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[CityMusic]

Do you think Tim has to die to stop all this?

[SilentMedusa]

I don't really think Tim has to die, because after Alex moved away back in '06, everything was quiet for three years. It didn't start up again until Jay started snooping around. Unless we find out in the next entry the we were wrong in our assumption that Alex was leading a normal, Operator-free life until the events of #26.

[Cyan507]

Only really one of them has to go. If Alex dies, no one else is killed. If Tim dies, maybe no one else will be haunted by TO. One theory is that if and when Tim kills Alex the grief and guilt of the events that transpired will prove too much and Tim will take his own life with Alex's gun, an ending I highly doubt THAC will come out with. I don't Tim to have to die, he seems to be the biggest victim in this. He deserves a shot at a normal life methinks.

Although Tim has the medicine, perhaps if be kills Alex and continues to go on a regular dosage it may nullify the presence of TO and confine it to it's own reality, never to return unless of course the MH movie takes place after the series.

[awakeasaurusrex]

I am 99.99% sure Tim is going to survive this, purely based on the structure of the series.

THAC have assured us that the series will have a clear, definitive ending. One of the characters needs to upload that ending, and we have an increasing shortage of characters at the moment. I honestly don't think we're going to get Jessica or Jay or Brian back at this point so the options are:

Tim posts the final video. The likely scenario here, to my mind, is that Tim and Alex face off, some Operator-related fuckery happens, and by the end of it Alex is dead. Tim tells us that he's not going to be posting any more videos because with Alex dead, Jay's unfinished business is dealt with and that's a fitting point to stop recording. Possibly he concludes by warning viewers not to try and come find him, because he intends to try and cut himself off from human contact (or kill himself if THAC want to go bleak) to stop this ever happening again.

Alex posts the final video. In which case Tim is probably a goner. At the same time, I don't think this would quite make sense. Alex doesn't seem to have any motivation or desire to keep the rest of the world informed about what's going on here - if he did, he'd have his own YouTube channel putting up his side of the story. So why would he bother posting the last video? Unless there's a final twist to Alex's motivations that hasn't been revealed yet, it'd feel like Alex's behaviour and intentions being subverted for the sake of the series format, which would be a clumsy move in my reckoning.

The Operator posts the final video. Nope, sorry, doesn't work, the mental image of ol' slim and faceless sat at a computer uploading stuff to YouTube would be so atmosphere-wrecking that it's just not going to happen.

Someone else posts the final video. Problem here is that there really aren't any good options left unless someone comes back from the dead (which would raise too many questions this late in the game) or appears from out of nowhere. Unless, of course...

Masky posts the final video. In which case Tim's final message to the viewers is likely to be tripped-out TTA-style weirdness.

[gennerx]

I think everyone involved needs to either die or get their memory wiped for it to end. TO wants to hide his existence and won't stop until everyone involved forgets him. Of course there's no guarantee it will end. The last character alive could be tormented endlessly.

[DHawk314]

Tim seemingly spread it to Alex in 84, who subsequently spread it to the Marble Hornets cast and crew, as well as Jessica. Alex tried to kill them seemingly because he believed that killing them would let him put everything behind him because no one else could spread it. He also seemingly succeeded, except for Brian, whose death seemed to have been accidental. However, now he believes killing Tim will somehow cure him, retroactively or something. Obviously this is heavily dipped in the insane murderer logic Alex loves to indulge in.

But why should we believe killing the source will stop this? If it is like a disease, it shouldn't work like that at all. First of all, even if Tim spread it to all the known characters, I find it unlikely he's literally the original source with some special tie to the Operator. Especially since the Operator movie is supposed to be in the same universe, and involved completely separate people. Also, I just find it much more interesting and intuitive that the Operator is more of a universal thing, especially since he spawned from the Something Awful forum's original Slender Man.

But maybe it doesn't matter if Tim is the "original" source in general for the world. Perhaps him being the source for the cast means killing him will fix things for the remaining cast, I.E. Alex. Alex was seemingly the direct source for everyone else, so we've had no previous example of such thing happening. Alex has not yet died. Jay could be argued as the source for Jessica, but we haven't seen her since Jay died, so there's no way of knowing if his death cured her if she happens to be alive.

I find it unlikely though. I don't think Alex can ever cure himself while alive. I'm not certain Tim can either, but he does have some happy ending inertia due to his being the only good guy left. Also, for the reasons mentioned earlier involving someone needing to post the ending, I do agree that it's unlikely he'll die before the series's literal ending is posted, at the very least.

[PieAvenger]

Well, from Entry #66, we learn that Tim might have more to do with the appearance of the Operator than we thought. He blames himself, saying that everybody could have a normal life if it wasn't for him. He thinks he somehow brought the Operator to life, or "thought" him into existence, which is a really strange, stretch theory.

However, we must pay attention to what the other characters have said or done.

Tim claims to have seen "something" as a kid. Jessica (Entry #32) claims to have dreams that she's a kid and "something" is watching her. Even in Entry #37, we catch a glimpse of Alex at his birthday party with the implication that the Operator is watching him as well. Either the end of the video was edited by Hoody, or there really was distortion there at the end caused by the Operator, either way the implication is present.

So maybe the Operator business is not entirely Tim's fault. And in fact, if Tim has to die to get rid of the Operator, then by that logic, Alex and Jessica must die as well because they are also tied with it in some way.

[searchanddestroy]

Obviously. He's the only one posting entries.

[lonsumtravlr]

[Cyan507]

[TheJoker]

In the borderline-unbreakable coded message from Surveillance earlier this season.

[lonsumtravlr]

What TheJoker mentioned is one of a couple of instances in which TTA at least hinted that Jessica might be alive. The "She's Out There" message really doesn't sound like an affirmation that Jay will find TO (The One).

There's also the fact, and I don't know what to make of it, that "Conversion" contains a brief scene from Entry #76 before that entry is posted.

Cyan507, take a look at the end of the Entry #76 tape. The perspectives don't make sense. Who's filming? Why wasn't that individual taken by TO? Who got the footage of Alex getting his gun back? Why was this one TO appearance from earlier in the tape and unlike the other abductions? It seems as if it's intended to be an IG forgery.

[Cyan507]

[DHawk314]

[Cyan507]