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[adaminator1]

[Lithp]

I heard...something, but it still sounds like just air flow to me. Maybe I should try later, with headphones.

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[PieAvenger]

[FossilizedSauce]

It's always been strange that no matter how often we see a person get whisked away by the Operator they almost ALWAYS seem to return and not remember it at all.

Jay was attacked and taken away by Oppy when he FIRST GOT THE TAPES from Alex.
He came back and didn't recall that happening, period.

Jessica gets stalked and attacked by Alex, transported away at the end of 76(?).
Totally fine and living a seemingly regular life. Sorta.

Brian gets ambushed at the abandoned hospital (TIM IS ALSO THERE, lying all dirty and coughing in the corner...) and knocked out, dragged away by Alex.
He is alive and well as Hoody until recent events changed that.

Tim, jesus, Tim has been all over Slendy's dimension and he has that alter ego with the mask. It even looked like he'd died last entry.
But now everything is FINE.

Don't even know how to go about Alex's situation. We saw the early days in S1 where he's waking up with blood in his hair and becoming angry.

There's a pattern that I think the guys have subtly laid into all this, and I think we are definitely supposed to be picking up on some kind of process that goes on that is common to all the characters.

Starting to think Oppy makes artificial clones of you or something weird like that . Remember 84 where Jay's encounter with Slendy made him go from, as Tim said, apologetic to angry and irritable? Same happened to Alex.

[Lithp]

[Xman]

I'm wondering when we're gonna get a confirmation whether that was the end or not. I feel like Troy should've tweeted something by now. Or maybe he's just waiting a few days.

Granted, they are at a convention right now, so I guess they're distracted with that.

[Gale]

[The Spirit of Christmas]

An ending without any resolution or answers would certainly be disappointing, but we were given a lot of resolution. Sure, the second half of #87 was vague, but there's really only a couple of possible outcomes.

I think the thing is, everybody wants answers in regards to the supernatural elements, but really, the characters themselves have been the focus since Season 2 now. The Operator is the root of all the issues, sure, but the show hasn't really been ABOUT the Operator for a long time - it's been about the people dealing with it, and their interactions with one another.

Answers we've been given recently:
#76
- It was Hoody and Masky that took Jessica from the apartment, and this apparently led to Alex killing her. Tim was directly involved in this, revealing his apparent reason for keeping it from Jay.
- Cements that Hoody and Masky were indeed working together for a time.
- Beginnings of the idea that Alex is regretful about killing everyone, but sees it as necessary. 'I'm sorry', 'It has to be done'.

#77
- We learn that Tim hid Jessica's fate from Jay because he knew it would hinder their progress. This partly explains Hoody's 'liar' accusations.

#78
- Hoody doesn't wish to harm Jay - he wants him to find Alex (with hindsight, it makes a lot of sense that Brian wanted Alex dead after what he did).

#81
- Despite Tim's apparent shadiness, he didn't want Jay to die, and went to the college to find Alex, not to help him or Hoody.

#82
- We learn that Jay's aggression towards Tim was a result of the Operator's influence.
- Confirmation that Rosswood, and perhaps other areas favoured by the Operator, are geographically screwy.

Null
- Tim still has a secret which he hasn't revealed, and TTA knows what it is.
- Flash of the Hoody mask, revealing that TTA is most likely Hoody. The lack of TTA videos following Hoody's death confirms this.
- 'REGARDS, IA(X)NR.' The Operator symbol resembles a B, in which case this is an anagram for Brian.

#83
- Jay is definitely dead.

#84
- Alex's first encounter with the Operator was in the hours following his first meeting with Tim, supporting Tim's suspicion that he, himself, was the source.
- Brian was Hoody.
- Tim blames Alex for everything.

#85
- Alex blames Tim for everything.
- It was Alex that burnt down Jay's apartment in Season 1.

#86
- Alex believed he did the right thing by murdering everybody - he wanted to stop the Operator from spreading and gaining new victims.
- Brian is definitely dead.
- Alex believed he'd successfully killed everyone - 'Sarah, Seth, Jessica, Amy, Jay'. His goal all along was to wipe out all the Operator's victims, thus hopefully the Operator itself.
- Tim suggests that the Operator is taking advantage of Alex in this way - 'using him to get what it wants'. This offers some insight into it's potential motivation - Alex's victims 'feed' it.
- Importantly, if Alex is to be believed, Amy had been dead the whole time, and he was lying to Jay about trying to find her throughout Season 2.
- Tim claims that Alex 'missed someone'.
- Tim was so above the Operator's influence that he managed to kill Alex, something that he and Hoody had always failed to do because of Operator intervention.

#87
- Tim is alive and was the uploader of #86.
- Jessica is alive. THIS is the big secret which he was keeping from Jay, as he didn't want her to become involved again, or remember any of what had happened.
- The fact that Jessica is okay proves that Tim edited the tape shown in #76 - he had planned on eventually showing him this tape, making him believe Jessica is dead.
- Hoody resented Tim for this manipulation, and tried to tell Jay the truth, albeit quite indirectly.


Point is, we've been given a hell of a lot in regards to Tim and Alex's pasts, and that's a big deal in regards to the full story.

Granted, I would have liked to know more about Brian. Why he was so cryptic in the way he addressed Jay? When and why did the big falling out between Tim and Brian occur?

[PortableMuskrat]

[420Goku]

Did Tim put together and upload this video as Masky? People were complaining earlier that the video felt hollow and empty, and I agree it sort of did, it didn't feel like a regular character giving us a video. It felt more like it was put together by a TTA-style crazy. "Everything is fine"? I mean that's straight up TTA. I had speculated earlier that Tim might become Masky and make a TTA video and this might actually be what this is. Tim throwing away his mask sort of contradicts this, but maybe Masky kept it in because he found it amusing (thinking, yeah whatever, I don't even need a mask anymore!)

I personally don't think he killed Jessica, just because I can't imagine Tim doing something like that. Even as Masky he was protecting her. I get the feeling that the whole Jessica part of this video is supposed to show how through all this crap there's kind of a bright light - Tim saved someone and gave them the chance to live a normal life. But I can totally see how they might've made it to let people think he did kill her. I just prefer to have that little bit of optimism and human care at the end (but hell, to give a glimpse of it but then imply Tim killed her is pretty fucking admirably evil of the crew).

The distortion episode just shows that Tim is going to have to carry the weight and will never fully get rid of the operator. It also serves as a heavy foreshadowing that he could be turning into Masky, if you ask me.

This could very well be the end, it could very well not be. This isn't something we can really argue over. The people complaining that this video didn't give any answers probably need to marathon this series all over again, or just get sharper brains.

I'm willing to bet there are answers in Null we still haven't found that could very well blow our minds. I wouldn't be surprised if years from now people are still finding new codes in those TTA videos that change how to look at this series.

Everything is fine... everything is fine. Well, if this is the end it's been a wild ride. I basically grew up with marble hornets, the series started when I was 14 (and I started watching it then) right before I entered high school, and now here we are, I'm 19, first summer after college, and it seems it might be finally over. Even after 5 years I can't totally explain what it was about the series that I liked so much, but it really is a pretty great thing, if only personally to me. I think just the idea of having to face a glitch demon, and us having to observe it all through the glitched out data, it's actually a very enticing and new idea for a new age. Or something. Scared the shit out of me when I was 14, made me feel emotional and weird at 19. It's got 420goku's approval.

Manly tears... everything is fine.

[Lithp]

[Inglorion]

So I think I've figured out what the ending was trying to convey despite the ambiguity.

>Alex tells Tim what needs to be done, kill everyone "infected" then himself
>Tim: Yeah, whatever you say Alex...psycho!
>Decides to do the right thing and just try to beat the Operator with medicine, strength, discipline, etc. Tries to help out Jessica who is also enmeshed in the problem by making sure she's undergoing treatment
>Some kind of incident occurs during their meeting, either the Operator or Masky harmed/killed Jessica in some way, explaining the sirens which happens immediately afterward
>Tim now realizes that he's either the "host" of the Operator again, or still affected by his Masky persona, despite the pills, and realizes Alex was right
>In a fit of despair and anger he grabs his pills but doesn't take them, as he realizes it's futile now
>Either intentionally films the crossroads as a metaphor or it was something the filmmakers wanted; either way, the message is the same: Tim can either kill kimself as the last person left alive involved with the immediate events of the Marble Hornets plot, or continue living a tortured paranoid life as the Operator's thrall, possibly leading to more people being infected.
>Whatever he chooses doesn't really matter for us the viewer. The "Everything is Fine" is just a nice final bit of irony, because everything is terrible. You can almost feel how ominous the ending is juxtaposed with a comforting phrase like "Everything is fine".

The only question is, if Tim indeed knows that the viewership of MH are also bound to become infected, why lull us into a false sense of security when it's obvious from this Entry alone, what with something happening between Jessica/Tim in the parking lot, that everything is just as bad as it always was? That's one thing I can't wrap my mind around.[/i]

[The Spirit of Christmas]