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[VIDEO] Entry #86
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Cyan507
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thatslenderdude wrote:
Marble Hornets wrote:

couldn't tell you. but it's definitely there. sounded like two voices overlapping each other played in reverse

I think you are talking about the overlapping voice at 8:43. it is alex saying "how does it feel to have one of your friends die?"


nope 9:31

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Nathanial
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Jordan wrote:

Just a final word:

I enjoyed this entry immensly and I'm sure most Marble Hornets fans did as well. But, well, it's not a good look for Marble Hornets and the mythos at large to feature a stabbing or show the violent aftermath so soon after the terrible recent events. It's publicity which the mythos do not need. No rational human being denies that those poor little girls aren't right in the heads, but art seemingly imitating life isn't a good look either. I know Troseph have a lot of demands on their time, but honestly, I think it would have been the best, softening the dramitic impact or not, reshooting the scene and having Alex meet his fate in some other fashion.

That's my final word on the subject.


Oh, please. Not to be insensitive to the stabbings, I feel bad for the victim and my thoughts are with the families going through that, but MH shouldn't be censored or changed because of two little nutjobs.

They've been doing their thing for years and have had things planed out for ... what a year now? I don't think it's insensitive, I think they should be able to finish their artwork/project the way they invisioned and not be censored because a couple kids with lack of proper parenting scapedgoated Slenderman for their psychosis.

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 		Wow, amazing. Bravo!

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lonsumtravlr
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DHawk314 wrote:
Man Tim's leg cannot catch a break.


That's right! It's the same one that Alex broke, isn't it!

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lonsumtravlr
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Sha Noran wrote:
Wow, amazing. Bravo!


Especially on a shoestring budget! Imagine what they could do with a budget and a much larger cast!

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device
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 		I was so afraid I would be dissapointed in this entry; I was so pleased to be wrong.

I'm impressed that brain-scrambled Brian/Hoody was such a master manipulator. In a way it's a funny situation: the semi-proxy Hoody having two proxies of his own.

He kept Masky around by witholding Tim's meds: He used him as muscle, primarily, it seems. (in Tim's medical records it says Tim was in pain a lot, aggravated by talking; it could be that Masky felt this pain return every time Tim went off his meds.)

Through his video hints he not only kept Jay obsessed with the mystery, and kept him from just leaving the area, but Jay ended up helping him in his investigation. And later, when Jay started going off the rails, he set him up to confront Alex, probably in the hopes that one would kill the other.

I think at the beginning he suspected that Alex was the primary source of the operator, then he began to suspect Tim. That's when he started dropping the "liar" hints so strongly to Jay.

In a lot of ways, Tim is just as much a victim as any of them: his crime was running away from the problem, and not letting anyone else know about the dangers they could possible be facing. He knowingly exposed everyone else (although maybe he didn't know it could spread at first? possibly his amnesia led him to forget quite a bit).

And, once he found out the properties of his medication he really did try to help Jay... he nagged at Jay to get an appt. for his "hallucinations" (which he probably knew very well weren't) and gave it to him when Jay was recovering in the hotel room.

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 		We might get a TTA style video after this (from the unnamed proxy who uploaded this video) but I think this is pretty much it. The ark is death. I think keeping it vague enough to spawn arguments is deliberate.I said from the beginning that everyone dieing was the most likely outcome. Tim does setup the movie nicely by pointing out that there's probably more then one source.

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 		Also, this entry screws the lid on even tighter on Hoody = Brian. No more stupid theories that Hoody is someone else.
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Ascalondion
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 		Can anyone make out what Alex says at 08:43? "How does it feel ~to have your own friend to kill~?

Any why is he saying this? The last time we saw BRIAN (i.e. unhoodyfied Brian) ingame was when ALEX lured him to the hospital. Where is this "here", where Tim is supposedly left Brian to die slowly?

Or is this just TO taunting Tim to kill Alex? But if so, why so? Why would TO want Alex dead? Because he has his favorite pet (Tim) back?

Also, that's some badass wallpaper material from that scene:
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gennerx
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ledzepfilm wrote:
Also, this entry screws the lid on even tighter on Hoody = Brian. No more stupid theories that Hoody is someone else.


The real Hoody is alive and uploaded this video!
.........not really.

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awakeasaurusrex
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 		Re: [VIDEO] Entry #86
My thoughts (without spoiler tags, you shouldn't be reading ten pages deep into an Entry thread if you haven't watched the entry already):

What impressed me with this one, as well as Hoody's Chase of Doom a few entries back, is how they put so many entries which otherwise seemed a bit like filler into context. Specifically, all those long, repeated explorations of Rosswood, Benedict Hall and the Hospital were necessary in order to teach and reinforce in our minds a sense of how those places are laid out and what they look like, so when teleportation craziness starts happening we can get a context for just how crazy it is.

Thoughts on who the Mystery Uploader is:

- I don't think either Tim or Alex are still alive. Alex is fairly clearly dead. As far as Tim goes, the way they constructed that shot, and in particular the way he drops the knife when the last ounce of strength leaves his body, seems pretty damn final to me. I think it's possible that either Alex or Tim is the mystery uploader after getting medical attention, but it's incredibly unlikely. They'd have needed to get medical attention very, very quickly after the entry finished, and if nobody heard the gunshots (seems likely given how deserted the campus is), there'd be no reason for the emergency services to randomly appear to save the day.

- I also think that the Operator is an unlikely choice. Dude's never shown himself to be particularly tech-savvy (if anything, his effects on electronics would make uploading stuff to YouTube difficult), and it'd humanise him too much.

- Tim seemed to suggest to Alex that Alex had failed to kill someone connected with the phenomenon in his attempt to purge it. I am 99.9999% sure that that whoever that person is is the mystery uploader.

- It is possible that this is some character who has never appeared in the series yet because Tim and Jay deliberately concealed their existence for the sake of protecting them from Alex. But that would be immensely dissatisfying and I don't think the boys would do that.

- If it is someone we already know, then it follows that one of Alex's murder attempts failed - he thinks he succeeded at killing someone but failed. It's even possible that Tim knows who that person is, but has deliberately made sure all mentions of their survival have been kept off the Entries in order to make sure that Alex doesn't target whoever it is. Perhaps that apparently-filler Entry about Tim and Jay heading out of town coincided with them going on a road trip to track down that person?

- Sarah and Seth are possibilities, but on balance seem too minor to bring back at this stage since more or less nothing has happened in connection with them since season 1; it would give more impact to include a more prominent character.

- The Entries have gone out of their way to show us the dead bodies of Jay and Brian, so they're out of the picture.

- Jessica's death seems the least clear-cut out of all of them, as has regularly been pointed out on here - and I can see Jay insisting that they keep Jessica's survival secret, if Jay and Tim managed to find her when they were still working together.

- Amy might be an interesting possibility - we haven't seen her death on-camera so it would make sense if Alex hadn't actually finished the job, particularly since it'd be emotionally more difficult for him to kill her than any of the others.

- Given that whoever-it-is has trivially managed to gain access to the MH YouTube and Twitter, I think it is highly likely that they are part of totheark; the last entry may include some explanation of what totheark is/was, what the ark was, what they believe they have accomplished by all this and what they reckon the Operator will do next, all in that deliciously distinctive TTA style.

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aidansean
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Lithp wrote:
PieAvenger wrote:
WHO UPLOADED THE ENTRY?!

OMGGG.

I'M DYING.

So much action!! Sarah, Seth, Amy, Jessica confirmed dead? Jessica is dead too? ;_;

I never expected a knife to win against a gun. Then again, it was Jay's knife! Metaphor confirmed!


Jay got that knife from Tim in the first place.


In case this hasn't been corrected yet: Jay had the knife in Entry #23, and whoever put Jay back into his car took the knife, at by Entry #35 Masky/Tim had the knife.

Did anyone else notice that Alex teleported both himself and Tim at will? That was pretty awesome.

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Jordan
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Nathanial wrote:
Jordan wrote:

Just a final word:

I enjoyed this entry immensly and I'm sure most Marble Hornets fans did as well. But, well, it's not a good look for Marble Hornets and the mythos at large to feature a stabbing or show the violent aftermath so soon after the terrible recent events. It's publicity which the mythos do not need. No rational human being denies that those poor little girls aren't right in the heads, but art seemingly imitating life isn't a good look either. I know Troseph have a lot of demands on their time, but honestly, I think it would have been the best, softening the dramitic impact or not, reshooting the scene and having Alex meet his fate in some other fashion.

That's my final word on the subject.


Oh, please. Not to be insensitive to the stabbings, I feel bad for the victim and my thoughts are with the families going through that, but MH shouldn't be censored or changed because of two little nutjobs.

They've been doing their thing for years and have had things planed out for ... what a year now? I don't think it's insensitive, I think they should be able to finish their artwork/project the way they invisioned and not be censored because a couple kids with lack of proper parenting scapedgoated Slenderman for their psychosis.


I think we're just going to agree to disagree on this - on the internet, so we'll see how we go Smile

But, well, I can just picture some hack journalist trying to drum up the mythos as corrupting young minds and using entry #86 as an example (despite that the boys really held back on the violence throughout the series, so this entry would make one helluva an impact), tarnishing the mythos, it's fanbase and it's creators in the proccess. It was an unfortune concidence, but well, such is life and I just don't think the boys have really stopped to consider how their work might be percieved. Sometimes, these things have to be done, artistic vision withstanding.

But...okay...shutting up about it now. Completly.

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kira1000
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 		I personally think that the next entry (assuming there is one) could be another piece of the code (most likely the final piece needed to decode everything). I am fairly sure that there is a code in one of the TTA videos that has yet to be solved but I could be wrong.

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awakeasaurusrex
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Lithp wrote:
Yeah, after the incident that Marble Hornets described, they met back at the hotel & then The Operator mindwiped them, which totally doesn't fit with this "disease that causes paranoia & violence" thing, but whatever.

To be fair, memory loss has been a hallmark since season 1 featured incidents which Jay insisted he didn't remember.

Also, wiping people's memories is a great way to keep them confused, paranoid and disorientated. Jay and Jessica didn't even know whether they could trust each other when they found themselves in the hotel room with their memory of the last few months gone, for instance.

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