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kadomony
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Oh wow, more coincidences with the research into subterranean entrances! I remember reading some info on those holes that appeared and one theory was that it was due to out-gassing from the crust.

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DrCranky
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I'm stuck and have been for a few days. I don't think I'm at the end. I've been lurking here but I didn't want to spoil anything with my questions. But it looks like we're all at about the same place now so I really hope I'm not giving away anything.

I've read all the files on Alfa-arkiv and refused to give Yuri the photo files. Now the game seems to have stalled. Yuri said I'm now with the sisterhood. One of the sisters asked me a series of questions to see if I had been paying attention. I passed her quiz but then she said she was done with me for now.

So- all files read. All users on Alfa-arkiv are now offline (and seemingly done with me). Anyone gotten further than this? Should I have given Yuri the files? There doesn't seem to be a way to go back and do it now.

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adolgonosov
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DrCranky wrote:
I'm stuck and have been for a few days. I don't think I'm at the end. I've been lurking here but I didn't want to spoil anything with my questions. But it looks like we're all at about the same place now so I really hope I'm not giving away anything.

I've read all the files on Alfa-arkiv and refused to give Yuri the photo files. Now the game seems to have stalled. Yuri said I'm now with the sisterhood. One of the sisters asked me a series of questions to see if I had been paying attention. I passed her quiz but then she said she was done with me for now.

So- all files read. All users on Alfa-arkiv are now offline (and seemingly done with me). Anyone gotten further than this? Should I have given Yuri the files? There doesn't seem to be a way to go back and do it now.


This is as far as I've gotten. I think it's more likely to be the starting line than the end, though. We just have to wait for something to pull the trigger. There is a ton of stuff for us to pour over in the meantime though. These documents seem to have a lot written between the lines, and I think understanding them fully will help us immensely in the future.

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Sevren
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Sorry for my inactive weekend, I've been busy. I've read all your posts, in this thread and the others, and I'm very impressed and confused. Also angry; I really wish I could keep up the pace, but I don't have any iOS device. Maybe I can borrow an iPod, but their iOS version is old, and I'm not sure it will be able to run Alfa-Arkiv.

BTW, i've been screening your intel analysis, pretty interesting stuff you've found, I will try to keep up the pace and if I come up with fresh ideas, post them. Do you have any clues about what we should do next?

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kadomony
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Sevren wrote:
Sorry for my inactive weekend, I've been busy. I've read all your posts, in this thread and the others, and I'm very impressed and confused. Also angry; I really wish I could keep up the pace, but I don't have any iOS device. Maybe I can borrow an iPod, but their iOS version is old, and I'm not sure it will be able to run Alfa-Arkiv.

BTW, i've been screening your intel analysis, pretty interesting stuff you've found, I will try to keep up the pace and if I come up with fresh ideas, post them. Do you have any clues about what we should do next?


Right there with you lol, was able to get an iPad for a couple days but of course iTunes store had an error when I tried to send payment.

Regarding refusing to give Yuri the pics, this seems to be the decision point to choose your faction. I'm sure it's linked with your Apple ID, IP, or both, so you're pretty much stuck with your decision unless you find a way around that *cough cough*.

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adolgonosov
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kadomony wrote:
I'm sure it's linked with your Apple ID, IP, or both, so you're pretty much stuck with your decision unless you find a way around that *cough cough*.


I think it is also probably linked with your TRU-COM account, which you also use with Alpha-Cipher.
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kadomony
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adolgonosov wrote:
kadomony wrote:
I'm sure it's linked with your Apple ID, IP, or both, so you're pretty much stuck with your decision unless you find a way around that *cough cough*.


I think it is also probably linked with your TRU-COM account, which you also use with Alpha-Cipher.


That too.

Meta: If the sisters were raised from birth being "indoctrinated" with shapes, colors, etc for PsyOps control and eventually breaking free, using these "lessons" against their teachers, could we now be training our own minds with these symbols as blank slates, ready for either side to use?

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Kaidok5797
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I'm stuck as well. I got here by trying to search for help. I did unfortunately give the files away, however I was asked some questions too, and the last one "what was the name of the woman who distributed the photos of the woman with the baby?" Before I could even think to answer I got a message from Raskovnik saying basically I've finished the archive and made my choices. It also mentions that Rhea and her baby are both alive and well. The message ends with the statement "looks like this war is gonna go from Russia/Ukraine to USA now" at which point both Yuri and Raskovinik both signed off and I've been stuck ever since thinking I made the wrong choice and it was already all over for me. I really hope this isn't true. The weird thing is the communications indicator at the bottom left still shows as one person being online, but when I tap it, none of my contacts show as being online. I don't know if the app is stuck, I made the wrong choice giving up the files, or I just nene to be patient and wait. Thoughts???

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Sevren
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I'm still hoping I can get my hands in an iPad so I can check it out myself, but probably this is just to "define" the two factions that will clash in the following events.

Probably those who cooperate with Yuri will be contacted by the Men of Taste later on, while those who kept the information from Yuri will be contacted by the Junsui. In both cases, I think it's just a matter of waiting

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(OOG, I guess they are "rallying forces" for each side, and will let the app run a little longer... Who know, maybe even release on Android Razz)


About being an user online, it sounds like its yourself. I mean, only 1 logged into Alfa Arkiv, you.

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sergio37
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we have time to read then, there's a lot of background info released

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adolgonosov
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I just found this exchange in an old thread:

from 5 years ago wrote:

XXXXX Morales wrote
at 1:25pm
I think we should focus on figuring out what locations can match each symbol on the Junsui's banner. About the video, it's the first time something related to the coordinates puzzle proves useful, so we shouldn't discard any of those locations as possible targets of the Junsui.

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I am not suggesting members discard anything, Mr. Morales. Even their disinformation seems to be laden often times with their operational and tactical commands...

What I do mean to stress is that our organization is not running a bordello as suggested by this absurd fabrication. It is true that our remote access is not given via our company's front page and that this is only a faux login to protect access from outsiders. But the idea that we would conceal the entry within an escort service for an Arabic country is just ludicrous.

Dig up anything you can on these symbols and correlations they bear to locations. And possibly individual operatives' identities? We will be back with more briefings as we approach early morning time in MSK.

We have all our people on this. We have to eliminate the threat the moment we know how.


Guess we should have listened, because that's exactly what we're doing now.

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Sevren
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I suggest oppening a new threat to "start clean". Post the 7 glyphs and whatever correlations with places and Junsui operatives we can come up with, brainstorm style.

I believe some locations are hinted in the links published in pinterest glyphs' pictures, and about who they are related to, I think you already matched most of them, out of the information you read on Alfa Arkiv. I still don't have access to the app... But today I should have time to read files 3 and 4, the ones remaining for me.

If I can, I will create the thread during this morning.

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kadomony
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adolgonosov wrote:

Guess we should have listened, because that's exactly what we're doing now.


Did we really have enough information back then to do so? Maybe we just missed a bunch Embarassed

Now that we have all this new media, should be pretty fun to put everything together and maybe check out some relations to old stuff.

Sevren, I'll keep an eye out for the thread. I was planning to create a little database this week, but got busy at work. I'll definitely post some glyph info in the thread.

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The correlation between glyph and geographic coordinate is interesting idea. I remember much being made of "geolocation" in 2009 although only one glyph and element actually had explicit coordinates: the conception with fire (red triangle) which showed on the Google page before it opened up to the white room video,

On the subject of glyph-element associations:

I have seen two posts now on Vera's Instagram / Facebook feed which lead me to believe that while any of the seven glyphs is most strongly associated with a particular element (e.g. REBIRTH + Body; MARTYRDOM + Fire) they can also be combined with the other elements to yield possibly different meanings.

http://instagram.com/p/rBD6BKiFPt/



Vera Instagram wrote:
To see through their SKY EYES. To be LOVED but never TAMED. #AlfaArkiv #ipad bit.ly/alfa­-arkiv

#KitsuneOfFire #fox #TheSisterhood #girls #BlessedLeader #loveher #NewReality #truth #JunkoJunsui #beautiful #LittleBird #mother #AlfaCipher #AlfaTsentr #Russia #LasSGG #Chile #FEMEN #Ukraine #face #eye #portrait #photooftheday #jj #webstagram #tweegram #instagood #quote


Observe that one of the hashtags is "Kitsune of Fire".

This makes sense in the context of the image I suppose since there is an eye (associated with glyph KITSUNE) staring through a triangle (associated with element FIRE).

Not sure what the exact meaning is here but it seems that by retaining the character of their foxes (cleverness? empathy? wildness? learning?) they also maintain a fearlessness towards sacrifice of fire?

Maybe a bit of a stretch but all such interpretations are bound towards subjectivity. Wink

A second example from a recent post:

http://instagram.com/p/ragIMyiFMd



Vera Instagram wrote:
#CZARGRAD - OZERO / PUTINIST IDEA that #MOSCOW is the 'THIRD ROME' after CONSTANTINOPLE. But SHE kept HER FOX'S EYES while DIGGING IN THE DIRT.

pinterest.com/blessedleader/czargrad

#YamantauOfSky #Beloretsk #blueeyes #dirt #mountain #BlessedLeader #loveher #JunkoJunsui #beautiful #LasSGG #Chile #FEMEN #Ukraine #NewReality #truth #AlfaTsentr #stopRussia #AlfaArkiv #girl #feminism #portrait #photooftheday #jj #webstagram #tweegram #instagood #quote #look


Again, an association of a glyph, this time YAMANTAU (evil mountain) with the unassociated element Sky in the hashtag "Yamantau of Sky".

In contrast to my previous example, the memory of their fox is not invoked in the glyph but in the element (SKY). You can see this element represented in the image by both the blue circles and her (Vera's?) blue eyes.

The meaning probably parallels the narrative in the archive journals of Rhea: after the girls left their school at Kosvinsky Kamen with the foxes, they kept the animals' memory or spirits alive despite the degradations at Yamantau. But Rhea also associates this element with "learning".

http://issuu.com/lassgg/docs/04______archivo_completo/c/s8fohxr

АРХИВ-020162275_22.08.2009 DETAINEE CONFESSION 004 wrote:
It all started with blue. With Sky. With learning.

The first time we ever saw the sky was when we left the school we had always lived in and moved to another deep inside the mountain.


So possibly although the glyphs and elements have a close associative pair they retain their own unique meanings.

In summary I am suggesting that there might be 7x7 = 49 possible glyph-element pairs, each with their own unique compound meaning.

EDIT: If your location theory is correct, perhaps this means 49 locations??

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adolgonosov
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Wow, Vercingetorix_Gergovia, that was brilliant. Element combinations make a lot of sense, and it looks like Vera is being pretty explicit about them with her hashtags.

That got me thinking again about the symbol from the fake google. If different glyph/element dyads do indeed point to locations, then would CONCEPTION of FIRE Yamantau as a location?



That's the glyph for conception, the triangle for fire, and the coordinates for Yamantau -- possibly all three pieces.

It's strange though. Yamantau is a glyph in and of itself, which is hard to reconcile with it also being a location indicated by conception-fire. Also, reading through the Alfa-Arkiv documents, I got the sense that Yamantau and Earth were a natural dyad.

Vercingetorix_Gergovia wrote:

In summary I am suggesting that there might be 7x7 = 49 possible glyph-element pairs, each with their own unique compound meaning.


I love this idea. Maybe we should make a 7x7 table and try to fill in what gaps we can with locations.

We might also want to try to identify all 7 natural glyph-element dyads (e.g. fox-sky). Or maybe that should be a glyph-element-sister triad, since we know that each element may also be associated with one of the Junsui (e.g. Vera-fire, Oksana-sky)?

I feel like if we get it all in front of us we might start seeing some patterns.

Excellent work!

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