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What if TTA is run by proxies?
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Monkah
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What if TTA is run by proxies?
I don't think anyone's thought about it yet.

What if ToTheArk is run by Operator's proxies? As in, perhaps even used as a method of communication between T.O. and Jay. It'd explain why the videos are usually filled with static and generally look messed up.

Any speculation?

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Re: What if TTA is run by proxies?
I don't think anyone's thought about it yet.

Monkah wrote:
What if ToTheArk is run by Operator's proxies? As in, perhaps even used as a method of communication between T.O. and Jay. It'd explain why the videos are usually filled with static and generally look messed up.

Any speculation?




Spoilers below for anyone new to the series and checking out the boards before watching too far in.




Assuming that Tim/Masky was supposed to be both TTA (which seems obvious) and likely the human villain of season one, then I think this theory made a lot of sense for the first twenty-five or so entries and maybe for Entry #26. TTA was likely behind the lead that brought Jay to the house in Entry #16, Masky was waiting at the house in Entry #18, and Masky seems to play some role in Jay getting transported to the basement where Jay encounters TO in Entry #23. It could be that TTA is trying to get Jay involved or broken down and brought under TO's control.

Even so, I don't think it works. I think it's more likely that TTA is on Jay's side only to the extent that Jay's not under TO's control (at least not completely) and is sincerely trying to unravel the mystery of what happened. TTA does warn Jay against quitting, for example.

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It would be impossible to explain, therefore it cannot be true.

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fezstudios
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There is no evidence of Tim or Brian ever being proxies as Masky and Hoody. They've worked against the Operator, but not for him.

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DHawk314
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There's lots of evidence of the Operator working with Alex, starting with Alex leading Brian and Seth to it in entries 51 and 22. There's also Alex walking directly at the Operator in 43 instead of running away. Next we have the Operator appearing in Alex's house in Entry #46 and Alex not running; he's not scared. He just shows up in 47 like nothing happened, with no answer for Jay as to how he got out of his apartment.

Next there's 49, 76, and 80 where the Operator takes away the people Alex seemingly kills. The tweets following 49 suggest all memory of the guy Alex killed was also somehow purged from any public record, which certainly helps Alex. However, he also takes away Brian/Hoody in 83, and Alex had nothing to do with that, so it's possible the Operator just has a dead body fetish.

The nail in the coffin for this theory though is entries 45 and 67, especially 67. 45 has Masky/Tim and Hoody/Brian attack Alex when the Operator presumably shows up off camera (The footage tears) and we see Masky/Tim and Hoody/Brian run away from whatever's off camera. Notice the contrast between Tim and Brian running away in 45, while Alex just stays in his apartment in 46/47. Hoody/Brian runs from the Operator again in 83.

The big deal though is the possible implication that the Operator saved Alex from Tim, who was strangling him in 45. However, it's not exactly clear that that's what's happening in 45. In 67 on the other hand, Hoody points the gun at Alex and the Operator appears almost instantly. While you could skew the scene so this is a coincidence, it's unlikely, and Jay even mentions this later:

Entry #75 wrote:
[1:25] Jay: So what are we gonna do if Alex is still there?
[1:29] Tim: I guess it's us versus him. At least he doesn't have that gun anymore.
[1:34] Jay: Well, he could have gotten another one, right?
[1:37] Tim: Yeah.
[1:39] Jay: You saw what happened when someone tried to turn that on him.


So overall it seems Alex is the "Proxy," and that totheark, who is expressively for killing Alex in many videos, and who is almost certainly Masky/Tim and/or Hoody/Brian, or at least on the same side as them, are in contrast scared of the Operator. Tim for instance, has seemingly always been scared of the Operator. Even when he's seemingly Maskying out in 65 he seems scared of it, which Alex never is. And while Alex basically never gets attacked by it, or even gets sick unless he goes right at it, the Operator attacks both Jay and Tim, and both of them plus Hoody/Brian have severe Slendersickness.

So overall it seems like totheark is on the other end of the dichotomy than Alex and the Operator, and it does seem to be a dichotomy.
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Monkah
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DHawk314 wrote:

So overall it seems Alex is the "Proxy," and that totheark, who is expressively for killing Alex in many videos, and who is almost certainly Masky/Tim and/or Hoody/Brian, or at least on the same side as them, are in contrast scared of the Operator. Tim for instance, has seemingly always been scared of the Operator. Even when he's seemingly Maskying out in 65 he seems scared of it, which Alex never is. And while Alex basically never gets attacked by it, or even gets sick unless he goes right at it, the Operator attacks both Jay and Tim, and both of them plus Hoody/Brian have severe Slendersickness.

So overall it seems like totheark is on the other end of the dichotomy than Alex and the Operator, and it does seem to be a dichotomy.


What exactly is that other end, though? Could it be that they just weren't proxified at the time? There has to be a reasonable explanation for the odd effects and distortion on the TTA videos.

PS: Has Alex ever actually starred in a TTA video?

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Geneaux486
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I don't think the Operator really has "proxies" in Marble Hornets. TTA was likely, at the very least, Tim and Brian alternating at various times, so it's run by people whose minds have been broken by the Operator, and the resulting behavior has resulted several times in encounters with the thing, but I don't think there's anyone out there actively doing its bidding. I'm not convinced the Operator really thinks in terms of having a bidding to be done in the first place. It seems more like a chaotic anomaly in the fabric of reality that extends far beyond the deformed representation of a human being that appears before people than a thinking, reasoning life-form.

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I don't know, some entries (82 in particular) gave me the impression that TO might actually have an agenda. Although that might just be because I personally am not so fond of "mindless force-of-nature" type villains, at least not in stories like this one.

But I don't think TO has real proxies either, at least not in the conventional TSM sense. It has Alex and it has influenced Jay in the past, but their behaviors under its influence seem to indicate more that it just warps their reasoning and rationality to its own benefit rather than outright commanding them or possessing them.

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