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Did You Enjoy Hoody's Unmasking?
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pestoner
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lonsumtravlr wrote:
TheOperator--Hoody could talk: he muttered "Oh, shit!" when he was rummaging Tim's house for pills and saw Alex opening the attic.


thats the Sound of the wooden box he found the tape in, as he moves it.
an "oh shit!" from hoody would ruin any immersion, also the guys have a strict rule of no cursing in the series.

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pestoner wrote:
lonsumtravlr wrote:
TheOperator--Hoody could talk: he muttered "Oh, shit!" when he was rummaging Tim's house for pills and saw Alex opening the attic.


thats the Sound of the wooden box he found the tape in, as he moves it.
an "oh shit!" from hoody would ruin any immersion, also the guys have a strict rule of no cursing in the series.


Not to Noah in TribeTwelve. More swearing = More immersion. Rolling Eyes

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I understand why they did it the way they did it but it still seems grossly unrealistic that Tim wouldn't just take off the mask. They should have gave Tim a reason to leave without unmasking...... like TO standing over the body.

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gennerx wrote:
I understand why they did it the way they did it but it still seems grossly unrealistic that Tim wouldn't just take off the mask. They should have gave Tim a reason to leave without unmasking...... like TO standing over the body.


Well, he did try to take of the mask, and even succeeded once. You can't blame him on that.

On a more OOG-ish note:
I, for one, have no problem with not showing Hoodys face. And actually I liked the concept of #84 up until the 8:40 mark. After that, instead of showing us Tim reaction, they make him spell it out. Quite, literally. For his overlay text could be summarized as "Oh, I feel so sad about Brian, and I am also very angry at Alex." It would have been a ridiculous thing to say for a character on screen, and I feel it becomes even worse when you put it as text on the screen.

Just imagine instead of those white lines we would have seen a take from Tim, with some tears in his eyes and a red face, screaming at the camera. "Okay Alex, I know you watch this. I've had enough of you and your games. You've killed two of my best friends. Whatever it is that you want from Jay, Brian or me, come here and get it. I'll be waiting for you. [Black screen]"
While you are free to disagree with that too (I'm not a writer, obviously), you can in your mind replace it with your favorite line, but keep the agitated Tim, screaming at the camera in mind. I feel that this would have been under all accounts a more powerful way to make the same points as the overlay text.

So, because they crashed an otherwise good entry into the wall with this end, I am at whole disappointed with the entry. But I still hope (some may call it denial) that the next entry(s?) give some sort of explanation to Tim particular reaction. Maybe he knew who Brian was all along? Maybe he does remember things from his Masky episodes? Maybe he knows more of Alex's doings that he admits? But at the moment, all this is just rampant speculation.

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First, Hoody's tape on its own is pretty cool. It made for a breather episode that reminds us how tragic Brian and Alex's downfalls are, right before propelling us into the endgame. Had they focused just on that instead of revealing Hoody's identity at the same time I think it'd been better.

As much as I'd love to say Tim should've unmasked hoody last entry, I think I see what Troy wanted to avoid. I don't think Tim would've left Brian for Oppy food had he known who it was so he'd probably get himself killed or at the very least Maskified again.
For the sake of Tim getting out of there safely he had to be ignorant of who was under the hood.

Granted, they could've rewrote the entry to avoid that scenario. I'm gonna wait and see how this relates to the next entries before passing judgment though. There is the chance Tim's regret over not realizing who Hoody was could trigger an emotional confession of some sort.

For now I'll vote neutral. The concept was good, but the execution was flawed.

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pestoner wrote:
lonsumtravlr wrote:
TheOperator--Hoody could talk: he muttered "Oh, shit!" when he was rummaging Tim's house for pills and saw Alex opening the attic.


thats the Sound of the wooden box he found the tape in, as he moves it.
an "oh shit!" from hoody would ruin any immersion, also the guys have a strict rule of no cursing in the series.


I had to watch that scene 4 times before I came to the same conclusion. The timing and sound of the box is a really weird coincidence.

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Tim not taping his reaction is the one thing that I think actually makes sense.

The results were a lot less polarized than I thought they would be. I sort of wonder what would have happened if I didn't include a neutral option, but that hour is passed.

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gennerx wrote:
pestoner wrote:
lonsumtravlr wrote:
TheOperator--Hoody could talk: he muttered "Oh, shit!" when he was rummaging Tim's house for pills and saw Alex opening the attic.


thats the Sound of the wooden box he found the tape in, as he moves it.
an "oh shit!" from hoody would ruin any immersion, also the guys have a strict rule of no cursing in the series.


I had to watch that scene 4 times before I came to the same conclusion. The timing and sound of the box is a really weird coincidence.


i rewatched it like 10 times, its a little more difficult having in mind that he actually is saying something,but if you think about it,it's just way off.
hoody,all this time being this sneaky ninja-guy suddenly muttering "oh shit!"
would discredit all he stands/stood for.


edit:tim's reaction right here

http://youtu.be/PlmKwitb0hI?t=2m45s

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pestoner wrote:
gennerx wrote:
pestoner wrote:
lonsumtravlr wrote:
TheOperator--Hoody could talk: he muttered "Oh, shit!" when he was rummaging Tim's house for pills and saw Alex opening the attic.


thats the Sound of the wooden box he found the tape in, as he moves it.
an "oh shit!" from hoody would ruin any immersion, also the guys have a strict rule of no cursing in the series.


I had to watch that scene 4 times before I came to the same conclusion. The timing and sound of the box is a really weird coincidence.


i rewatched it like 10 times, its a little more difficult having in mind that he actually is saying something,but if you think about it,it's just way off.
hoody,all this time being this sneaky ninja-guy suddenly muttering "oh shit!"
would discredit all he stands/stood for.


edit:tim's reaction right here

http://youtu.be/PlmKwitb0hI?t=2m45s


That's what made that scene great. Sneaky ninja guy gets surprised and looses his cool. Cause that's what happened even though he didn't say anything.

Maybe he's telepathic and we all heard what he was thinking.

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I think they wanted to avoid the OMFG THAT'S BRIAN UNDER THE MASK thing that they did for Timasky for 35. It would be awesome to see what Brian is like today, though.
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I thought it was horrible. Brian walks in with the same Hoodie we've seen since Season 2.

such surprise. much w0w.

I gotta say that, Trosephim are a cunning group. Most people have pointed out that a red herring this far into the story would be dumb, but I think...it would be amazing.

Think about it, MOST of everybody pretty much KNEW it was Brian, no doubt. It's been talked about, speculated, blah blah blah. It wasn't the identity of Hoodie that confused us, it was the master plan behind his actions.

Entry 84 is coming from the same group of guys who had us decipher messages in morse, spectrograph, numbers into letters, key stroke patterns and much more. Do people honestly believe that they WOULDN'T pull a bit of misdirection here? I'd be worried if they didn't!

Misdirection...as in, we were all wrong, all along. That's the sort of twist that this series likes to flirt with. They'll show us a very obvious, boring reveal of Brian and then hit us with a surprise left: Tim was wrong, and we were wrong.

My reasoning for this is that Entry 84 is very unsatisfying; so unsatisfying, that there has to be more to it. Now, they've made some iffy decisions here and there, but I don't think they'd do what they did for Entry 84.

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PieAvenger, you're posting as one who has faith that Trosephim not only want to see this series that started off so well through to a quality, though likely unsettling conclusion, but also have such a conclusion planned out.

I have faith too, and think that there's more than meets the eye here, but I wonder if the misdirection has to do with Brian as Hoody. Maybe there's something else to that entry.

About Tim's lackluster reaction: the way I think of it, which is the way I thought of it when I watched the entry last week, is that in Season Three Tim opened up quite a bit. Whatever reserve he was showing as late as Entry #64 was totally broken down after his abduction by TO and his return to the hospital. (Except for Entry #59 and then Hoody catching his breakdown into tears in Entry #61, Tim hadn't shown much emotion and was showing a rather tough, sardonic exterior.) Then he had someone he could and did trust again in Jay. When Jay was taken and his health deteriorated up to the point he got his pills back, he was pretty vulnerable again. Then he takes the tape from a (dead? or dying?) Hoody and watches it only to see that the person he'd previously referred to as "my first real friend" was apparently this crazy apparent vigilante who had manipulated him. Now except for Alex--barring some other twist that may be coming or some info being withheld--he's alone again. I see Tim setting up that tough exterior again. It may not have been the most satisfying way to portray it, but I dont' think it's that inconsistent.

Reserving my right to not vote on the quality of the unmasking until the series concludes, because that's the only way it can really be seen in a proper light: when the entire series can be watched as a whole.

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I'm not suspecting that because, by that logic, The Operator must be an imposter, because he's been hugely disappointing a lot of people for some time.

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pestoner wrote:
lonsumtravlr wrote:
TheOperator--Hoody could talk: he muttered "Oh, shit!" when he was rummaging Tim's house for pills and saw Alex opening the attic.


thats the Sound of the wooden box he found the tape in, as he moves it.
an "oh shit!" from hoody would ruin any immersion, also the guys have a strict rule of no cursing in the series.


yeah, it seemed off, which is why it stuck. the closest anyone else has come to cursing in MH has been Alex saying "Jesus Christ" when encountering Jay running out of the woods in Entry #42. That's not really swearing. I gotta watch that scene again and listen more closely this time.

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I'm indifferent, as I have this nagging feeling that they intended us to feel that the "reveal" was too straight forward to be accepted as fact. That the lack of theatrics may be due to an incorrect deduction, despite it being a well-guided one. There's something too...simple about it. Like they want us to be torn.

This is likely me over thinking things, but considering Hoody's tendency to nick items from people, it's not unrealistic to assume that the hoody may have been Brian's at one point in time, before being taken by the current wearer.

How on earth is it nearly 8am... I need to stop reading and theorizing.

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