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Lithp
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Yeah, about that, are we saying that The Operator creates some kind of window into the past, or intentionally projects certain images, or what?

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lonsumtravlr
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Lithp wrote:
Yeah, about that, are we saying that The Operator creates some kind of window into the past, or intentionally projects certain images, or what?


I'm saying that while we can't be sure, and I'm not sure Troy et al. know for sure, it seems that the coincidence of TO and video equipment in the same area somehow allow emotions, memories, and desires to be projected and recorded. I think that when Tim was having his moment of defiance in Entry #72, he was somehow thinking back to that seizure in Entry #61, which was an instance of weakness for him. I also think that much of what we saw in Entry #83 was the chest cam picking up a mix of Tim's memories and emotional responses, Brian/Hoody's memories and emotional responses, and likely Alex's memories, emotional responses, and desires, as well as his perspective on some of it (he was watching Tim and Brian/Hoody fight in Benedict Hall, which explains the sudden audience perspective). Of course, I also think that Alex was controlling that teleporting. I don't think TO has a very rich emotional or cognitive life (at least not as we understand them). But I also don't think there's any time travel--the most that's happened has been the sped-up time in Entries #23 and #72, when night fell quickly.

EDIT: I'm saying its more akin to an EVP, only it involves video instead of audio recording, and it's emotional states and the memories that are attached to or triggered by them instead of the voices of the dead that are being recorded.

EDITEDIT: And I'm saying that whatever TO does to its victims' brains and emotions, etc.--whatever it is that TO does at all--is what sets this going.

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TheManPF
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I don't think he really projects emotions, everything we've seen so far was footage that was previously recorded, so even if Tim was thinking about the seizure in #72 (kind of a stretch I think), it'd be very strange if TO projected something that was recorded previously, that wasn't exactly Tim's point of view

The only exception to this is the fire in the hospital in #83, though I'm not exactly sure if this is something TO caused

It's a very strange occurrence that I think it will never be explained or it'll be to hard to understand, since we're talking about different footage recorded on different cameras appearing in entries that have nothing to do with them, this and the fact that we can even see the camera that is recording the footage itself without using a mirror (#83 again, but also maybe #65)

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pestoner
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a thought just popped into my mind rewatching #49.
Alex being like "i told you not to follow me!" is a bit strange,assuming he never met this guy before to tell him anything.
so what if in his state at the time he thought it was one of the MH Crew and killed him?
and that one member he thought it was,was innocent not-at-all-involved bruce,so the one he mistook for Brian/seth/whoever is still alive..?

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samiam
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Hey folks. Someone mentioned that one of the guys wanted to get a Mohawk when this was over. It looks like Joseph has a new haircut on his twitter page.

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Geneaux486
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pestoner wrote:
a thought just popped into my mind rewatching #49.
Alex being like "i told you not to follow me!" is a bit strange,assuming he never met this guy before to tell him anything.
so what if in his state at the time he thought it was one of the MH Crew and killed him?
and that one member he thought it was,was innocent not-at-all-involved bruce,so the one he mistook for Brian/seth/whoever is still alive..?


He thought it was Jay. He mentioned earlier in that entry, under his breath, that he knew Jay was there (which, as we know, he was). I think he realized he was killing a complete stranger pretty quickly, and either felt he had to ride it out or was being compelled to by the Operator's influence. Probably the latter.

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samiam wrote:
Hey folks. Someone mentioned that one of the guys wanted to get a Mohawk when this was over. It looks like Joseph has a new haircut on his twitter page.


That picture has been on his page for a while now. It was taken at a con a while back so it's not recent.

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Suttonchops wrote:
samiam wrote:
Hey folks. Someone mentioned that one of the guys wanted to get a Mohawk when this was over. It looks like Joseph has a new haircut on his twitter page.


That picture has been on his page for a while now. It was taken at a con a while back so it's not recent.


And that's what I get for not being more active. Thanks for the correction. Now I can go back to anxiously waiting rather than sitting here fearing that the end has already come.

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pestoner
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Geneaux486 wrote:
pestoner wrote:
a thought just popped into my mind rewatching #49.
Alex being like "i told you not to follow me!" is a bit strange,assuming he never met this guy before to tell him anything.
so what if in his state at the time he thought it was one of the MH Crew and killed him?
and that one member he thought it was,was innocent not-at-all-involved bruce,so the one he mistook for Brian/seth/whoever is still alive..?


He thought it was Jay. He mentioned earlier in that entry, under his breath, that he knew Jay was there (which, as we know, he was). I think he realized he was killing a complete stranger pretty quickly, and either felt he had to ride it out or was being compelled to by the Operator's influence. Probably the latter.


You mean when he mutters "dont follow me"?i dont think that confirms that much,maybe he just noticed someone following him,could have been anyone,since Alex wasnst eager for anyone following him to the tunnel watching him doing his Thing.
also,this entry cant be the end,theres too much left to answer..like the water stuff,the fire stuff,the ONE EYE stuff,the rest of #38,"the twins" and even more..also theyd would have mentioned the end OOG somewhere by now.
actually i hope that tim is out of meds and goes masky and Posts a TTA with footage he has withhold all These years,that would be awesome.

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awakeasaurusrex
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Suttonchops wrote:
samiam wrote:
Hey folks. Someone mentioned that one of the guys wanted to get a Mohawk when this was over. It looks like Joseph has a new haircut on his twitter page.


That picture has been on his page for a while now. It was taken at a con a while back so it's not recent.

But then his latest tweet reads "when using an adjustable electric trimmer, be sure not to press hard enough to cause it to slip by two notches lmao", which suggests he is cutting his hair.

Though if he noticed people were using the state of his hair to judge when MH ends I wouldn't put it past him to put out a tweet like that to jerk our chains. (And hey, he might have been doing his legs or something.)

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knightmare
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Considering Alex is dead, they're not really going to need Joseph to act in any subsequent entries, so he can mohawk it up all he wants now.

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Geneaux486
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pestoner wrote:
You mean when he mutters "dont follow me"?i dont think that confirms that much,maybe he just noticed someone following him,could have been anyone,since Alex wasnst eager for anyone following him to the tunnel watching him doing his Thing.


I'd agree with you if he hadn't straight up told Jay in Entry #52 "I know you've been following me."

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awakeasaurusrex wrote:
Suttonchops wrote:
samiam wrote:
Hey folks. Someone mentioned that one of the guys wanted to get a Mohawk when this was over. It looks like Joseph has a new haircut on his twitter page.


That picture has been on his page for a while now. It was taken at a con a while back so it's not recent.

But then his latest tweet reads "when using an adjustable electric trimmer, be sure not to press hard enough to cause it to slip by two notches lmao", which suggests he is cutting his hair.

Though if he noticed people were using the state of his hair to judge when MH ends I wouldn't put it past him to put out a tweet like that to jerk our chains. (And hey, he might have been doing his legs or something.)


I use an adjustable electric trimmer all the time, only gave myself mowhawk once. Barbers are just bullshit*.


*Apologies to any barbers here, I didn't mean that

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Vesryn
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I'm not sure if Tim will confront the operator or not, and I'd be fine if he didn't since the only things we've seen that get TO to back off have been the pills and sometimes running away. So if Tim can just all of a sudden defeat/make him back off permanently... I guess it would depend on how it was done.

The speculations that Tim has run out of pills and will revert to Masky I find really intriguing since we might get answers as to what he and Hoody were up to, what they know (since they always seemed to know more than Jay), what the Ark is, how Hoody evaded TO all this time, why they kidnapped Jessica (well, we may never know that one), etc. I think this possibility could lead to the most answers.

Other possibility, Tim gets more pills and holds back TO the way he has most of his life, only with the knowledge that it's not just hallucinations, and probably also afraid to get close to someone or in front of a camera ever again. This seems most likely to me.

Other possibilities, TO makes Tim run around and kill people like Alex did.

Tim commits suicide.

Tim is killed, either directly by TO (which we haven't seen happen before) or a proxy (who would that be though?).

Tim is already dead and the camera was picked up by either a random dude, or Alex failed to off someone properly. Can also apply if Tim dies in the next entry or two.

TO wipes Tim's memories. Unlikely since the camera makes it kinda pointless.

Tim is emitted into a psychiatric ward.

Um... Oh one more: Tim knows Alex failed to off someone else properly. They team up and do... something. See previous possibilities.

Those are the ones I can think of. I think some of them are more likely than others

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One thing that hasn't really been pointed out and isn't really too important, but if Brian is an empty shell - doesn't that match up with Hoody, who we pretty much saw by his clothes, as if he were invisible? As if there was nothing inside? Just an interesting bit of symbolism, maybe, but perhaps its a little more significant.
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