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[VIDEO] Entry #84
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SeantheStone
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Contrary to popular opinion, I actually liked the reveal. It feels very season 1, and since Tim is starting to gain some of Jay's characteristics, it feels appropriate. Jay used to give important information exclusively through outro text, and after all Tim's endured, I don't know what I would expect from a reaction. He's just lost Jay, Alex is closing in on him, and his best friend that he assumed to be dead or missing (I don't remember which) is a manipulative spectator that indirectly caused Jay's death...and is also dead. At this point, I think things have gone so far that Tim is experiencing delayed emotion until this is all over. He will probably end up committed again due to the mental and emotional trauma that this has caused, but he doesn't have time for that right now.

TheOperator wrote:
...hacking, high-end video editing skills or a good enough knowledge of Jessica to know she'd use 1102 as a password/combination...


The way I see it, Brian works perfectly as Hoodie. Considering Jay came across as someone who was defeated by child-proof bottles, password was probably solved by brute-force in the time it took him to eat a granola bar. Video editing skills can be picked up by anyone who has time to dedicate themselves and use tutorials, along with practice. Time seemed to be all he had for a while. For the Jessica code, they agreed on it in Entry #52, which meant that there was time for Hoody to view the footage before the code was left. Brian, unlike Tim, didn't return to a normal life after Alex's attack, so his stealth became necessary, especially since he was following around the guy who tried to kill him. It's been years since Brian was taken, and he didn't even become relevant as Hoody for a while after that. His time was devoted to a narrow set of activities, so he became masterful at all of them.

EDIT: I spelled the name different almost every time.

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BetaPix
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What does Tim say at 5:53? He says something before Alex says "great", but I really don't understand.

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Sidenote
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BetaPix wrote:
What does Tim say at 5:53? He says something before Alex says "great", but I really don't understand.


"If you insist"

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Osttle
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So they did just shave their faces

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Janthran
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I'm not gonna lie, I'm disappointed that it's not future Jay.
That doesn't mean I'm going to continue saying it is, though.

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SilentMedusa
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Osttle wrote:
So they did just shave their faces


According to their latest podcast, that's exactly what they did. As well as chuckling over the way some people speculated on how long ago they filmed this entry. Very Happy

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ReverendJ
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Jsor wrote:
In fact, it's likely that Alex simply turned the camera off until Tim was ready to audition so he didn't waste tape.
Before anyone questions it, yes this was before he went all record everything crazy so this is plausible.

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Argoz
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I just watched this entry, and HOLY FUCK, THIS WAS GREAT. This supports my case that Season 3 is the best entry of Marble Hornets to date. They managed to make the worst character in the entire series completely likable, have extremely natural and realistic character interactions, and they managed to give us some more history in the making of the Marble Hornets film without it just being extremely annoying, low-quality videos where nothing happens except someone running around a field for 5 minutes. This is my new favorite of this season, and one of my favorites from the entire series! If I do have one complaint though, it's that they could have handled the revelation of Hoody's identity a lot better. It just felt a little formulaic, with Tim making the connection rather than the audience. What they should have done instead is perhaps given us small hints throughout the video that would have the viewer making connections to Hoody's past appearances in the series. Like, maybe, have the hoodie Brian was wearing a little more obvious, but not too obvious. Also, maybe having him cough once or twice that would reverberate in the room (it looked pretty empty), that would audibly sound very similar to the entries where Hoody's coughing in the abandoned buildings. Eh, I don't know. I just feel it could've been done better. Sorry about fangirling a bit in this review, but as you can tell, I REALLY liked this entry.

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Ascalondion
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Has anyone got something out of this 305 mailbox?
I've tried to go through the houses appearances in #16, #18, #23, #43, #45, #48, #50, #54, #68, #71, #72, #75, #77 and #78 and see for any indicators for their mail number, or whether they have such a mail box. But I found nothing. The medical records from #60.5 have also no address data.

I also checked Jays room number from the hotel in season 2, but nothing.

The closest thing I've found is the scene from #75 in which Tim and Jay "sneak" to Tim's house, around 2:50 until 3:20. It features very common mailboxes, similar to the one seen in #84. But then again, I guess there are common, and I doubt there is an intended reference to #75.

So, anyone with more luck?

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lonsumtravlr
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Ascalondion wrote:
Has anyone got something out of this 305 mailbox?
I've tried to go through the houses appearances in #16, #18, #23, #43, #45, #48, #50, #54, #68, #71, #72, #75, #77 and #78 and see for any indicators for their mail number, or whether they have such a mail box. But I found nothing. The medical records from #60.5 have also no address data.

I also checked Jays room number from the hotel in season 2, but nothing.

The closest thing I've found is the scene from #75 in which Tim and Jay "sneak" to Tim's house, around 2:50 until 3:20. It features very common mailboxes, similar to the one seen in #84. But then again, I guess there are common, and I doubt there is an intended reference to #75.

So, anyone with more luck?


Only thing that comes to mind--and this won't really be helpful--is a play off the "four is death" theme. If you add the numbers, you get eight, which in the East Asian context in which the "four is death" theme arose, indicates "life" and bountiful fortune. But that doesn't fit with the very sinister overtone of that part of the tape.

There's also the very slim possibility of it being a reference to Entries #3, #5, #8, or #15--but I can't see what would come from viewing those entries. (Entries #3 and #8 concern Alex's filming of himself and his frequent sketching, Entry #5 is the scouting visit with Jay to the Red Tower and the Gazebo, and Entry #15 is Jay's interview of Tim.)

I actually wonder whether it isn't some kind of literary/cinematic allusion? But it's also quite possible that it's setting up something to come, too.

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Jsor
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lonsumtravlr wrote:
Only thing that comes to mind--and this won't really be helpful--is a play off the "four is death" theme. If you add the numbers, you get eight, which in the East Asian context in which the "four is death" theme arose, indicates "life" and bountiful fortune. But that doesn't fit with the very sinister overtone of that part of the tape.


To be fair, someone can know "4 is death" without being intimately familiar with East Asian culture, someone only partially aware could make all sorts of mistakes (8 is like... 4*2, man, that's like DOUBLE death! :p).

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lonsumtravlr
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Jsor wrote:
lonsumtravlr wrote:
Only thing that comes to mind--and this won't really be helpful--is a play off the "four is death" theme. If you add the numbers, you get eight, which in the East Asian context in which the "four is death" theme arose, indicates "life" and bountiful fortune. But that doesn't fit with the very sinister overtone of that part of the tape.


To be fair, someone can know "4 is death" without being intimately familiar with East Asian culture, someone only partially aware could make all sorts of mistakes (8 is like... 4*2, man, that's like DOUBLE death! :p).


Oh, I know. But it stems from the fact that in Chinese the words for "four" and for "death" are pronounced the same way. Double death makes life. Same thing in Jewish mysticism and numerology, except it has to do with the number values of letters. In this case, 9 is death and 18 is life.

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SilentMedusa
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I just had a half-baked thought: what if 305 was Tim's room number when he was in the hospital? I'm sure that's probably wrong, but it wouldn't be any crazier than revisiting the static hole from #21 years later.

Plus, that's assuming the belief that "they made a point to show it to us, so it must be important" is actually true. Now that I think of it, if there was a red herring in this entry, this is probably it.

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lonsumtravlr
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SilentMedusa wrote:
I just had a half-baked thought: what if 305 was Tim's room number when he was in the hospital? I'm sure that's probably wrong, but it wouldn't be any crazier than revisiting the static hole from #21 years later.

Plus, that's assuming the belief that "they made a point to show it to us, so it must be important" is actually true. Now that I think of it, if there was a red herring in this entry, this is probably it.


That's not a bad thought at all, actually, but maybe the number has something else to do with the hospital? Were there numbers other than the partially redacted dates on the hospital forms? (He asks of others, because it's easier to do so than to check himself.)

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TheManPF
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I really doubt that mailbox is relevant at all

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