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[VIDEO] Entry #86
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JustJim
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I'd like to think that if Tim were dead and that was the ending, we'd have seen The Slender Man take his body. He had just taken Alex's, and it would have been in keeping with how deaths are treated in the series. And they certainly left a long enough window of time and a perfectly-framed shot for it to happen. I was waiting for it.

On one hand, I wouldn't be too shocked if that was it and Tim was supposed to be dead, but it just feels like they would would handle such a moment with a lot more certainty.

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MC_Loki
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Several points.

1. Tim is alive. TO didn't take him away at the end of the tape. He was phone.
2. TTA=Brian=dead. I'm willing to concede that Tim was part of TTA in the early days but he isn't any more.
3.a. Haven't seen this brought up yet, but there was some dialogue which seemed like a send up to the other vblogs. TO wants to be spread like a disease. Anyone exposed to it is at risk. This has been up on Youtube for the better part of five years, and there's plenty out there who are now exposed.
3.b. Tim isn't going to kill himself because of that very reason. There's too many people he'd have to kill.
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Intense is the only word I could find to describe it.

I don't want this to be the end, there's still a couple of questions we need answers to.

Now that Alex's dead what's next? I'm pretty sure Tim ain't dead he just passed out.

Notice that MH twitter didn't include the title "Entry #86" when twitted the link to the video like in previous entrys

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I really REALLY hope this isn't the final entry.

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censura_umbra
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I would not be surprised if we get another final video within a week or two.

A wrap up, not with a pretty bow, but a grim reflection of the past few years, Tim's regrets, and a hint or declaration of what he will do next. And a clear message:

"This is the last video that will be uploaded. Goodbye."

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FalloutGhoul
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Goddamn it!
Over a dozen pages of discussion missed again! Evil or Very Mad

Craig Digsby wrote:
Not being able to watch this entry for four hours nearly killed me. But I've arrived.

Alex got what was coming to him. Maybe he thought he was doing the right thing, but what he did to his friends was unforgivable. That bastard killed nearly all of them and could only think about himself. And in the end, he lost more blood than all of them.

Despite this, only one thing justified his actions - it wasn't his fault. It wasn't even Tim's. It was The Operator. That evil son of a bitch stole everything from him, corrupted him, and changed him entirely. He was controlled until the end, and by then he was nothing more than a shell of who he was. He died unloved, which is the worst way to die. He was a truly tragic character. I loved to hate him, but somehow I couldn't help but feel a tinge of regret when I saw him, bloody and dying, giving one last, desperate plea to save every last victim of The Operator.

Everyone who comes in contact with The Operator will end up dead. This is solid evidence of that. Even if Tim is still alive, he will die like the others. He can't possibly live a normal life after suffering through this entire ordeal. He will either kill himself, or be killed by The Operator. That is the true nature of this enigma - an entity that destroys. It instills fear into our hearts. It changes us. It corrupts our very being until finally, it destroys us. They weren't its only victims. I don't know if even Tim himself realized it when he said it, but I think he meant us. Anyone with knowledge of this entity will be victimized.

"Thousands" will be victimized.

Somehow every recent entry that came out managed to either surpass or equal the one before it. This was no exception. Not only did it surpass #85, it was almost better than #80 to #85 combined. And it's not the last. I can feel it. Something even better is coming.

I couldn't have put it better myself.
And also, the whole "thousands will be victimized" thing might mean one thing:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Us. The fans. The audience.


NobodyIP wrote:
Fantastic. I mean, I expected the next entry to be surprising, but not THAT surprising. Props to Trosephim for pulling all this off, must have taken some hella filmmaking skills.

Still want to know what the Ark actually IS though.

Here's my theory - Alex's dying words were (to me) "You have to kill it... then yourself." By 'it' I'm assuming he's talking about the Operator. So Tim somehow confronts the Operator, who transports him to the Ark, and I guess stuff happens there. And then it ends? I don't know, all I really want is more information about the Ark, that's pretty much the one question I want answered (even if there's just half an answer).

Nathanial wrote:
Throwing this out there.

"You missed someone". TTA. Even if Tim is still alive, I think TTA is still out there and is NOT (just) Brian. We'll see.

Loved the entry. Need a god damned smoke after seeing that and I've gone a year without a cigarette. Freaking intense man dear god. Skully man. Skully. And I've never even believed that theory until now... But I think there's another party we're going to be surprised with.

Something like that would be "a twist" enough without really being a "lame" twist. It's a nice middle ground imo.

I think this is what will happen.
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Tim confronts The Operator, and demands that he brings everyone except Alex back alive in exchange for his own life.

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Sylocat
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I don't want everything wrapped up in a bow, but if they don't at least tell us what the Ark is, I'm going to be royally pissed.

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SignerJ
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Wow, so many things going through my head right now. I'll try to jot some of them down.

- Am I the only one who thinks that Tim was lying in the hospital, when he says that he can show Alex "how to block it out"? I think that Tim was just saying whatever he thought would save his own skin. I don't blame him for doing so, of course, but still.

- Alex's statement that Brian "died here slowly" answers the big question of "how did Hoody die from such a (relatively) short fall?" It seems that Brian actually didn't die from that fall; instead, Tim abandoned Brian, leaving him to die, and his death was slow and painful.

- This entry was full of smack-talk. And I think that's what Tim's statement, "You missed someone" was. Just smack-talk, rubbing it into Alex's face that Alex failed to kill him.

- I think Tim's dead. He was doing a lot of physically-demanding activity, which would bump up his heart rate. With at least one bullet hole in his leg, I wouldn't be surprised if he bled out. In fact, I think that's what happened.

- It's poetic how it was Jay's knife that killed Alex in the end, and Jay's camera which video taped the Tim and Alex's entire confrontation (and their last moments).

- I think that this entry was uploaded by someone from TTA, the last person from TTA. It makes sense now that TTA is more than just one person, more than just Hoody/Masky. And that person would have wanted to be present at the final showdown, meaning that xe would have found the camera.

The tweet offers some evidence. If Tim had posted the tweet, he would have put the entry number beside it, like he always does. But this time, the tweet is just a link. Nothing more.

Additionally, the lack of text also offers evidence. Some people have said that the lack of text is indicative that Tim is just tired from the confrontation. However, if Tim really was too tired to put text in the video, then why did he shorten the beginning of the video, for when he was getting into Benedict Hall?

Besides, if Tim is dead, Alex is dead, Jay is dead, and Brian is dead, who else is left to upload the video, but a member of TTA? I'm guessing that the member of TTA is someone from Season 1, someone whom Alex failed to kill because he was still learning how to properly kill people.


Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Sarah is TTA.



EDIT:
- I like the idea that we've all been infected, too. I think it creates a nice atmosphere, and leaves things fairly open. However, for the "thousands" comment, I think that Tim was, once again, just trying to save his own skin, trying to see if he could dissuade Alex from killing him. (It also conveniently explains the rest of the 'verse.)

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censura_umbra
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So everyone is saying they heard Alex say "You have to kill it, then yourself." But I heard "You have to kill them, then yourself" meaning if you kill everyone that knows about TO including yourself, then TO goes away.

Tim states that thousands could be infected. Meaning us.
Obviously, Tim isn't so genre blind that he can't see it. He saw it when he first watched the series on Youtube when Jay first confronted him. He saw Jay sifting through videos of TO from Alex, and then TO began following Jay. You'd have to be an idiot not to assume the same thing would happen to all of the other viewers. But by the time Tim, (and Alex) found out about the Youtube channel, it was too late, and they just had to hope that it wouldn't spread through the internet, since we have no physical or emotional ties to the people or locations TO appears to.

As for whether Tim is dead, no, I don't think so. I think they clearly wanted it to seem that way, but unless Jay rises from the dead, picks up the camera, and finishes off this series. I don't want someone else introduced right now. It started with Tim, it needs to End with Tim. And since all he has is a bullet wound and a coughing fit, he is no where near confirmed dead. And there is no reason to assume he has done anything more than pass out.

But Jay could still be alive too. Since the TO world, suspends time (Bruce's undecayed body) Jay could have just been passed out when we saw him. Once Alex was killed, TO could have fixed Jay or dropped him off near a hospital, so Jay could be his pawn.

Or maybe Tim is TO's pawn now. Allowed to act on his own enough to upload this, but too empty to add a voice to it (end text) OR maybe TO has been controlling everyone from the beginning!
He "inspired" Jay to upload the videos, he is what kept them uploading, even though it was clear they were putting us at risk (well maybe not to Jay, he was a bit dense). TO influenced people to share him around, either by introducing him to them or (his favorite and the easiest way) through digital media! Which is why, so often, when there is distortion, it is an image of him. He is forcing himself to be viewed by the audience as much as possible.


Well this went on a tangent, anyway. Most likely. Tim is alive but no longer himself. Uploaded this, but couldn't bring himself to write anything. And we will see a depraved Tim in the next and last video.

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Couple of thoughts

First of all, maybe this explains why we've gotten sound and even images of past entries. Alex was zipping around all the f* over the place. Just a thought.

Secondly, from Awakeasaurusrex
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- Jessica's death seems the least clear-cut out of all of them, as has regularly been pointed out on here - and I can see Jay insisting that they keep Jessica's survival secret, if Jay and Tim managed to find her when they were still working together.


Dude. DUDE. DUDEDUDEDUDE

So we saw Jessica disappear, lying on that road. We argued whether we thought she was dead, if anyone could see her breathing. We argued that why else would she disappear, other than The Operator taking her. Not to mention why would ToheArk say she's still out there?

Dude. IT WAS A F***ING JUMP CUT. A real one, in the series. NOT THE OPERATOR. They did one measly jump cut and we, AND ALEX, assumed it was The Operator.
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Guys, if there is one more entry The last one should be posted this friday. This Friday is the anniversary of when the series began, June 20th, 2009, with Introduction

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One of the things I've noticed is that characters seem to be able to teleport to where other characters have died. In Entry #23 Jay teleports to the basement of doom (presumably where Seth died), and in this entry we've seen Alex and Tim teleport to the tunnel, Jay's death room and the balcony where Brian fell to his death. We saw nothing of where Amy was killed (her apartment, or just outside it), so perhaps she's still alive somewhere.

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Craig Digsby wrote:
Not being able to watch this entry for four hours nearly killed me. But I've arrived.

Alex got what was coming to him. Maybe he thought he was doing the right thing, but what he did to his friends was unforgivable. That bastard killed nearly all of them and could only think about himself. And in the end, he lost more blood than all of them.

Despite this, only one thing justified his actions - it wasn't his fault. It wasn't even Tim's. It was The Operator. That evil son of a bitch stole everything from him, corrupted him, and changed him entirely. He was controlled until the end, and by then he was nothing more than a shell of who he was. He died unloved, which is the worst way to die. He was a truly tragic character. I loved to hate him, but somehow I couldn't help but feel a tinge of regret when I saw him, bloody and dying, giving one last, desperate plea to save every last victim of The Operator.

Everyone who comes in contact with The Operator will end up dead. This is solid evidence of that. Even if Tim is still alive, he will die like the others. He can't possibly live a normal life after suffering through this entire ordeal. He will either kill himself, or be killed by The Operator. That is the true nature of this enigma - an entity that destroys. It instills fear into our hearts. It changes us. It corrupts our very being until finally, it destroys us. They weren't its only victims. I don't know if even Tim himself realized it when he said it, but I think he meant us. Anyone with knowledge of this entity will be victimized.

"Thousands" will be victimized.



I just love all of this so much.
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so yeah

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Sidenote wrote:


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