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[Lithp]

Personally, I'm interested in their next series, mostly because I can't hardly expect them to improve if I don't give them a chance. But I can't specifically argue against any of that. Although you could argue that they had 5 years to analyze the criticism...at any rate, a series that just falls into the same pattern as Marble Hornets definitely will not maintain my interest.

[Lytrigian]

[Lithp]

That is not how left & right work, but whatever, I don't care.

[Viden]

Now that is has been confirmed by multiple sources that this is indeed the last entry I have to say that I am more than disappointed.

Nothing was explained. 5 years of mystery and chasing and puzzle piecing all wasted. All of it was absolutely nothing in the end. Even when we did get answers, it was stripped down into the most simplistic nonchalant reveal that did nothing but raise more questions. Tim goes into a Masky state whenever he has a seizure. Well why is this? What is the Masky state? Is it a different personality? Is it his true personality? Does he have different memories? We find about Brain was Hoody, well okay how did he become Hoody in the first place? What was he really trying to accomplish all this time? Why did he do all of this? Was he really TTA? Why make such cryptic videos? What did they mean? Oh Jessica is still alive, well how is that? What happened to her? Why doesn't she remember anything? Why is she the only one to survive all of this? Why only protect her? All of it was tossed aside for some flashy gimmicks and "make your own answers" bullshit.

These last few entries did a piss poor job at trying to sum everything up at once with excuses. "Brain was simply a husk of a person." Hoody seemed like the only person who knew what the hell was going on! He seemed like he already knew the answers and pushed everyone in the direction he wanted them to go. 5 years of hints and careful planning. Running around helping Jay, fighting of the Operator and Alex, working toward a goal "take me to the ark." And in the end what was all of that boiled down to? "Yeah he was just crazy. Those slendy mind games."

Alex was one of the most complicated characters of them all. He was good, then he was bad, then he seemed to switched from scared and dismissive to violent and angry in a matter of seconds. (An example being after he giving those tapes to Jay attacking him suddenly for no reason) Then it seems like he's in league with the Operator. How is this? Doesn't he get the slendy sickness? Is he given powers by the Operator? Did he forgot this? When he said everyone was 'gone' did he do it himself? Or was it something else? How long? Why did he make such a drastic change during several instances? It seemed that Alex even had another Persona as it were. And even that is simply given a brush aside. Oh yeah he killed Amy and Seth and other people. Why? Because that's how we stop the Operator duh. I guess he's just crazy like the rest of them. Oh yeah and didn't he get trapped by Hoody that one time. And he escaped somehow. And that was never brought up or elaborated on. Oh, okay. Cool. Awesome.

TTA is the biggest and most debated thing of all. And all I have to say about that is the video Decline is made right after Hoody captures Alex. With one of the hidden codes being "Is he gone? Or have you made me a liar." Heavily hinting that there was a third person in the TTA group and/or TTA is separate from Hoody. But apparently not! It was just Brain being all crazy again.

5 years, and all we got was excuses. For those who say they are satisfied with the ending and are content with leaving everything to speculation or assumption you are better people than me. Because for me, I feel betrayed and appalled by how the creators ended things.

[Lithp]

To be fair, I've always said that this is just a follow-up of his threat to kill Alex, more-or-less saying that he failed to deliver on his threat:

"Is he gone? Or have you made me a liar."

Also, you have all inspired me to make a poll about the ending: http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1042713#1042713

[awakeasaurusrex]

[Jibbles]

the show makes a lot more sense if u accept that the operator is tims weird as fuck delusion and his powers make no sense at all and arent bound by any specific rules

[awakeasaurusrex]

With respect to THAC's next series: I am extremely interested, and I think there's grounds for being optimistic about it even if you think MH was fumbled.

My rationale for this is simple: MH began as a goof, with much of season 1 (especially the early entries) being improvised. It was only later that they sat down and tried to cobble together a continuity out of everything they had already established, and over the course of the seasons you can really watch them coming into their own in terms of the production process. Even then they found that they had to scrap and radically redo plans as they went along - for instance, season 2 was supposed to be the finale but they realised fairly late in the process that they just couldn't fit everything into that season.

This new series is going to be properly planned out and budgeted from the start. They will be able to draw on all the experience they've had making MH from the start. That means that I think it will hit a much higher and more consistent standard from the very beginning, and as it progresses it won't suffer in the way MH did from having its continuity and plot only actually worked out partway through the process.

[Zarggg]

I don't think this series was ever about the details. The direction was unclear in the first season, but seasons two and three definitely seemed to be going in an intentionally ambiguous direction.

Based on the ending, I believe we're supposed to think that it's possible that this whole thing is some kind of shared hallucination stemming from some kind of contagious insanity (as evidenced by the use of pills), but with enough doubt to make us really wonder what was going on.

That's the meaning of the ending: "What was real and what was all in their minds?" We don't know. They don't know. Maybe Tim knows, but he's certainly not telling.

[Viden]

[samiam]

Completely agree with all those disappointed and upset. My wife asked me to explain why I was so disappointed. The only comparison I could come up with is if we had had sex for the last 5 years and never reached orgasm. This series was nothing but an extended case of blue-balls.

I'm willing to give them some slack when it comes to the first and beginning of second season as they never thought that it would get as big as it did. The last season? Nope. They should have had a story arc planned out. This feels more like they threw their hands up and just walked away.

I had finally talked people into watching it but had to go back and tell them to stop now before they fell into the trap that I did...expecting a plot with some resolution.

[SilentMedusa]

Now that we know this is the end, I'm really disappointed. Like I said before, I never expected all the answers, but I think I was justified in expecting some.

Actually, besides "is Tim dead" the only answer I got was to a question I didn't ask. I was perfectly okay with Jessica being dead, because (in my opinion) she didn't add anything at all to the plot. Not even at the very end; "look, Jessica's alive!" they tell us. And? No insight, no information, not even another dreaded tape. She's just... there.

[fredsolo]

Underwhelming. Would've been interesting if Season 1 or 2 ended like this with Jay instead of Tim but after 5 years and a sudden change in protagonist I was expecting something a lot more climactic.

Should've ended when Jay got killed. He is the character that was driving the story and I mean did we gain anything from following Tim for the last couple months?

[Blackout_2014]

[Lithp]