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Geneaux486
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Gonna post my theory here, too, so as to strike a couple of questions from my "unanswered questions" list.

Nobody is supposed to remember the Operator. Tim didn't "infect" anyone in the traditional sense. Looking back, especially at season one, any encounters Jay was privy to he had no memory of. Same with Tim (who's been dealing with it the longest but had no idea what it was) and everyone else. So what started this mess? Well, Alex caught the anomaly on film when Tim auditioned, and then later that night, and in doing so became aware of its existence. That's the variable. Everyone who remembers their encounters with the Operator already knew the thing existed. That's why, even though Jessica clearly saw it behind Tim in entry 87, she likely won't remember it, and will be able to continue getting treatment for her symptoms unaware of the horrible truth regarding their cause. The physical and mental effects the Operator has on people who don't know about it are treatable and basically akin to mental illness, the real danger is the burden of knowledge.

Also, on the subject of Alex thinking people were "gone" in season one, I think the Operator can't take people who are still alive. Tunnel guy died, so his corpse vanished for good, stayed in the Operator's realm. Same with Jay. Tim was still alive, so he didn't stay. Jessica was still alive, so she was spat back out. Brian, Jay, and Tim during the summer of 06, same thing. Alex thought they were dead, the Operator tried to take them, but they survived, so it had to spit 'em back out. But at the time of Alex recording his "confession" in season one, he thought they actually were all dead.

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Chest Cam Avenger
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I'm just excited to finally learn about what's up with Alex's bracelet.

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wassupbro
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Its ok to leave questions unanswered, but not after giving hints that make the audience believe that it will be eventually revealed. For example: A direct answer to what the ark is, the deal with rosswood, and what not.


Another thing that really bothers me is how they just left Entry 71 alone. WTF happened to Jay?

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Geneaux486 wrote:
Gonna post my theory here, too, so as to strike a couple of questions from my "unanswered questions" list.

Nobody is supposed to remember the Operator. Tim didn't "infect" anyone in the traditional sense. Looking back, especially at season one, any encounters Jay was privy to he had no memory of. Same with Tim (who's been dealing with it the longest but had no idea what it was) and everyone else. So what started this mess? Well, Alex caught the anomaly on film when Tim auditioned, and then later that night, and in doing so became aware of its existence. That's the variable. Everyone who remembers their encounters with the Operator already knew the thing existed. That's why, even though Jessica clearly saw it behind Tim in entry 87, she likely won't remember it, and will be able to continue getting treatment for her symptoms unaware of the horrible truth regarding their cause. The physical and mental effects the Operator has on people who don't know about it are treatable and basically akin to mental illness, the real danger is the burden of knowledge.

Also, on the subject of Alex thinking people were "gone" in season one, I think the Operator can't take people who are still alive. Tunnel guy died, so his corpse vanished for good, stayed in the Operator's realm. Same with Jay. Tim was still alive, so he didn't stay. Jessica was still alive, so she was spat back out. Brian, Jay, and Tim during the summer of 06, same thing. Alex thought they were dead, the Operator tried to take them, but they survived, so it had to spit 'em back out. But at the time of Alex recording his "confession" in season one, he thought they actually were all dead.


That's a great point you make. TO is at best a very vague threat always looming because of the cameras and the footage. Aside from the fact that Jay and Tim couldn't or wouldn't post every single second of footage, and so some TO conversation is likely cut out, it makes sense that the TO references would be few and pretty indirect (e.g., "That person who follows [Alex] around" or "That Thing").

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Blackout_2014
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It's already been said, but I would like more insight into Hoody/Brian's motivation, especially at the end when he set Jay up to die.

Alex and Tim both had solid explanations for their actions and Jay had a purpose, but Hoody was all over the place.

I know the simple answer is that he was crazy, but I would have liked for it to be a bit more than that.

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Geneaux486 wrote:
GNobody is supposed to remember the Operator. Tim didn't "infect" anyone in the traditional sense. Looking back, especially at season one, any encounters Jay was privy to he had no memory of. Same with Tim (who's been dealing with it the longest but had no idea what it was) and everyone else. So what started this mess? Well, Alex caught the anomaly on film when Tim auditioned, and then later that night, and in doing so became aware of its existence. That's the variable. Everyone who remembers their encounters with the Operator already knew the thing existed. That's why, even though Jessica clearly saw it behind Tim in entry 87, she likely won't remember it, and will be able to continue getting treatment for her symptoms unaware of the horrible truth regarding their cause. The physical and mental effects the Operator has on people who don't know about it are treatable and basically akin to mental illness, the real danger is the burden of knowledge.

Also, on the subject of Alex thinking people were "gone" in season one, I think the Operator can't take people who are still alive. Tunnel guy died, so his corpse vanished for good, stayed in the Operator's realm. Same with Jay. Tim was still alive, so he didn't stay. Jessica was still alive, so she was spat back out. Brian, Jay, and Tim during the summer of 06, same thing. Alex thought they were dead, the Operator tried to take them, but they survived, so it had to spit 'em back out. But at the time of Alex recording his "confession" in season one, he thought they actually were all dead.

I'm totally with you on the first part, but I'm not sure about the second part yet. I'll need to think on it more; there are some good points in it.

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RiddleMeThis
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Zarggg wrote:
Geneaux486 wrote:
GNobody is supposed to remember the Operator. Tim didn't "infect" anyone in the traditional sense. Looking back, especially at season one, any encounters Jay was privy to he had no memory of. Same with Tim (who's been dealing with it the longest but had no idea what it was) and everyone else. So what started this mess? Well, Alex caught the anomaly on film when Tim auditioned, and then later that night, and in doing so became aware of its existence. That's the variable. Everyone who remembers their encounters with the Operator already knew the thing existed. That's why, even though Jessica clearly saw it behind Tim in entry 87, she likely won't remember it, and will be able to continue getting treatment for her symptoms unaware of the horrible truth regarding their cause. The physical and mental effects the Operator has on people who don't know about it are treatable and basically akin to mental illness, the real danger is the burden of knowledge.

Also, on the subject of Alex thinking people were "gone" in season one, I think the Operator can't take people who are still alive. Tunnel guy died, so his corpse vanished for good, stayed in the Operator's realm. Same with Jay. Tim was still alive, so he didn't stay. Jessica was still alive, so she was spat back out. Brian, Jay, and Tim during the summer of 06, same thing. Alex thought they were dead, the Operator tried to take them, but they survived, so it had to spit 'em back out. But at the time of Alex recording his "confession" in season one, he thought they actually were all dead.

I'm totally with you on the first part, but I'm not sure about the second part yet. I'll need to think on it more; there are some good points in it.


Then what about Seth?

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Geneaux486
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RiddleMeThis wrote:
Then what about Seth?


If Alex didn't kill him, then he would presumably still be running around out there, aware of the Operator or not, depending on whether or not he saw any footage containing the thing.

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Inglorion
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I'm wondering what the deal is with that brief shot from Entry #83: it seems to show an unconscious person sitting next to the bottom of a step ladder while someone descends from the attic above. Granted this was during (well, right after) the trippy Hoody chase so it could've been nonsense/hallucinations, but most of the other stuff we saw during that sequence had some significance, like the hospital burning. It's just a really curious shot, the person sitting next to the ladder is Tim I think but who's the person descending with a flashlight?

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Inglorion wrote:
I'm wondering what the deal is with that brief shot from Entry #83: it seems to show an unconscious person sitting next to the bottom of a step ladder while someone descends from the attic above. Granted this was during (well, right after) the trippy Hoody chase so it could've been nonsense/hallucinations, but most of the other stuff we saw during that sequence had some significance, like the hospital burning. It's just a really curious shot, the person sitting next to the ladder is Tim I think but who's the person descending with a flashlight?


I'm thinking it was Alex/Brian!Hoody/Skully. The other interesting part of this would be when this is happen? Does it between Entry 33 and Entry 52?

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Shockwave
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We are forgetting the most important question of all:

BUT WHO WAS PHONE

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searchanddestroy
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How did Jessica survive. And when she did survive how did she not go insane.

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awakeasaurusrex
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Geneaux486 wrote:
Nobody is supposed to remember the Operator. Tim didn't "infect" anyone in the traditional sense. Looking back, especially at season one, any encounters Jay was privy to he had no memory of. Same with Tim (who's been dealing with it the longest but had no idea what it was) and everyone else. So what started this mess? Well, Alex caught the anomaly on film when Tim auditioned, and then later that night, and in doing so became aware of its existence. That's the variable. Everyone who remembers their encounters with the Operator already knew the thing existed. That's why, even though Jessica clearly saw it behind Tim in entry 87, she likely won't remember it, and will be able to continue getting treatment for her symptoms unaware of the horrible truth regarding their cause. The physical and mental effects the Operator has on people who don't know about it are treatable and basically akin to mental illness, the real danger is the burden of knowledge.

This is the best explanation I've seen to date.

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Did they ever explain what "The Ark" is?

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Sidenote wrote:
What happened during the YEAR where all that Jay did was show the videos of what happened during the 7 months missing from his memory. like, what has happened in the present while Jay uploaded Entry #34 - Entry #52. Like he didn't run into our tall friend and he was never in any real danger apart from headaches and some paranoia, so if he just watched the tapes and chose to not talk to Tim, and just move on wouldn't it all stop?

This seems to be the case. Tim was living a normal life before the student film, even with the Operator apparently following him. He even had himself a friend, Brian, who was doing just fine before Alex messed him up. After chasing Jay out of the hotel, Tim started living a normal life until Entry 59, with Jay pointing his camera every where and bringing up old problems.

Jay seemed to be fine before he got obsessed with his investigation. If he had just walked away from it like he said he was planning to in Entry 26 (and he outright said he was feeling better during that time), he might have been able to live like Tim was.

Long story short: if the Operator is in fact real, ignore it and it will go away. Become obsessed with it, and it will grow in power.

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