emotion that I would like to see. Also, it's probably the biggest anti-climax reveal of a character I've seen in a very long time. I definitely would've prefered the more sped-up, chaotic reveal they could've given us in the previous entry - but that's just an opinion, both ways are possible.

I'm curious as to what we should read into it and what we shouldn't. The way Alex described Tim's character was really spot on as to how we've grown to know out-side-of-MH-"OoMH Tim" over the years and that did catch my attention. The sighting of TO is interesting since it might be the very first one - and the fact that Alex noticed how the camera started screwing up is at the very least very interesting - was TO not as smooth back then with his power? Has he developed more finess over these years to keep people from noticing the cameras acting strange?

All in all, I'm not super happy, but also I can't really complain too much. But I do have high hopes for the continuation of this, as we're getting close to the reveal of the "great masterplan" - because I sure hope there is one. Otherwise I'd be like Shocked
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lonsumtravlr
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twistedpuppet wrote:
I thought this was the thread for Entry 84 and that we were supposed to be discussing Entry 84.

We have an entire thread dedicated to your topic. I have provided the link for you here:

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=37451


That's very nice of you, but I only had one quick question about that, and it was raised as I read TheOperator's longer post about missed opportunities in the season three entries since about Entry #72, of which Entry #84 is apparenty symptomatic, and my question was answered satisfactorily. So thanks!

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ReverendJ
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Maybe he kept the tape to remind himself that he was the one who pressed Tim to audition.

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3tp
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hey, the comments got disabled. huh, i guess tim made a mistake or something

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ReverendJ
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Not the first MH video to not have comments left on for a tiny bit. It happens.

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twistedpuppet wrote:
Coolbro Swaggins wrote:
twistedpuppet wrote:
Someone explain to me this skully thing because I have never once seen this supposed "skully".


http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd74/argorok2346/Frame4.png

Quick flash from 26. I remember some people said it could be a drawing, but in the quick instance Skully is visible you can see brief movement.


Looks like it's just an early form of Hoody. Same tan hoody. Disregarding since he hasn't made any kind of appearance after that brief second or two in 26.


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HallowedHollow wrote:
Watching this entry makes me sad. Seeing Alex so young, carefree, and naive. The only worry in his little world is people not showing up to audition for your student film (which totally happens XD). He's trying to be cool. He walks like a dork. He's red faced and lacks facial hair. Full of life.

Fast forward a few years and he's killed a man with a rock, his another with a lead pipe, lead numbers to their demise, and shot his friend. Just thinking of the trauma that had to happen to a human being to get him from point A to point B kind of reignites the shivers of the operator. I think everyone agrees he's no longer as scary (as much) now that we're "desensitized". But seeing what he did to Alex, Tim, Jay, and Hoody is very sobering and a little frightening.

Enough of that. My theory regarding all of this. Tim is the only one with DID (Dissociative Identity Disorder or what people are calling a "masky state"), that he developed as a child to cope with The Operator (Masky is his big brother of sorts. Is strong against TO when he can't be). Oppy used Tim (not Masky) to do a number of things (remember a certain fire in a certain hospital?), but after a while, Tim started "getting better". Friends, pills, counseling, and even Masky were effective in keeping TO influence at bay. TO needed someone new. This Entry was TO finding that someone. Someone fresh. Someone "untainted". Alex shoots MH. Things go downhill. Alex is still TO's pawn. Every time we were seeing Masky, he wasn't under Oppy's influence, but just suffering the side effects of everything he'd been through.

By the time Jay rolled around, Alex had already hit Tim with a lead pipe, and Tim had seen TO a number of times via Alex. Now, Tim is the only one able to stand up against TO, in part because he's dealt with him for so long. Whereas Masky was his "big brother protector" against the horror before, now (as evidenced when he stood up to him for Jay), Tim can do it on his own. He doesn't need Masky anymore. Hoodie (assuming he's Brian), can more or less control Masky using his anti-Operator sentiments (the reason he was born) to do things via slight manipulation. Getting him to do the leg work for kidnapping Jessica, etc. He wanted Tim to go back. Masky is more of a fighter than Tim, or at least Hoody thought so. Not anymore. Tim is a fighter. It's showdown time. He's waiting for Alex. Tim is the only one that can stand against the operator.

TL;DR: Alex fell, Jay fell, and even Brian fell. Tim fell for a time, but he was the only one who picked himself up in this battle against TO. He can do this. GO TIM! ^__^


That was beautiful. *sniff*

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ziggazern
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Hey guys, something I thought I'd mention upon my second viewing.

1) Tim reads the note on the door first, then looks through the window. I cannot make what the note says. In any case, this is probably not of much importance.

2) There is a visual tearing immediately before Tim's audition is cut off(I am assuming that Tim on-purposelessly cut it off). It also wouldn't make sense for the footage to be cut off with the purpose of saving time for us viewers, since it is made clear that Alex has 'had enough' pretty quickly with Tim's audition. This, I theorize, was the first ever camera anomaly Alex had, the first initial 'handshake' that brought the chronic encounters with TO as seen shortly later that same night.

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