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lonsumtravlr wrote:
Striker wrote:
Inglorion wrote:
Viden wrote:
Striker wrote:
Dacad wrote:
Now that I've had a while to mull it over, I am..... satisfied with the ending. Sure, there's more I wanted, but most of my big questions were answered. I can guess what the Ark is well enough on my own, I never wanted to know what the Operator is (that would destroy it). I would have preferred to have some information about the doll, the pills, and the symbol, but otherwise, I'm satisfied. I suspect I'm in the minority here, but that's how I feel.

I think I'm with the small amount of people who think it was just symbol of the Operator's lack of eyes or something Alex used to show where he was filming Marble Hornets. The doll, I'm with the people who think it's just something Tim had when he was still mentally unstable, the pills are shown to be some kind of seizure-preventing pills (suggesting that the Operator and Masky emit some kind of radiation or electricity wave that messes with technology).
The pills being a seizure medication also supports my theory that the pills do actually work, but only on Slendersickness and do not stop the Operator from coming near you/teleporting you (as seen in Entry #86).


Because nothing was expanded on your best bet is to take everything very literally and not look to deep into anything, although that's not very fun or interesting in my opinion it'll have to do.

The Operator symbol is just that, a symbol. It symbolises anything relating to the operator and has no special significance or powers.

The doll is just a doll. Again, simply represents the operator and has no special significance or power.

The pills as we seen help you retain your composure and consciousness when you are around the operator, but does not prevent his appearance, make you invulnerable to him, or make you immune to his effects (albeit it is safe to say it dampens them to a certain degree).

The biggest question about the pills would be about Tim's Masky state. As nobody else seemed to develop this "state" in the series, we can only assume this it is a part of Tim's long term mental issues and not a part of the Operators influence. And we can also assume this state is maybe a part of Tim's true personality (evidence being working with hoody as Masky - Entry #45) Unfortunately because again, this is never expanded on or explained, we cannot come form any conclusions other than the pills for Tim also work for suppressing his other personality but this isn't significant in anyone else who takes them (Hoody and very briefly Jay)



But Hoody has caused distortion. His appearance in Entry #41, for example.
Maybe I'm missing something, but what do you mean when you say Tim is the only one to exhibit a Masky-esque state in the series? Isn't Brian another example of this? They both wear signature face-coverings, they both seem to want to conceal their identities from those who would seek to reveal them, they both use Tim's prescription pills and even fight over them, and they both seem incapable of speech, or much rationality for that matter, in this state. I think Brian exhibits almost exactly the same symptoms as Tim.

The differences between Tim and Brian is that Tim's alternate, insane personality is just that, a personality. Brian on the other hand has never switched out of "Masky-mode", suggesting that this isn't a Masky-esque state, but he has literally lost all sanity. Plus, the pills actually do seem to work for Masky, but not for Hoody. And Hoody doesn't emit that technological-interference Masky is known for.

That was a very enlightening repost of the quote pyramid.

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TheJoker wrote:
That was a very enlightening repost of the quote pyramid.


I don't know what the bloody hell's wrong with my laptop.

THIS was my post: But Hoody has caused distortion. His appearance in Entry #41, for example.

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lonsumtravlr wrote:
TheJoker wrote:
That was a very enlightening repost of the quote pyramid.


I don't know what the bloody hell's wrong with my laptop.

THIS was my post: But Hoody has caused distortion. His appearance in Entry #41, for example.


And also Hoody's TTA videos exhibit a different style after he's jacked Tim's pills. They become less batshit insane and more coherent. I'm not saying he was the type to hold a job after taking the pills, but it helped some.

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Inglorion wrote:
lonsumtravlr wrote:
TheJoker wrote:
That was a very enlightening repost of the quote pyramid.


I don't know what the bloody hell's wrong with my laptop.

THIS was my post: But Hoody has caused distortion. His appearance in Entry #41, for example.


And also Hoody's TTA videos exhibit a different style after he's jacked Tim's pills. They become less batshit insane and more coherent. I'm not saying he was the type to hold a job after taking the pills, but it helped some.


See this is what I meant by you can't look too deep into anything. To reiterate, since they didn't elaborate or explain anything we can only accept what was specifically shown or said.

We were specifically shown that without the pills Tim would return to his Masky state. We were never deliberately shown Hoody ever changing personalities or states with or without pills. Hence this is only significant in Tim and not Brian.

And TTA is a whole other issue. Some say that Tim (in a Masky state) posted videos and then Hoody started posting videos and I still bring up the TTA post "Decline" as evidence that there was even supposed to be the third person in TTA so we have no clue who could of uploaded any of those videos in any context.

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Viden wrote:
See this is what I meant by you can't look too deep into anything. To reiterate, since they didn't elaborate or explain anything we can only accept what was specifically shown or said.


Respectfully, I think that's not true. A lot has been shown in the entries that the characters may not either be aware of or else may not be able to interpret. But those of us watching can step outside the mystery and try to put pieces together. Much of Marble Hornets is quite surreal in that emotions, fears, thoughts are somehow captured on the screen and might not make logical in the sense of rational sense but make (or at least may make) complete "sense" in their environment or situation. It's also quite expressionistic, in that some of the situations being recorded are exaggerated or distorted on screen to heighten the emotional aspect. It's not stuff that can be put into an If A and B, therefore C, and A, and B, so C! format. I think a lot of what Troy et al.'s done in this respect at least borders on genius. the problem is when you try to use it to tell as much of the story as dialogue and more conventional plot devices.

In other words, we're being shown a LOT, and, no, you don't just have to sit back and accept it because the significance isn't readily apparent.

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 		IMO a lot of ideas were dropped as they went along and they will never confirm that but it's clear as day that they were. Therefore, I don't care about theorizing anything in regards to the entire series anymore.

I just rewatched the entire series today and it's so evident how they dropped the ball in the end, that they were just stringing people along with mysteries they were never going to answer, chalking it up to LOL OPERATOR MAGIC

Also, the story as a whole has severely less impact rewatching the whole thing knowing the ending.

The entire story of season 1's past footage is deception set up by Alex. The entirety of season 2 is Jay trying to find answers and not getting any, only finding more mysteries. The first half of season 3 is Tim's backstory that has no real relevance to anything in the end. The second half of season 3 has a few cool shots but is ultimately just one big answer to Alex's motives and then everyone important dying before they can have some resolve.

In the end the operator comes off as weak. Sure losing memories and being abducted sucks, but death is a worse fate. In the end he wasn't even the real villain, Alex was. I understand why they went that route, but they failed to address anything in regards to the operator other than his ability to spread. He is the reason anyone watched it in the first place, and became a side character at best.

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 		Can I just put this here? It's from the original S3 announcement from 2011's FAQ thing that Troy put on his blog.

Q: The ending is going to be one giant ambiguous wad where nothing gets resolved and no questions are fully answered, isn't it.
A: Come on, I'm no David Lynch.

3 years later...
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ledzepfilm wrote:
Can I just put this here? It's from the original S3 announcement from 2011's FAQ thing that Troy put on his blog.

Q: The ending is going to be one giant ambiguous wad where nothing gets resolved and no questions are fully answered, isn't it.
A: Come on, I'm no David Lynch.

3 years later...


Pfft! Ha! If anything, Lynch seems to be one of his biggest influences.

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 		Ah, there it is. That particular Q&A is the main reason I'm slightly pissed off, really. Although I suppose he didn't technically say "no".

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TheJoker wrote:
Ah, there it is. That particular Q&A is the main reason I'm slightly pissed off, really. Although I suppose he didn't technically say "no".


I hate to say it (no I don't), but I think Mulholland Dr. was more straightforward than Marble Hornets. (That doesn't mean I think it's an "easy" film. But it's more coherent in the third act than MH is, or at least seems to be.)

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Ah, there it is. That particular Q&A is the main reason I'm slightly pissed off, really. Although I suppose he didn't technically say "no".


I guess I'm slightly more disappointed in Troy that he went that route instead of avoiding it.
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 		I wouldn't have been as disappointed if he had never gone and actually made that implied promise.

Another thing for the upcoming Reddit Q&A, guys- someone could ask him how he would explain that comment in light of the ending.

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 		If Troy promised nothing of the ending, or followed through of what he implied in his answer a few years ago, I wouldn't be disappointed.
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 		I feel like this conversation is starting to get a little repetitive. We keep repeating each other's points and sentiments. Almost like we're stuck in a loop.

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 		...a loop of unhappiness.

Nice, somebody accurately predicted the ending and Troy lied about it.

666th post, be afraid.

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