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[VIDEO] Entry #85
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Jordan
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 		Can't sleep...Alex will get me....

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Jordan
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 		What was so heartbreaking to me was that Tim seemed to regain a sense of himself in this entry - we got a hint of the 'old' Tim here which Brian hung out here with his comment about filming himself, seeing Brian on the tape shook it loose somehow.

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adaminator1
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onetruepurple wrote:
Zarggg wrote:
This sort of post is not appropriate here. Consider this a warning.

People keep telling that to Marble Hornets with no consequences, why are they not getting warnings?


People don't go around telling him to kill himself. We may hate him, but we're not psychopaths.

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Jordan
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Master of Octopi wrote:
awakeasaurusrex wrote:
A thought occurs: we do have at least one other reason to think that the idea that this is all Tim's fault and he's the source is merely a theory that Alex (and to a lesser extent Tim) have bought into, rather than the absolute truth, is the fact that Tim and Brian were buddies for years without Brian ever being "infected".

Regardless of whether The Operator is a physical manifestation of whatever's up with Tim, or whether he's an independent entity that just happened to latch on to Lil' Tim-Tims, if this is solely a matter of Tim being a plague carrier Brian should have been well and truly Slenderfied before Marble Hornets even began filming. He wasn't.

That suggests to me that something prompted the Operator to come out during the filming process. Possibly Alex had also had an Operator experience when he was younger which he had forgotten, and it was bringing Tim and Alex together which caused the outbreak (much like bringing two pieces of radioactive material together can kick off an uncontrolled chain reaction). Or maybe something happened which stopped Tim getting to his pills just long enough for the symptoms to come back. Either way, count me in with the "Alex is oversimplifying things way too much" camp: Tim can't be the sole factor in sparking what happened during the filming of MH, something more had to be going on.


I was thinking that maybe it has to do with the way Tim feels about the person in question, considering that it has been posited that the Operator will appear during periods of emotional distress. Brian was Tim's first real friend (as has been said so many times it has almost lost all meaning), so maybe that fondness protected Brian? And Alex has always come off as a jerk to me, even when I first started watching. I had zero trouble believing that his angst-ridden rant to Tim and Sarah in the gazebo during Entry #9 was the way he actually was, despite Jay's insistence that it was unlike him. I further have no problem disbelieving that, soon after Tim's euphoria at having new friends wore off, Alex's bullying side came out and Tim's opinion of him changed, therefore removing whatever protection Tim's original friendship offered. The Operator took notice of Alex, and abandoned Tim in favor of a new person to torment.

It is worth noting that Jay didn't encounter the Operator personally until after he had interviewed Tim (unless I'm forgetting something), so who knows? Considering that the creators have said they wouldn't reveal the Operator's origins, I doubt we'll be able to to say with certainty.

lonsumtravlr wrote:

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One thing I've been wondering about is why Tim ever led people to the hospital site in the first place--and quite proudly to the grander building that he and Alex scouted in Entry #56 and he and Jay went back to in Entry #58--if the building in back was the site of so much pain for him? OOG, that hospital's one of the most notorious asylums in Alabama. But IG... I wonder. Unless he just felt some sort of connection to it and maybe also credited the doctors there (if that was the actual office part) with his improved mental health?


I think Tim was just excited to be included and, maybe for the first time, felt like he actually had something to offer.


Doesn't seem to have been brought up that much, I think it only real strikes us as being repetitive because we've waited so long between entries. But otherwise, good points Smile

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device wrote:
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It is worth noting that Jay didn't encounter the Operator personally until after he had interviewed Tim (unless I'm forgetting something), so who knows? Considering that the creators have said they wouldn't reveal the Operator's origins, I doubt we'll be able to to say with certainty.


Entry 71. I'm pretty sure he encountered the operator when he first got the tapes from Alex.

Also, in Entry 17 Jay was feeling cold when the operator was standing just outside the window. Jay was around when the Operator encounters Alex at the pool building...


Yep, I forgot about 17 and 71 (I like how they're reversed). That last is about Entry #13 though, right? Because the Operator doesn't show up until Jay runs to the car, if memory serves. Which it clearly doesn't. I wish I could get my wife to watch this series; her memory is far better than mine.

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 		I have to say I thoroughly enjoyed this and I think it sets us up perfectly for the end. Sure, Tim could have went for Alex right then and there, but then the series would be over now.

Joseph's acting has also come a very long way since the beginning of the series and I think this was his best acting yet.

As for what happens next. I believe it will be at Rosswood (likely the tunnel because that has been Alex's "spot" for a while and it would put things on his terms).

I am also not opposed to the idea of both Alex and Tim dying and then a mysterious person picking up the camera and uploading the video. I don't even think we ever need to find out who that person is. It would be a very Kubrick-esque ending (similar to the final shot of The Shining in that it's kind of a WTF moment that never really gets answered) and the guys have said before they are big Kubrick fans.

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awakeasaurusrex wrote:
A thought occurs: we do have at least one other reason to think that the idea that this is all Tim's fault and he's the source is merely a theory that Alex (and to a lesser extent Tim) have bought into, rather than the absolute truth, is the fact that Tim and Brian were buddies for years without Brian ever being "infected".
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Here's my theory. As a child, Tim was stalked by the Operator. At some point, however, his psychiatrists did.... something.... that made him functional.


One of the things I was thinking about is how anybody even knew Tim had been there as a patient. If you had been put in an asylum as a child, I doubt you'd ever tell anyone, even your best friend Brian. It's possible Hoody was able to get Masky to talk, but otherwise it's an odd loose end.

Chronologically, Tim and Alex are fine in 84. In Entry 9, Alex is seen already paranoid while Tim still seems fine. Then, in Entry 20, Tim is sick, while Alex seems fine. I think this is after Alex has lost it, and may be shortly before he calls Tim to go on their visit to the hospital. Between these entries, it can be assumed that Tim got more pills, or went back on them, or got stronger/different ones. It's probable that Brian saw/noticed this, and remembered it later when he saw Tim survived TO in Entry 51.

I think it's likely that TO had been following Tim at a distance for some time, and that he continued to follow Tim and Alex because they each were filming. I wouldn't be surprised if Seth had similar things happening to him, but we just never knew because he only filmed around Alex.

As for why Tim just stood there, it's actually a normal response to something like that. That's why you hear reports of people standing around gawking at accidents instead of springing into action.

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Jordan
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 		Not sure if I agree with you, there. There's still quite a bit to wrap up - perhaps Tim does kill Alex, but then The Operator begins to pursue Tim more aggressivily?

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 		Interesting point -- with the Operator at Alex's disposal, it's more than likely that any attempts to kill him would be met with failure and, perhaps, a worsening of the situation.

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adanufgail wrote:
One of the things I was thinking about is how anybody even knew Tim had been there as a patient. If you had been put in an asylum as a child, I doubt you'd ever tell anyone, even your best friend Brian. It's possible Hoody was able to get Masky to talk, but otherwise it's an odd loose end.


All Masky ever said was "Boo" and "No!" Hardly the most garrulous chap of the former Marble Hornets crew.

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gazza
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 		If Alex kills Tim, this may end up being the last entry. Nobody will be left to upload footage (Alex certainly won't considering he's trying to end this thing. Nor would it make sense for him to upload footage of himself committing murder).

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adanufgail wrote:


One of the things I was thinking about is how anybody even knew Tim had been there as a patient. If you had been put in an asylum as a child, I doubt you'd ever tell anyone, even your best friend Brian. It's possible Hoody was able to get Masky to talk, but otherwise it's an odd loose end.






I don't think anybody did know during the original MH shoot. I assume Alex knows now the same way we know: he's been watching the Marble Hornets Youtube channel.

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Oransel
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 		Underwhelming entry, IMO. Tim should have attacked Alex right there

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Janthran
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 		"I think it was Jay!"
Shoots Jay
"Nope! Maybe Brian?"
Throws Brian off a building
"..Must be Tim. That bastard..."
And until this was posted he probably thought it was someone else
wow

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gazza
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Janthran wrote:
"I think it was Jay!"
Shoots Jay
"Nope! Maybe Brian?"
Throws Brian off a building
"..Must be Tim. That bastard..."
And until this was posted he probably thought it was someone else
wow


Alex didn't throw Brian off a building. Brian fell after Tim attacked him.

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