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[VIDEO] Entry #85
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AmbientGuy
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Try this again: Am I the only one seeing TO standing down the street around 4:18-4:23 as Tim pulls up to his house?

Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 3:41 pm

Ascalondion
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AmbientGuy wrote:

Try this again: Am I the only one seeing TO standing down the street around 4:18-4:23 as Tim pulls up to his house?

Jup.

The only thing I see there a distant street sign.

Btw. am I correct that there absolutely no distortion in this entry? I fancied that I could hear a very faint distortion during Tim's monolog, but rewatching it didn't gave me any confirmation.

Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 3:48 pm

Smoking_Gnu
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Unless I'm mis-remembering something there was some pretty noticeable distortion during Alex's rant.

RE "You know where to find me:" Could go either way, honestly. Either Tim randomly guesses some location in 86 and it indeed becomes nonsensical, or he really is referring to some location that Tim's deliberately avoided/kept hidden from the audience. Given his actions over the last few dozen episodes I don't think that's too unreasonable, for good or ill, but the jury's still out.

Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 3:52 pm

ziggazern
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Smoking_Gnu wrote:

I really feel like it might be the secondary, smaller building at the burnt down hospital. Tim would always avoid going there and Alex has been seen there several times, waiting for people to show up to attack/kill.

Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 4:04 pm

lonsumtravlr
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Dacad wrote:

I was going to argue that Brian may have had symptoms that we didn't know about, but I think you might be on to something. The Brian we saw from the old Marble Hornets tapes was a cheerful, well adjusted person who liked helping his friends. Definitely not what we see from Alex, Jay, and Tim.

Here's my theory. As a child, Tim was stalked by the Operator. At some point, however, his psychiatrists did.... something.... that made him functional. The Operator didn't go away, but he/it was weakened to the point that nobody was even aware it existed. Enter the film project. Alex accidentally captures the Operator on camera. Rather than ignore this weird camera glitch like most people have up to this point, he investigates. Somehow, this empowers the Operator and enables him/it to grow stronger. Rather than appearing as a figure at the end of a street far away, it can appear right outside a window, and eventually in a house.

If this theory is accurate, then what I really want to know is this: what happened to Tim as a child that made him temporarily a normal person? We do know that he was somewhat functional prior to the events of the student film.

I should think it was the pills if anything else. There was clearly no help from Mom (Jay's editorial comment "I have no idea what that means" in reading through the central findings of Tim's medical records in Entry #60.5 [what a shitty thing to do!] about Tim's mother's mention on the pediatric admission form of Tim's "possible disorder" was spot on--same with the "emotional" barrier to learning--what the fuck?). No Dad anywhere. Doctors didn't understand it, and there's probably far more we'll never know about what Tim went through. My guess: Electroshock and then the pills.

I wonder how Brian knew about the efficacy of the pills in combating The Operator's effects? Trial and error? Close observation (stalking) of Tim after being inaugurated into the joys of being hunted by Oppy? (Maybe Brian and Tim both woke up altered after the events of Entry #51, and they were so addled that the Hoody and Masky personae came to the fore [and eradicated all of the fun-loving character of Brian]?)

Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 4:13 pm

lonsumtravlr
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Ascalondion wrote:

AmbientGuy wrote:

Try this again: Am I the only one seeing TO standing down the street around 4:18-4:23 as Tim pulls up to his house?

There was a little bit at the end, too. But I didn't notice much. I wonder what that means.

Though as TO seems to love fire, you can probably expect the next entry to make up for the lack of distortion in this one.

Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 4:18 pm

lonsumtravlr
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awakeasaurusrex wrote:

A thought occurs: we do have at least one other reason to think that the idea that this is all Tim's fault and he's the source is merely a theory that Alex (and to a lesser extent Tim) have bought into, rather than the absolute truth, is the fact that Tim and Brian were buddies for years without Brian ever being "infected".

Regardless of whether The Operator is a physical manifestation of whatever's up with Tim, or whether he's an independent entity that just happened to latch on to Lil' Tim-Tims, if this is solely a matter of Tim being a plague carrier Brian should have been well and truly Slenderfied before Marble Hornets even began filming. He wasn't.

That suggests to me that something prompted the Operator to come out during the filming process. Possibly Alex had also had an Operator experience when he was younger which he had forgotten, and it was bringing Tim and Alex together which caused the outbreak (much like bringing two pieces of radioactive material together can kick off an uncontrolled chain reaction). Or maybe something happened which stopped Tim getting to his pills just long enough for the symptoms to come back. Either way, count me in with the "Alex is oversimplifying things way too much" camp: Tim can't be the sole factor in sparking what happened during the filming of MH, something more had to be going on.

"Lil' Tim-Tims"... Is THAC gonna be offering those in the store? Do Trosephim need any more ideas for further stretch goal rewards?

Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 4:20 pm

lonsumtravlr
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ziggazern wrote:

Smoking_Gnu wrote:

Yeah, but he went back there in Entries #65, #66, and #83 (though not by choice), and he ended up there in Entry #51.

One thing I've been wondering about is why Tim ever led people to the hospital site in the first place--and quite proudly to the grander building that he and Alex scouted in Entry #56 and he and Jay went back to in Entry #58--if the building in back was the site of so much pain for him? OOG, that hospital's one of the most notorious asylums in Alabama. But IG... I wonder. Unless he just felt some sort of connection to it and maybe also credited the doctors there (if that was the actual office part) with his improved mental health?

Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 4:24 pm

Ascalondion
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Smoking_Gnu wrote:

Yes, I stand corrected. His voice distorts a bit during the "YOU Left jay" at around 06:55, and there are some minor visual tears during the hole tirade. And now I was able to notice a more familiar audio tear at the moment Tim grabs his pills at 07:52.

Also, I don't think that "You know were to find me." is that bad. My first reaction was, that maybe Alex knows more of Tim's secret, maybe their secret place, or something. Or just Good Ol' Rosswood. Or - wait for it - Tim going through MOAR TAPES to find the location Alex was referencing. Very Happy

Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 5:08 pm

3tp
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wow. alex went really far in this entry...

Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 6:35 pm

Master of Octopi
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awakeasaurusrex wrote:

I was thinking that maybe it has to do with the way Tim feels about the person in question, considering that it has been posited that the Operator will appear during periods of emotional distress. Brian was Tim's first real friend (as has been said so many times it has almost lost all meaning), so maybe that fondness protected Brian? And Alex has always come off as a jerk to me, even when I first started watching. I had zero trouble believing that his angst-ridden rant to Tim and Sarah in the gazebo during Entry #9 was the way he actually was, despite Jay's insistence that it was unlike him. I further have no problem disbelieving that, soon after Tim's euphoria at having new friends wore off, Alex's bullying side came out and Tim's opinion of him changed, therefore removing whatever protection Tim's original friendship offered. The Operator took notice of Alex, and abandoned Tim in favor of a new person to torment.

It is worth noting that Jay didn't encounter the Operator personally until after he had interviewed Tim (unless I'm forgetting something), so who knows? Considering that the creators have said they wouldn't reveal the Operator's origins, I doubt we'll be able to to say with certainty.

lonsumtravlr wrote:

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One thing I've been wondering about is why Tim ever led people to the hospital site in the first place--and quite proudly to the grander building that he and Alex scouted in Entry #56 and he and Jay went back to in Entry #58--if the building in back was the site of so much pain for him? OOG, that hospital's one of the most notorious asylums in Alabama. But IG... I wonder. Unless he just felt some sort of connection to it and maybe also credited the doctors there (if that was the actual office part) with his improved mental health?

I think Tim was just excited to be included and, maybe for the first time, felt like he actually had something to offer.

Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 6:43 pm

Marble Hornets
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onetruepurple wrote:

Zarggg wrote:

This sort of post is not appropriate here. Consider this a warning.

People keep telling that to Marble Hornets with no consequences, why are they not getting warnings?

Don't drag me into your shitstorm, I haven't broken any rules

Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 7:08 pm

device
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Master of Octopi wrote:

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It is worth noting that Jay didn't encounter the Operator personally until after he had interviewed Tim (unless I'm forgetting something), so who knows? Considering that the creators have said they wouldn't reveal the Operator's origins, I doubt we'll be able to to say with certainty.

Entry 71. I'm pretty sure he encountered the operator when he first got the tapes from Alex.

Also, in Entry 17 Jay was feeling cold when the operator was standing just outside the window. Jay was around when the Operator encounters Alex at the pool building...

Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 7:30 pm

Sidenote
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Marble Hornets wrote:

onetruepurple wrote:

Zarggg wrote:

This sort of post is not appropriate here. Consider this a warning.

People keep telling that to Marble Hornets with no consequences, why are they not getting warnings?

Don't drag me into your shitstorm, I haven't broken any rules

He's talking about what other people say to you, not what you yourself say.

Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 7:41 pm

Teedub
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I wonder why Pravado switched accounts? Was he like getting embarrassed about his reputation or what?

Posted: Thu May 15, 2014 7:55 pm

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