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[VIDEO] Entry #85
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awakeasaurusrex wrote:

Serum wrote:

I think they probably used a special effects flammable, there's this kind (I forget what it's called.) that lights quickly, burns intensely, but also very briefly before going out completely. Typically when you see a house 'explode' in a movie or someone getting lit on fire on camera, they've been doused with this fluid.

That would be consistent with what we see - the way the flame propagates looks to me like what happens when you have a spill of a very volatile chemical - it's actually the vapour that's burning rather than the liquid. (Depending on what fuel they used, the vapour could stay close to the ground due to being heavier than air).

One thing they could do is absolutely soak the porch in water before pouring on the volatile fuel; the flammable fuel and fumes would sit on top of the water and burn, but the water would be a barrier between the flame and the porch itself. Probably they also had crew with fire extinguishers ready to jump in and extinguish the flames as soon as Tim turned away (they might even have dubbed in the audio as Tim flees in order to cover up the sound of the extinguishers).

There's a scene in the second Amityville movie, seen here in the trailer for the third film...

...they used some fast burning stuff to make it look like the house 'blew up' during the exorcism at the climax of Amityville II, but it didn't hurt the house too much. I've heard it got a little out of hand and it singed it bad enough the owners of that building had to repaint, but nothing inside was damaged as the fire only lasted about three seconds.

I'd say that's the stuff they used on the porch.

Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 12:58 pm

Sidenote
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also, there is a cut where tim looks up to see alex, and all the fluid isn't there any more when he's running away, with the camera pointing at the floor. It's a pretty weird cut too.

Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 1:01 pm

Marble Hornets
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suicide is not a joke and you should not joke about it. you were warned and joked about it again, what is wrong with you

Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 1:03 pm

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Sidenote wrote:

also, there is a cut where tim looks up to see alex, and all the fluid isn't there any more when he's running away, with the camera pointing at the floor. It's a pretty weird cut too.

Yeah, that's fairly simple to achieve. They probably used a dream machine lamp to create the illusion of the interior burning through the curtains as Tim ran to his car, as well.

Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 1:07 pm

PieAvenger
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TheJoker wrote:

I'm honestly not sure Alex even understands any of what's going on. His rant this latest entry about how Tim left Jay and Brian behind may have just been projecting the blame, but what if it's what he actually believes? What if he doesn't even realize all of what he's done, or honestly believes that for some reason it was necessary for him to kill those people?

Entry #51? I think that's what Alex meant by "You left Brian." After Brian finds Tim coughing in the little hospital room, the Operator appears and it looks like Tim made a run for it. As for leaving Jay, probably Entry #77/78.

I still kind of hang to the idea that we haven't seen everything yet. I have a secret wish that the "final entry" is gonna produce 1 or 2 more tapes that Alex has been hiding that explain things. And I know that Alex has more tapes. He has to. Jay didn't really look through his house thoroughly, and I doubt that Alex will come clean on Brian's intentions, the ARK, etc, and they can't ask Hoody because he's possibly dead.

So I believe the final answers will be given in the form of more tapes. Tapes that Alex has been hiding for a while. Tapes about Brian and his intentions being Hoody. Tapes about Alex and why his behavior has changed so much, how he knew that Tim and Jay were in the tunnel at Rosswood (#64/#65), why Jay got so aggressive after the events of #82.

There are just so many questions omg

Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 2:33 pm

lonsumtravlr
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PieAvenger wrote:

Alex is the person who dragged Brian's seemingly lifeless body into that room (is it even the same room that Tim was found in?), picked the camera up, and walked out of the hospital. Look at the shoes. Alex wears blue sneaks with white stripes and non-matching shoelaces. I think by "You left Brian" Alex means that because everything started with Tim, then everything's Tim's fault, even the bad stuff that Alex did.

Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 5:47 pm

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Aeliott wrote:

It's also probably just nothing, but I found Brian's answer of "it's just Brian" to what his full name is a bit bizarre...does he have a proper name? Was he bonkers even back then, just with good ability to socialise? He's also the one that encouraged Tim to get involved with Alex's project. It could have all just been his idea of fun though. I don't know. But ultimately I do find it hard to believe Brian's story stops there. Dead or alive there's got to be something more from his character.

Yeah, I'd wondered whether there wasn't something more to that too the first couple of times I watched the entry. But while everything and anything is open to analysis (or at least can, will, and does trigger analysis), the relevance of each thing doesn't necessarily stand up to that analysis. I think Brian was just being funny. (At least, funny if he really was [and seemed to be] the fun-loving, good guy that I think most fans of the series see him as. If he wasn't, then he was a major asshole even then.)

Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 5:52 pm

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i find it odd that he laughs afterwards, like it was a joke.

Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 6:17 pm

Serum
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I'm still not convinced Hoody is dead. I mean, if he is-- that doesn't make much sense to like, off him without unmasking him.

Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 6:22 pm

lonsumtravlr
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Sidenote wrote:

i find it odd that he laughs afterwards, like it was a joke.

I kinda thought he looked a little bit oppressive here, as if he had some sort of control over Tim. Granted, that's after reading Entry #83 back in time and into this one.

Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 6:32 pm

slendydreaming
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I have been reading so many threads since I joined this forum, enjoying them, but I am seriously disgusted with what Serum suggested about MH (the user)! He has caused trouble in the past but from what I've seen he's improved quite a bit, but even if he hadn't, telling someone to kill themselves is wrong, pure and simple! I honestly don't understand why, if you have a problem with another member, either 1. tell a mod about it or 2. ignore said post, it's really not that difficult! I haven't said anything before now because I've been trying to ignore the drama, but if this is the way people are going to act, maybe I should just leave.

Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 6:56 pm

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slendydreaming wrote:

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Oh, relax, I've apologized for my tasteless comments, which even I'll admit were in poor taste because hanging around you people fills me with liberal guilt. I'm sorry User Marble Hornets, you are a valuable (if uncouth, but so am I) member of our community and I'm actually lashing out at my own idiotic shortcomings. There. I said it.

Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 7:02 pm

adaminator1
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slendydreaming wrote:

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I think we have a different definition of the word "Improved". "Lessened, very, very slightly" would be a more appropriate term. And telling the mod about the member has always resulted in nothing.

The reason I have a problem with the Marble Hornets user is he is almost always hostile and that makes coming here feel like a chore instead of interacting with a good community. Telling him to kill himself is fucking wrong, though, and I really hate that it was taken that far. At the very least maybe it'll get the mods off of their lazy asses and do something about this whole recurring mess instead of ignoring pleas from the community to respond in some way or another entirely. I'm sick of it. You're sick of it. We're all sick of it. Something needs to be done. And that's all I've got to say on the matter.

That and ignoring something that constantly recurs is difficult. I want to have fun on Unfiction. To visit here and have someone constantly impede on that fun for no reason other than "It's the internet hurr duurrr" is tiring, no matter which way you slice it.

Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 7:14 pm
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Serum
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adaminator1 wrote:

slendydreaming wrote:

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Now, now, let's be honest. I'd been away for awhile so I didn't know how much User Marble Hornets had improved, or lessened or whatever, so my bad. And if I'm admitting fault, then there's fault at my hands, so, once again-- I apologize, please forgive me. Besides, we need users like User Marble Hornets to even out our raging fanboyisms sometimes, anyway. Sometimes we put Trosephim up on an unnecessarily high pedestal and it's up to User Marble Hornets (and those like him) to remind us, that the show Marble Hornets and its creators are not infallible. Except Tim. You know what I'm saying. We all lose our shit from time to time in the heat of the moment.

Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 7:17 pm

lonsumtravlr
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slendydreaming wrote:

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I don't have a problem with it because it's just a message board, and on other boards I've been told much worse (there actually is worse--especially when you actually get to know some fellow posters in person; there's someone telling you to off yourself and someone who tells you something that makes you want to off yourself, and in most cases one is clearly worse than the other). I don't go around suggesting it to others, and I'm pretty damn sure that no one here really wants anyone else to actually act upon it (I myself don't, anyway). But the only real issue to be had with it is whether Unfiction or at least the mods of a particular board outlaw it. If it's against their rules, it shouldn't be done.

I can almost envision someone creating an Unfiction Marble Hornets version of a rather infamous Chick pamphlet that fostered misunderstanding of the Dungeons and Dragons craze long ago (that it was the "gateway game" into Satanism and encouraged players to kill themselves) out of this. (If you've never seen the pamphlet, you should Google it. One of the dumbest, vilest, most hysteria-inciting things written [if it didn't circulate among a very small subsection of an already small group of Christian fundamentalists, that is].)

I really don't give a shit whether Serum and MarbleHornets are different people than each other or are two of pravado's twenty odd personalities or sock puppets or whatever (the styles are all different, though that doesn't mean that someone can't be a talented writer and write in several different voices, but, still). They're entertaining as hell, even though I don't really care for MarbleHornets's cantankerous GIFnastics or self-certainty about why every other poster's observation is wrong, dumb as hell, or wrong and dumb as hell. And whoever says "Just ignore them and don't get emotionally involved" is rather wise (so far as message board wisdom goes). Because Marble Hornets the series/ARE is wrapping up very soon, and those of us who are here to post observations and discuss theories and how we're excited or disappointed or somehow both and neither about how the final arc's closing should be focusing on that. I didn't create my account for any of that other horseshit. I created it to take a break from work or to hope to break writer's block by discussing one of my favorite series with others who I assume hold it among their favorite series, or are at least fans of it.

Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 7:37 pm

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