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[knightmare]

The silver lining of the cloud that is an ambiguous ending: it gives us plenty of things to talk about, discuss, debate, and argue. What was TTA? Did Tim kill Jessica? Did Tim kill himself? What happens now? etc...

If they gave us all the answers, the game would be over. Now, we can keep it alive by discussing what we all think happened.

[sirago17]

In heaven, everything is fine.
http://youtu.be/Qt0GNoEvV2Q

[Ristar]

[LiamTapsOut]

Hello. Long time lurker, first time poster.

A theory that I've seen somewhat discussed and that I like (I don't really believe it, but it would be nice) is that we don't know when this video was made.

We have no confirmation of whether the events of this video happen before or after Tim killing Alex.

All we know from this video is:
Jessica IS alive, and Tim has been keeping her away from everything.
Tim throws the Masky Mask away
and
Tim is Using Jay's handheld camera.

This last one is important for figuring out, if this is set before Alex's death, then when is it set? I'd personally like to believe it's set before Jay's death, and this was a tape that Tim kept for Jay.

"Everything is Fine" is not a message to us, but to Jay. Tim tells Jessica that Jay moved away to keep her in the dark about what is going on with him. It could be set between Tim leaving Jay and Tim going to the school. Tim knows that Jay is tied up and won't be able to follow him. If something happens to Tim, then Jay is left knowing Jessica is alive.

The only issue with this theory is that for a lot of the time that Jay was alive, Tim was using the Chestycam (He was when he went to the college I believe). I can't, from the top of my head, think of a time where Tim leaves on his own with Jays camera. Perhaps it happens off screen, but that doesn't feel like MH's style.

I know this theory is flawed, but it's a nice little theory.

[Lithp]

[Vesryn]

[Cioger]

Vesryn wrote:

[KTsteve]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06-NfTawWyk[/youtube]

Still highly doubt this is the last episode though. We've got one more

[GoWeskerMXGT]

Hello everybody, first time writing
I hope you can forgive me but i'm italian and my english can be a little wrong sometimes, so i hope i can explain my theory as well.

I will go straight to the point. I have the big feel that what we have all saw, it's not what really is.

First of all i don't know if you notice, but i don't see on the Twitter page about this last entry. And that i think is really really really strange. We all saw how Jay/Tim have told us things with twitter in those years. And if you add also the fact that Entry 85 ONLY have the youtube link without the "ENTRY #85:" things became to be a little to strange to me.

Second. I think we are all making a big big big mistake about the most important thing in this video. The problem is not this happened, but WHEN happened.
We all think that this entry starts a little AFTER entry 86. But i think all of this is BEFORE Entry 82.
And i think i can explain why.
The last time we saw the mask was in entry 83, and after Hoodie throw it to Tim, he moved her away then they start to run as hell because of TO. In the end of the video he had only the time to grab the pills and the tape before TO appears and he wake up in that field. Then i don't remember to see that mask again before now (if i'm wrong correct me)
My point is that things may have happen like this.
Entry 81 --->
Entry 87 : Tim goes to throw away the mask, Hoodie that is stalking him, recovers it --->
Entry 83 : Hoodie try to give back the mask to Tim

Other strange things to me are :
- No after words after entry 86
- No words from Tim after that and then suddenly this entry WITHOUT anything on Twitter
- That everything is fine just like the TTA vid

It seems to me like there's someone that want us to think that was Tim behind the last 2 entrys.... I have the feeling we have all the info right in front of us, but we can't connect things...

Hope you don't think i'm crazy with all of that ahahah Hope you reply in a good way

[Scowleasy]

The way I see it, this could go either way with being the final entry. but for all intents and purposes, this works as a final entry, and we should treat it as such. Tim didn't kill Jessica, he has no reason to. I understand that "the only way to end it is to kill everyone that's infected, and then yourself", but Tim was living a semi-normal life before Jay brought TO back to him. Now that Jessica hardly remembers anything about TO, Tim will leave and never see her again. Alex and Jay aren't around to stir up trouble anymore, so as long as Tim keeps his distance Jessica won't be in danger anymore.

If there is a follow-up entry, I imagine it would go something like this:

Tim knows that he can try to live some semblance of a normal life, but he'll always carry sorf of damage, in the form of the cough and fighting Masky's influence over him. Knowing that Jessica has no memory of what's happened, Tim is the last person TO could have a possible foothold on. After telling the audience that the footage will automatically be uploaded when the camera stops recording, Tim goes to Rosswood to confront TO for the last time. Either dying by TO's hand or killing himself, the camera, still recording, is left on the ground. Eventually, a family of campers walks by, and the little boy runs over, telling his parents, "I found a camera!" as he picks it up. Astonished, the boy says "and it's still recording". Subtle static and screen tear. Fade to black.

[Kraehtot]

I have mixed emotions. I didn't want Marble Hornets to end, but I think it has ended.

Even if I have mixed feelings about it, I will try to focus in the things I consider good about the ending:

It was a tired video made by a physically and mentaly tired man who has to struggle with all that has happened, an illlness and a monster. I understand those who say it was kind of underwhelming, but I feel it just fits so well with the series. I wouldn't expect a Tim sitting in front of the camera and talking to us about the horrible things that have been happening, it is just too much, he just wanted to show us Jessica is alive now that Alex (nor Jay) can find her and show us that he is "fine" and has "escaped" (either moving away or commiting suicide, I feel it's the first one). He has still a lot of shit to deal with in his mind: His friends are dead, he has killed someone and he is not okay, but he is willingly to say goodbye to "Marble Hornets". So, in a sense, "Everything is fine".


In another matter, I cannot stress how much I liked this series and all that makes it unique:


- Even if a fictional story with supernatural happenings in it, Marble Hornet has tried to be a REALISTIC story in the way the characters think, behave and confront their problems. Even if all of them have gone through the same, they have not acted the same because they were different people, with different lives and backgrounds and problems. We've seen the naive Alex Kralie become manipulated by an entity of anger and fear and still think it was the horrible but right thing to do. We've seen the lonely Jay become obsessed and consumed by his obsession. We've seen the sweet Brian loose his sanity and we've seen the troubled Tim try to deal with a problem that no longer is only his.

- The "horror" in Marble Hornets is also different. It is true that it was scary at first (and it was cool as heck), but it developed in a deeper sense of dread moving the importance to what really terror does to people and not that much in the horror itself. There were some scares, for sure, but the real fear was the solitude, the unknown, the feeling of being lost and how deeply it can affect to people, changing them, transforming them.
I've never seen that treatement to fear in media before.

- You may not agree with me in this one, but for me it is great and realistic the figure of Hoody (I am going to refere to him like that, due to I think it was little of Brian left behind) was not really that omniscient. He knew things, but he was not okay. I've got the feeling he mixed reality with delusions, his mind was as broken and encoded as his messages were. He was not a proxy or another supernatural entity, he was a wrecked man and his actions (which we and Jay have "trusted" for a long time), may have been wrong and fed on paranoia and led Jay and himself to death.


I have just seen the Entry and read the thread, so I've still got an akward feeling and there is not more I can say but that I am going to miss Marble Hornets and I've really enjoyed reading your theories all this time and it has been a great experience to be here to discuss and see others solve the TTA codes.

I am looking forward to see what the guys do next.

[censura_umbra]

So I read through half of this thread in search of help filling the void that this last entry left. I felt robbed. I was expecting more reflection, more build up and resolution, at least a little of TO, and more production. I expected a longer entry.

But reading through this thread and watching this entry over and over again has made me realize that it is perfect. They didn't answer everything, but they gave us enough hints to make our own conclusions. They brought up more questions, but of course they did! Its Marble Hornets, if they didn't make you ask more questions it wouldn't be an MH entry.

They left it so open too. It is perfectly ambiguous. It is just as likely that Tim killed Jessica and is off to end himself or that Tim is going to leave this life and try to lie low. I love that now that I think about it. This series ends however you want. Whatever you think of Tim after all of these entries will dictate how you view this ending.

All of these years MH has been leading to this ending. Red herrings, unanswered questions, vagueness. I stopped caring about concrete explanations years ago. I only kept coming here to theorize and see things that others saw that I couldn't.

With that, thank you Unfiction
You helped me see things about this series that I would have never seen myself, and I hope I helped some of you from time to time. This forum helped expose all the facts THAC intended us to see which allowed me to understand this series as best as I can.

But with this entry, I think they made all the hints as clear as possible. And now it is all up to what we think about Tim. There will probably never be a concrete answer. And I'm okay with that, some may think it is lazy writing. But I think it takes a lot of work to lead up to an ending and then direct that ending where it is just as likely for the protagonist to do either action that are on two ends of a spectrum.

The more I read this thread the more it warps my own opinion of this series. I am happy with what they've created. I enjoy the fact that they made us care so much and that they directed it so well and answered things just enough that we are 90% sure about things but there is still that 10% margin for the crazy people who obsess and leave a feeling of mystery even in the midst of answers.

Thank you everyone. This will be my last post here until another Entry comes out, another TTA comes out, an important Tweet arrives, some important DVD entry is found, or THAC says something game changing OOG, or a start a marathon session and I invite you all to join. Most of these things may not happen, but until then, good luck everyone with coping with this series. Thanks for the memories.

[Ristar]

The fact that this entry was released without any warning and in the exact same date than the Introduction video suggests that they intended it to be the ending...

Say what you will about what i'm going to say, but good series can be ruined by ambigous endings such as this one. No theory or answer is or will be confirmed to be true now. I said it before and i say it again ''What's the point of a mystery series where the answer is never revealed?''

[elford]

I don't think Tim killed Jessica either, otherwise he had no reason not to tell her the truth about Jay. If he told her the truth, that Jay was dead, she would become alarmed and ask a lot of questions, and Tim didn't want to go into that again, not only is that painful for him to think about, but it would be harder for Jessica to move on. She has little to no memory of Jay, and that's the way Tim wants it. I just don't think he would kill her, even if and especially if he was having one of his attacks.
I am thinking he edited the tape he was hiding from Jay so that he believed she was dead, so that he wouldn't try to contact her. That's all I am sure of right now, though, I am upset about my favorite thing probably being over, and the ambiguity of it all confuses me (which is how I feel after a lot of entries tbh!)

[MarbleHead]

So 30+ pages on the last entry about how Tim was actually dead, and hey look at that, he's not dead at all.

Great entry, and if THIS is the ending, I totally embrace it. Awesome show guys.