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[VIDEO] Entry #86
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DHawk314
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Marble Hornets wrote:
Your facts are also wrong. Jay gets mad at Tim immediately finding out he hid the tape, because he now knows Tim was lying and is probably lying about other things. He was never understanding of it. You would have the same reaction if you were in his shoes. Once he sees what's on the tape, he blames Tim for Jessica's disappearance and goes to tie him up to get information from him. The operator didn't even make an appearance in between those points. Tim gets the better of him and ties him up and he starts raging. You would rage too if you were tied up by the guy you thought was responsible for Jessica getting taken and then tying you up helpless to do anything.


Yo, I see your point but, I think you're just forgetting the timeline behind Entry #82. That's an Operator encounter between 76 and 77, which clearly changes Jay's attitude in that video to what his attitude is in 77.

Also, on another topic, it's true this video had no text at the end or beginning, but neither did 83, which is very similar to this video to me. I personally think Tim posted this.
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Mr Timothy
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 		[quote="DHawk314"]
Marble Hornets wrote:


Also, on another topic, it's true this video had no text at the end or beginning, but neither did 83, which is very similar to this video to me. I personally think Tim posted this.


Yes, but in Entry #83 it shows Tim picking up the camera.

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CityMusic
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 		Who do you think uploaded Entry 86?
Who do you think uploaded Entry 86?

I honestly think it might be Jay, who is still alive and not dead....

ModEdit (Zarggg): This post and its replies were originally a separate thread.

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awakeasaurusrex
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Marble Hornets wrote:
It's very unlikely someone ever hacked the account. Brian didn't just gain master hacking abilities because he turned masky at some point. He most likely just stole Jay's user/pass after breaking into his house. Not hard to do since browsers have a "saved passwords" feature.

Jay regularly mentioned changing up his passwords whenever a hacking incident happened. It never helped. The mystery of how TTA was able to repeatedly hack Jay's stuff is a major unanswered question of the series which the story has gone out of its way to draw attention to.

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hachiman
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 		The sethmeister. Razz But honestly, no clue. Confused

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Geneaux486
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Marble Hornets wrote:
You cannot prove that this "altering of peoples minds" is anything more than due to the sickness making someone irritable due to inflicting physical/internal damage on their body.


It's already fact. We've seen it happen to Tim, Brian, Alex, and Jay. It ranges from subtle shifts in personality to major overhauls, not just from character-to-character but even from encounter-to-encounter within the same character. This thing affects minds. It removes memories and it makes them aggressive. Like I said, you're demonstrably incorrect about this one.

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Lithp
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 		But he does have a point in that it's hard to claim that Alex isn't at fault unless he has no free will in the matter, which does not seem to be the case.

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Beidah
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 		You know, we argue about everyone's death, and, so far, everyone who looks to have died has actually died.... I think Tim might be dead.
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TheManPF
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Geneaux486 wrote:
Tim has made it clear multiple times that he, himself, considers Alex to be a victim the same as anyone. You're demonstrably incorrect on this particular subject.


"He gave you the tapes to make him look like the victim rather than the cause." Entry #72, 14 entries ago
"We need to be focusing on finding Alex because he is the one who is actually responsible for all of this." Entry #77, 9 entries ago
"At least three people would still be here if it wasn't for Alex" Entry #84, 2 entries ago
"If Alex didn't have a gun I would have gone after him when his back was turned. I wish I did." "Alex has destroyed everything I have. I don't care what happens to me as long as he is stopped." Entry #85, one entry ago

I don't see your point

You can think that Alex is a victim like everyone else, but Tim clearly does not think the same way

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Beidah
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 		Tim sees Alex as a victim, but feels that that doesn't excuse him for his actions. No one else went on a murdering spree.
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TheManPF
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 		Tim has made clear that he sees Alex as the threat, not the victim, he never said Alex was a victim like everyone else nor demonstrated he feels that way about him

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Beidah
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 		He offered to help Alex in this one. That says something. Everything is so black and white.
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TheManPF
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 		I'm leaning more to the theory that Tim uploaded it in some kind of Masky state, I think it's the most reasonable explanation

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Shockwave
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 		Masky or Skully

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Felloffalot
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 		I can't say I think Tim was entirely sincere when he was offering to help Alex, considering he was holding the knife up and searching for him while he was saying that.

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