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[VIDEO] Entry #87
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awakeasaurusrex
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KTsteve wrote:
Wait, why are people saying this is the last entry? That didn't even remotely feel like an ending, more like a pre ending buildup.

"I'm going to be gone for awhile too", possibly saying that's there's a chance of him dying (since he said jay left, but really he died). He's going to go, and either kill himself next entry, or get killed trying to rid the world of the operator.

So who would upload the video if either of these things happen?

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awakeasaurusrex
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Neoclimax wrote:
And I doubt Tim would just put "Everything is fine" after what we just saw before that cut happened. He would've at least given us SOME explanation.

I actually think that's the most brilliant part of the entry.

We know that the filming and documentation process is a common symptom of the whole slenderisation process. It happened to Alex, it happened to Jay, it happened to Brian, it happened to Tim. Abruptly declining to keep filming, to try and explain this thing, to even think about this stuff, can in that light be interpreted as Tim making a big step in the process of shaking himself of this stuff. At the end of the day he has every right to quit being our camera monkey.

The callback to Decline, of course, opens up a range of other interpretations, some benign ("I worry about nothing because nothing's on my mind" - Tim has decided that it's time to just forget this stuff and stop thinking about it, like Jessica) and some less so ("Have you made me a liar, or is he gone?" - Tim might have put Alex's plan into action).

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GnomonRose
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 		"Fine"
"Everything is fine"
echoes
"All was well"

that occurred to me, but the two endings are so different. It's so evasive. Basically it seems to me like Tim's in denial, pretending that his time at being Masky is over when there's no clear reason to believe that, I mean TO has been there before Tim and is still around after everything else.

Tim's speech to Alex near the end of #86 was spoken while Tim was readying his little knife. Was it a stalling tactic only, a last attempt to turn things around, or only just to put Alex off his guard?

Did he believe that things COULD be turned around, or did he buy into Alex's guilt tripping and his idea that everyone who'd had this Slendy Sickness spread to them by Tim originally must be killed to contain the 'infection'?

If so, then I support that idea that Tim killed Jessica, filmed the ending, posted it, and then killed himself, finalizing the process and containing the problem.

From that point of view, then, along with the support of the sirens, the last line from Tim suggests that now that he's about to end the series and has killed all but himself, and WILL next kill himself, he's bought into Alex's suggested solution and that now that everyone's dead the infection has in fact been successfully contained. We don't know any more about other people outside the series characters who were affected by TO and there were no crossovers in this series as opposed to other series, so it's more self contained as a story anyway.

Oh and by the way, I think the enttry about Alex's early birthday party was just a sort of video collage by Brian to suggest that TO had been involved from early on in his life, for whatever reason, but probably that's totally a lie because I think the first time Alex was "infected" was at the MH audition.
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awakeasaurusrex
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SilentMedusa wrote:
Am I really the only one willing to believe the sirens don't mean anything? Is it really not possible that as Tim was driving and filming there was a police car off in the distance that had nothing to do with him IG or OOG?

I am reasonably sure that THAC would have noticed the sirens if we did, and they'd have either done another take or obscured them in editing if they didn't want them to be there.

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awakeasaurusrex
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Lithp wrote:
TIM IS STUCK IN A LOOP OF UNHAPPINESS.

No, quite the reverse. In the movie that line relates to a character deliberately revisiting the past and finding that even going through the old motions doesn't give him any joy. Making the decision to make a clean break from the past, as Tim is doing here if you go with the "Jessica is fine, Tim is moving away, nobody died" interpretation, is exactly what you do to break the loop.

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awakeasaurusrex
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The Spirit of Christmas wrote:
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Plus, the DVD/Blu Ray isn't hitting till August, if I remember correctly - this definitely leaves time for one more entry.

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Naw, dude, they're going to need time to do test pressings and the bonus features and the like - there's barely any time left unless the DVD/Blu-ray actually gets delayed.


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GnomonRose
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Welllll I think now in Alex's Season 1 Speech about all the people being "gone" was about them having been 'infected' or caught into the web of people who have been affected by TO. At least that's how we can read it in retrospect! Very Happy
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Postoyalec
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 		And so, it has come to pass that at the end of the series countless new kilroys, "long time lurkers, first time this-cliche-sayers", started to come out of the anonymous shadows and onto the forum. After The Spirit of Christmas, BlindDogLee, bbat70 and Kaaamil I seem to be the fifth one in the thread; unless I've miscounted.
So hello there.

I have started marbling hornets with you all during the gap between the first and the second seasons (and discovered Unfiction discussions of MH near the same time). If the first season was a definite horror movie (after binge watching it, I literally couldn't sleep without my lights on for some time), the second was a flashback-mystery-solving one; and while I couldn't care less for the former genre, I'm just a sucker for the latter, so second season is still my favourite, and it has turned me on to the series forever. Third season was, well... mixed, a little bit. Although IMO longer pauses and more chaotic schedule harmed it more than anything else; not creators' fault, of course, real life does tend to happen in-between entries.

And now it seems we are facing the grand finale. My feelings about the #87 are ambiguous at best; but I'm starting to like this entry, actually. Still, that's not the point of my message.

The point is, quite unoriginally, to say thank you. As with every good work of fiction, there's more than meets the eye (especially such an untrained one as mine). You were always there to dissect all the hidden meanings and messages, to introduce the new perspective on the things. Basically, every time after I had watched an entry and had my fair share of theoretizing about it, I went to read the forum, and there always were at least two or three facts or points I never would've noticed or thought about.

So, thank y'all, you lovely cookies! It's been a pleasure to watch your collaborative work, and I can only hope this is not the last series I'll be catching up via Unfiction.

P.S. Pardon my bad English, it's not the native language of mine.

P.P.S. This gem is too good not to quote again and again and again:
Geneaux486 wrote:
If she's still alive, you have to cough at her, then drive to the end of a forked road, and spin the camera.


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Jibbles
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 		i thought it was implied that Tim killed Jessica when he had a brain attack thingy but maybe im stupid??

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samiam
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 		Anyone think it odd or significant that this entry doesn't appear to have been posted to twitter yet?

Also, just wanna chime in with a big thanks to the guys for bringing us this series but also to all of you. I eagerly watched every entry but wouldn't have understood or enjoyed it as much without all of your analysis and debate.

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Kaaamil
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 		It doesn't seem normal to me that Tim's written only one sentence at the end. Aspecially after the disruptions and cough attack that usually happen when TO comes. Then we had an unexpected cut and what? - Everything is fine, that was nothing to worry about, TO is gone maybe... - Well, I don't think so. I could hardly belive that he believed in Alex's way of ending the whole thing by killing everyone and himself, but I can't say it's impossible, 'cause we heard sirens and saw the strange behavior of Tim, who didn't add any explaination of anything at the end. (Actually, I think adding only one sentence at the end it's a great idea. It doesn't satisfie me, but keeps up a mystery.)
Another thing that cought my eye is Tim taking out his pills at the end. For me it tells that everything isn't fine and the problem is still alive. (And if the thing with killing Jessica is true, maybe he wants to... well... overdose? Smile

Anyway, I believe that we'll se at least an entry more. I want to, like MH very much.

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lonsumtravlr
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Kaaamil wrote:

Another thing that cought my eye is Tim taking out his pills at the end. For me it tells that everything isn't fine and the problem is still alive. (And if the thing with killing Jessica is true, maybe he wants to... well... overdose? Smile


I don't think he can overdose with one bottle, though. First, we've seen him take about that much before (he apparently did so in Entry #65, and he did do so in Entry #86). Second, he's been on this medication for a long time, so his body's no doubt used to it and maybe has even built up a tolerance. My guess is the pills are no longer strong enough on their own.

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Kaaamil
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lonsumtravlr wrote:
Kaaamil wrote:

Another thing that cought my eye is Tim taking out his pills at the end. For me it tells that everything isn't fine and the problem is still alive. (And if the thing with killing Jessica is true, maybe he wants to... well... overdose? Smile


I don't think he can overdose with one bottle, though. First, we've seen him take about that much before (he apparently did so in Entry #65, and he did do so in Entry #86). Second, he's been on this medication for a long time, so his body's no doubt used to it and maybe has even built up a tolerance. My guess is the pills are no longer strong enough on their own.


So... no overdosage. One step ahead! Wink

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lonsumtravlr
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samiam wrote:
Anyone think it odd or significant that this entry doesn't appear to have been posted to twitter yet?

Also, just wanna chime in with a big thanks to the guys for bringing us this series but also to all of you. I eagerly watched every entry but wouldn't have understood or enjoyed it as much without all of your analysis and debate.


I noted that earlier. I think there were one or two gaps before, but it's been more than twelve hours, now. So it makes me wonder.

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 		Everything is fine.



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