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 		 [META] Petty Complaints
Look I have been reading stuff on this forum for a while now and I keep coming across the same mind blowingly stupid complaints, so I figured that I would make a place for me and people like me to vent about this utter B.S.

The very common complaint I hear every now and then (often on the What do you want to see?/What are you sick of? thread) is that people shouldn't use the Operator symbol because it's un-original or whatever. Look it's part of the mythos DEAL WITH IT ... I am not saying that people should have to use it I or anything like that but complaining about that is like complaining about Slender wearing a suite or causing distortion.Think about this way ... the reason why you think it SOOOOOOOO "unoriginal" Rolling Eyes is because it is from Marble Hornets ... you know what else is from MH?Distortion,Proxies, the format in it of it's self, the psychological horror element, AND the symbol.Before MH the slender man just stalked kids ,kill people and ... that's about it.Also all of the biggest (and best) series include the symbol any way so saying that it is a marker of a bad series or even GASP a bad writer.Another point I'd like to make is that the symbols REPRESENT stuff telling people to make a new symbol for the same old Slender Man is the same thing as me telling you to use a different symbol in place of the letter A because using the
A' symbol is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO "unoriginal" Rolling Eyes Continuing on this point, if you actuauly pay attention you would notice that when a series uses a different symbol usualy has that other symbol to sybolyze something other that the Slender Man For instance:Tribe Twelve's symbol represents Severance Dark Harvest's symbol represents the Order.

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Look I have been reading stuff on this forum for a while now and I keep coming across the same mind blowingly stupid complaints, so I figured that I would make a place for me and people like me to vent about this utter B.S.


And I shall take it upon myself to explain why you are wrong. Or at least why the complaint makes more sense than you're giving it credit for.

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The very common complaint I hear every now and then (often on the What do you want to see?/What are you sick of? thread) is that people shouldn't use the Operator symbol because it's un-original or whatever. Look it's part of the mythos DEAL WITH IT ...


Stop right there. What did you just call it? The OPERATOR Symbol, NOT the Slenderman Symbol. Clearly, it is not that ingrained in the mythos, & more associated with Marble Hornets.

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I am not saying that people should have to use it I or anything like that but complaining about that is like complaining about Slender wearing a suite or causing distortion.


Wearing a suit is an essential quality of Slenderman. I do not recall whether or not the original images mentioned distortion, but at any rate, it IS universal to Slenderman appearances, unlike the symbol.

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Think about this way ... the reason why you think it SOOOOOOOO "unoriginal" Rolling Eyes is because it is from Marble Hornets ... you know what else is from MH?Distortion,Proxies, the format in it of it's self, the psychological horror element, AND the symbol.


If you'll notice, all of those things EXCEPT for the symbol are things that can be & are altered. With the Operator Symbol, it's a symbol, you either use it or you don't.

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Also all of the biggest (and best) series include the symbol any way


Since when?

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Another point I'd like to make is that the symbols REPRESENT stuff telling people to make a new symbol for the same old Slender Man is the same thing as me telling you to use a different symbol in place of the letter A because using the
A' symbol is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO "unoriginal"


No, telling people not to copy the Operator Symbol is not the same as telling them not to use a letter of the Latin Alphabet. And it wouldn't really be hard to make a new symbol. How about...an hourglass with an elongated bottom? Represents his tie & the fact that he will inevitably get you. Or maybe...a hand with long fingers, representing his disproportionate body & tendency towards abduction. Or how about...a tree with tentacles poking out from behind it? You get the idea.

In fact, having so many symbols would make sense, as Slenderman already has many names (Der Ritter, Operator, etc.) Alternatively, you could just not use a symbol, as there's really no reason why you need a symbol to represent a specific monster.

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Rolling Eyes Continuing on this point, if you actuauly pay attention you would notice that when a series uses a different symbol usualy has that other symbol to sybolyze something other that the Slender Man For instance:Tribe Twelve's symbol represents Severance Dark Harvest's symbol represents the Order.


That's great, but doesn't actually prove anything. Except maybe that they are coming up with their own concepts. A large portion of the complaint about The Operator is that it's just tacky. It's one of those things that's used too often as a crutch. Or so I gather, anyway.

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 		Honestly, my main issue is when a series uses the Operator symbol repeatedly. I understand wanting to throw it in as a form of homage once or twice, to acknowledge the roots of Marble Hornets, but taking it and incorporating it into your story is tedious. It's not on par with ripping off, say, HABIT and forcing him/it to interact with your characters over the internet (which I have no doubt happens on some blogs). There is a line between homage and ripoff, and when a series crosses that line, I don't bother.

Also, Lithp, as usual, I agree with your thoughts on symbols. They're largely unnecessary, with few exceptions (TribeTwelve's "Severance" video can explain the importance of his). Abstract representations of monsters drawn by hand are cool, I guess, but they don't really need to be there. I can't conceive of a person deciding to watch a series because their symbol for Slenderman was best. I know I decided to stop watching some because of genuine unoriginality.

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Lithp wrote:
Stop right there. What did you just call it? The OPERATOR Symbol, NOT the Slenderman Symbol. Clearly, it is not that ingrained in the mythos, & more associated with Marble Hornets.


I use the call it the Operator symbol due to the fact that that's what it is most commonly referred to as not because I think of MH when ever it is used.I will explain shortly.

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I am not saying that people should have to use it I or anything like that but complaining about that is like complaining about Slender wearing a suite or causing distortion.


Wearing a suit is an essential quality of Slenderman. I do not recall whether or not the original images mentioned distortion, but at any rate, it IS universal to Slenderman appearances, unlike the symbol.


B.S. the Operator symbol IS the universal symbol for the slender man ... almost every one I know knows that a circle with an X through it represents but I HAVE NEVER MET A SINGLE PERSON IN REAL LIFE THAT HAS SEEN ANY ENTRY OF MH (or any slender series for that matter) HOW IS THAT NOT UNIVERSAL I knew what a circle with an X through it meant A WHOLE YEAR before I even knew what MH even was.

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Also all of the biggest (and best) series include the symbol any way


Since when?


Out of the top 5 most popular (forget what I said about "best" and "all" because that is a B.S. statement to make) Slender series (excluding MH of course) Tribe Twelve uses it Dark Harvest uses it , caught not sleeping uses it (but I like to pretend that CNS does not exist so forget that I mentioned it) and EMH has a whopping ONE whole operator symbol in it's entire mainstream continuity ... so that just leaves MLA as the only one that never used the Operator symbol ... so I guess that makes it the most original one Rolling Eyes

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Another point I'd like to make is that the symbols REPRESENT stuff telling people to make a new symbol for the same old Slender Man is the same thing as me telling you to use a different symbol in place of the letter A because using the
A' symbol is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO "unoriginal"


No, telling people not to copy the Operator Symbol is not the same as telling them not to use a letter of the Latin Alphabet. And it wouldn't really be hard to make a new symbol. How about...an hourglass with an elongated bottom? Represents his tie & the fact that he will inevitably get you. Or maybe...a hand with long fingers, representing his disproportionate body & tendency towards abduction. Or how about...a tree with tentacles poking out from behind it? You get the idea.

In fact, having so many symbols would make sense, as Slenderman already has many names (Der Ritter, Operator, etc.) Alternatively, you could just not use a symbol, as there's really no reason why you need a symbol to represent a specific monster.


While I agree that within a series using multiple diferent symbols is good for variety sake and shit ... I would also have to say that you are completly
missing what makes the operator symbol effective. See there are 2 very important qualities that need to be within a symbol 1. It needs to be extremely easy to mark down 2. it needs to be something that can instantly be recognized.The operator symbol works so well because any one can draw it and as I mentioned before it is almost universally recognized as the symbol for the slender man.Most of the symbols you mentioned would be too hard to do especially for some one like me, see I have a disorder that makes it very hard to do anything acurate with my hands and I can't stand it if what I do is slightly off so so drawing a fucking hand is completely out of the picture I would have to try repeatedly to do the unproportionate hour glass and the tree would most likely look like shit ... I could probably to the tendrals though.

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Rolling Eyes Continuing on this point, if you actually pay attention you would notice that when a series uses a different symbol usually has that other symbol to sybolyze something other that the Slender Man For instance:Tribe Twelve's symbol represents Severance Dark Harvest's symbol represents the Order.


That's great, but doesn't actually prove anything. Except maybe that they are coming up with their own concepts. A large portion of the complaint about The Operator is that it's just tacky. It's one of those things that's used too often as a crutch. Or so I gather, anyway.


I would't say that the symbols are exactly "original" though if you actualy look at the symbols you can see that Tribe twelve just replaced a circle at the cross section of 2 lines and made it a circle at the cross section of two ovals ... with a dot in the middle,and Dark Harvest's symbol is just an operator symbol inside of a kite BROVO 5 STARS .... when you think about it though it does make since ... like the order could be the kite surrounding the slender man I guess.

One thing I'd like to point out is that it isn't the ideas you use it's how you use them saying that if you see the operator symbol that makes what you are seeing un-original and therefore not worth your time you are sorely wrong because ... ANY AND ALL SLENDER SERIES ARE DERIVITIVE WORK AND THEREBY UN-ORIGINAL IN SOME WAY

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 		[quote]I use the call it the Operator symbol due to the fact that that's what it is most commonly referred to as not because I think of MH when ever it is used.I will explain shortly.

Yes, it is most commonly referred to that because that is what it is. You are quite literally the first person that I've ever seen, on these forums, call it "the universal symbol for Slenderman."

I don't care what a bunch of random people on YouTube are doing.

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B.S. the Operator symbol IS the universal symbol for the slender man ... almost every one I know knows that a circle with an X through it represents but I HAVE NEVER MET A SINGLE PERSON IN REAL LIFE THAT HAS SEEN ANY ENTRY OF MH (or any slender series for that matter) HOW IS THAT NOT UNIVERSAL I knew what a circle with an X through it meant A WHOLE YEAR before I even knew what MH even was.


Simple, your group of acquaintances is not universal because they are not representative of everyone everywhere.

The popularization of "Slender: The Arrival" has resulted in spreading a lot of information that isn't necessarily accurate. For example, I gather that a lot of people believe that the monster's name is actually "Slender," & it originated with the game.

So even if this is widely believed, that does not make it true.

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Out of the top 5 most popular (forget what I said about "best" and "all" because that is a B.S. statement to make) Slender series (excluding MH of course) Tribe Twelve uses it Dark Harvest uses it , caught not sleeping uses it (but I like to pretend that CNS does not exist so forget that I mentioned it) and EMH has a whopping ONE whole operator symbol in it's entire mainstream continuity ... so that just leaves MLA as the only one that never used the Operator symbol ... so I guess that makes it the most original one Rolling Eyes


I don't know about the others, but EverymanHYBRID was deliberately referencing Marble Hornets. As in the cast in EverymanHYBRID, canonically, watched Marble Hornets. So it would be more accurate to say that the symbol in EMH is a symbol for the "fake" Slenderman.

Context is important. I don't know about the other 2. But let's say that you're right about them. That means that 3/5 of the major non-Marble Hornets series use the Operator symbol, & are actually serious about it. That's hardly "universal," as it is irrelevant to almost half of them.

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While I agree that within a series using multiple diferent symbols is good for variety sake and shit ... I would also have to say that you are completly
missing what makes the operator symbol effective. See there are 2 very important qualities that need to be within a symbol 1. It needs to be extremely easy to mark down 2. it needs to be something that can instantly be recognized.The operator symbol works so well because any one can draw it and as I mentioned before it is almost universally recognized as the symbol for the slender man.


No, I took those things into account. I don't know what you're even talking about. Circles are hard as balls to draw accurately. They even made a whole point about this in one of the EMH-TT crossover videos, where Noah kept screwing up the Severance symbol. Also, the Operator Symbol doesn't technically pass the "recognition" test, because we know for a fact that it meant several other things long before Marble Hornets came around.

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I would't say that the symbols are exactly "original" though if you actualy look at the symbols you can see that Tribe twelve just replaced a circle at the cross section of 2 lines and made it a circle at the cross section of two ovals ... with a dot in the middle,and Dark Harvest's symbol is just an operator symbol inside of a kite BROVO 5 STARS .... when you think about it though it does make since ... like the order could be the kite surrounding the slender man I guess.


To be blunt, this is pedantry. It would be wrong of me to blatantly copy the Severance Symbol just because "oh it's not that hard to make." Sure, maybe I COULD HAVE come up with it, but I DIDN'T. Coming up with my own symbol based on an eye, while you could argue is "not original," is not the same thing.

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One thing I'd like to point out is that it isn't the ideas you use it's how you use them


I agree with you to a certain extent, but certain moves just scream "I'm like this more popular thing! Pay attention to me!" These moves are huge marks against the thing that's making them, in my book.

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 		Litp, I'm going to have to agree with you here, something I don't often do.

In the confines of ARG's, the operator symbol should be confined to the MH universe, unless someone makes a series involving only the operator, calling him the operator, and therefore failing in all creativity.

Any series that uses the operator symbol obviously lacks the creativity to create something of their own. Now a symbol of your own can work, but it can also be very cliche if it does not serve a purpose.

I'd like to bring slenderhaunting to light here...an otherwise interesting and well done series is ruined for some people for a few reasons; use of the operator symbol, and another symbol which serve no purpose, adding the rake into the series a year in, when it did nothing to the story, and including slender in the title. Other than that the series was well done. It just left a sour taste in my mouth, and these are easy to not fuck up things.

I have reason to be angry when a series does one of these incredibly stupid things, because it is common sense, and incredibly easy to NOT DO THEM.
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Lithp wrote:
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B.S. the Operator symbol IS the universal symbol for the slender man ... almost every one I know knows that a circle with an X through it represents but I HAVE NEVER MET A SINGLE PERSON IN REAL LIFE THAT HAS SEEN ANY ENTRY OF MH (or any slender series for that matter) HOW IS THAT NOT UNIVERSAL I knew what a circle with an X through it meant A WHOLE YEAR before I even knew what MH even was.


Simple, your group of acquaintances is not universal because they are not representative of everyone everywhere.

The popularization of "Slender: The Arrival" has resulted in spreading a lot of information that isn't necessarily accurate. For example, I gather that a lot of people believe that the monster's name is actually "Slender," & it originated with the game.

So even if this is widely believed, that does not make it true.


I don't think you quite understand the scope of what I am talking about here ... I'm not just talking about me and all of my freinds and shit I mean quite literally EVERYBODY knows what it is ... I mean I put it up on a dry erase board at school once and almost everyone recognized the symbol ... none of them knew about MH they just knew that it represented the slender man.

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Out of the top 5 most popular (forget what I said about "best" and "all" because that is a B.S. statement to make) Slender series (excluding MH of course) Tribe Twelve uses it Dark Harvest uses it , caught not sleeping uses it (but I like to pretend that CNS does not exist so forget that I mentioned it) and EMH has a whopping ONE whole operator symbol in it's entire mainstream continuity ... so that just leaves MLA as the only one that never used the Operator symbol ... so I guess that makes it the most original one Rolling Eyes


I don't know about the others, but EverymanHYBRID was deliberately referencing Marble Hornets. As in the cast in EverymanHYBRID, canonically, watched Marble Hornets. So it would be more accurate to say that the symbol in EMH is a symbol for the "fake" Slenderman.

Context is important. I don't know about the other 2. But let's say that you're right about them. That means that 3/5 of the major non-Marble Hornets series use the Operator symbol, & are actually serious about it. That's hardly "universal," as it is irrelevant to almost half of them.


Well it still exists as a symbol for the Slender man within that universe ... and because it was in multiple unrelated cases within that universe (being the universe widely excepted as THE slender universe) I would say within that universe the Operator symbol is the Universal symbol for the Slender man ... which would make it part of the Mythos.

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While I agree that within a series using multiple diferent symbols is good for variety sake and shit ... I would also have to say that you are completly
missing what makes the operator symbol effective. See there are 2 very important qualities that need to be within a symbol 1. It needs to be extremely easy to mark down 2. it needs to be something that can instantly be recognized.The operator symbol works so well because any one can draw it and as I mentioned before it is almost universally recognized as the symbol for the slender man.


No, I took those things into account. I don't know what you're even talking about. Circles are hard as balls to draw accurately. They even made a whole point about this in one of the EMH-TT crossover videos, where Noah kept screwing up the Severance symbol. Also, the Operator Symbol doesn't technically pass the "recognition" test, because we know for a fact that it meant several other things long before Marble Hornets came around.


Are you really telling me that it is HARD to draw an Operator symbol ...
okay I made a video just for you (also as I said before I have a disorder that gives me TERRIBLE hand accuracy and generally just bad motor skills, if can do this basically any one can)

http://youtu.be/gdHytLeXvVc
(oh look the video player still won't pop up on UF great)

Now with that out of the way, the reason Noah had trouble making wasn't because of the damn symbol it was THE FUCKING EYES and THE SYMMETRY the severance symbol just looks strait up wrong if you mess up the proportions on the eyes just ... shit.

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I would't say that the symbols are exactly "original" though if you actualy look at the symbols you can see that Tribe twelve just replaced a circle at the cross section of 2 lines and made it a circle at the cross section of two ovals ... with a dot in the middle,and Dark Harvest's symbol is just an operator symbol inside of a kite BROVO 5 STARS .... when you think about it though it does make since ... like the order could be the kite surrounding the slender man I guess.


To be blunt, this is pedantry. It would be wrong of me to blatantly copy the Severance Symbol just because "oh it's not that hard to make." Sure, maybe I COULD HAVE come up with it, but I DIDN'T. Coming up with my own symbol based on an eye, while you could argue is "not original," is not the same thing.


I'm not entirely sure what you are even trying to get at here ... like at all,but you did remind me of something ... I did infact come up with a design of something that looked almost exactly like the operator symbol (except it had a smile on it) before I even seen or heard of it ... actually now that I think back at it what makes this really weird is the fact that like the desighn was for like this character that lived in an alternate dimension and he like died when the dimension blew up ... and the portal was in the middle of the woods so this red fog (in the shape of the design I spoke of before) filled up the woods and started like possessing hikers and basically making then Proxies and shit ... it's really weird.

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One thing I'd like to point out is that it isn't the ideas you use it's how you use them


I agree with you to a certain extent, but certain moves just scream "I'm like this more popular thing! Pay attention to me!" These moves are huge marks against the thing that's making them, in my book.


As I said it depends on how you use it ... like if you like plaster everything with it with no rhyme or reason it can be really distracting ... like I feel that if it is used in restrained and not as way to remind people that they are watch a slender series then yeah I have no problem but If every episode has 32 and a half of them in every frame then yes ... that is verry verry bad and unoriginal but that doesn't mean that including the Operator symbol it's self is unoriginal.

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 		Why did you show me a video of you screwing up the Operator symbol, making the excuse that you don't have to be accurate with it even though you were bitching about needing a symbol that you could accurately draw, & all the while mocking me like I'M the one making a fool out of myself?

Is that kind of like how "everyone" knows that The Operator Symbol is "the symbol for Slenderman," & that's why you had to make a thread explaining this to a bunch of people saying that it's just ripping off Marble Hornets & therefore shouldn't be done?

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Litp, I'm going to have to agree with you here, something I don't often do.

In the confines of ARG's, the operator symbol should be confined to the MH universe, unless someone makes a series involving only the operator, calling him the operator, and therefore failing in all creativity.

Any series that uses the operator symbol obviously lacks the creativity to create something of their own. Now a symbol of your own can work, but it can also be very cliche if it does not serve a purpose.


I have reason to be angry when a series does one of these incredibly stupid things, because it is common sense, and incredibly easy to NOT DO THEM.

Honestly, that is some high quality BS here, the inclusion of the Operator symbol itself has absolutely nothing to do with "lack of creativity", it still can be used in a creative way. If you guys serously get angry and scream "THISTOTALLYRIPSOFFMH!!!!!1" just because of the inclusion of the symbol itself, then you seriously should get your priorities checked.
Also, i agree with the OP, the Operator Symbol is the most known symbol, not only in the Slenderverse, but also way beyond it it is rather easy recognizable.
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 		Explain to me something that would (A) use the Operator Symbol in a "new and creative way" that (B) doesn't contradict your claim that the symbol has a specific & established meaning, (C) is more creative than making a new design, & (D) wouldn't be better served by using a new symbol to represent the new thing that you did.

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 		FWIW, the "Operator" symbol always makes me think of the Zodiac killer; in fact the first time I saw it in the MH videos I thought the series was aiming at making a connection with that RL case. The Operator's symbol is the same symbol that the Zodiac used for himself, rotated 45 degrees (in either direction).

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Lithp wrote:
Why did you show me a video of you screwing up the Operator symbol, making the excuse that you don't have to be accurate with it even though you were bitching about needing a symbol that you could accurately draw, & all the while mocking me like I'M the one making a fool out of myself?

Is that kind of like how "everyone" knows that The Operator Symbol is "the symbol for Slenderman," & that's why you had to make a thread explaining this to a bunch of people saying that it's just ripping off Marble Hornets & therefore shouldn't be done?


Okay apparently I didn't state what I meant good enough I wasn't saying that the symbols had to be accurate or what ever I was saying that the other symbols required TOO much accuracy so that if you mess it up it looks like shit. Don't tell me that it HAS to be a perfect circle making it a perfect circle takes away from the scribbly aesthetic the problem with something that is more complicated can't be thrown done down like the OP symbol ... it only takes 3 hand movements it's not that hard especially if you actual try (unlike what I did) and don't have a disorder (like me).Also the only thing I really made that looked bad was that "Something about no eyes" note I made towards the end and I pointed that out.

Secondly yes everyone does know that the Operator is the symbol for the Slender man I mean denying it doesn't make it any less true.

I made this thread just to vent not to convince any one of any thing ... I will debate you as to why I don't necessarily think this the Operator (or what ever subject comes up after this) is automatically bad because I like to debate things.Also it isn't ripping off marble hornets because as I said before it is part of the mythos is it a necessary part of the mythos? No' not really but just because you don't have to do something dosen't mean that you shouldn't.

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Explain to me something that would (A) use the Operator Symbol in a "new and creative way" that (B) doesn't contradict your claim that the symbol has a specific & established meaning, (C) is more creative than making a new design, & (D) wouldn't be better served by using a new symbol to represent the new thing that you did.


I don't know what to say about this.Using it in a creative way does not mean "change what it means" It means to use it in a creative way ... like putting in a creative place orusing it as a part of a whole wide array of diferent symbols that all represent something ... If it's that second one than yeah you have absolutely nothing to say like some one did make there own symbols and shit they just included the OP symbol.

Also even if the singular act of including the Operator symbol was more or less "uncreative" it still wouldn't matter unless if it was a big part of the series ... like if you complain because it was used once or twice per season and only had one huge appearance over the course of the whole series than, yes by definition(of little importance;trivial) your complaint is petty.

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 		I do not see any legitimate reason to use the symbol, except as a nod to Marble Hornets. If anyone chimes in with a better defense than "everyone knows I'm right & anyone who says otherwise is stupid," then I will be glad to hear it.

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Lithp wrote:
I do not see any legitimate reason to use the symbol, except as a nod to Marble Hornets. If anyone chimes in with a better defense than "everyone knows I'm right & anyone who says otherwise is stupid," then I will be glad to hear it.


I only said that about the fact that the Operator symbol is widely known as the symbol for the Slender man ... so yeah that would have been one of my points ... I guess, but if you really chock up all I said to just that then yeah I'd have to say that you are pretty stupid.

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 		Using the symbol at all seems to be too much of a cheap pop to really work, no matter what your perspective on it. The whole mythos (as broad as it may seem) feels too small time for tricks like that. Its like Arnold reusing the line "I'll be back". (Lack of better example). Yeah, we get it, cool, but it doesn't add anything. It always seems better, in my worthless opinion, to put more brain power towards your own ideas than spending it on an homage to someone elses junk. (Even if it does work well.)

I want to throw up a cautionary remark against the "everyone knows it" idea, but maybe you're right and i'm out of touch with everything. I dunno.

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