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aidansean
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Lithp wrote:
1. When the Totheark video was released, even if Jay hadn't remembered, it would have made sense to look back & see if there was someone who could have been filming him.

2. So the fact that Jay has already confronted someone under suspicion of being ToTheArk once proves that he wouldn't do it again? Yeah, no.

3 & 4. Okay, fine, technically, Jay could have conceivably not noticed Totheark walking around in broad daylight, & maybe there was no one else around to gawk at Hoody & clue Jay in that something weird was going on, but that's really contrived, & Point 1 would still stand.

5. We're not talking about Rule of Drama or every other scene where someone didn't see something. I wasn't even planning to have an argument about this, but if you're going to insist on proving that it actually makes sense, stick to that subject.


I wasn't trying to pick a fight or anything, just saying why it's reasonable that Jay might not have noticed Hoody. Even if everything I said was wrong that still doesn't change the fact that either Jay didn't see Hoody, or didn't care about it. If you still have a problem with that then your beef isn't with me, it's with Trosephim. (For example I still think there's no way the static holes tapes would have been untouched and undamaged by water for six whole years, but that's the way Trosephim decided to write the series so that's what I've got to accept in order to enjoy the series.)

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Blackout_2014
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rkmobius wrote:
Jay also barely talks about or even explicitly acknowledges a tall malevolent extradimensional being in a suit who either hides in plain sight or stalks him and others in the videos he posted.

Usually it's a passing reference to "that thing" instead of "what the hell was that oh my god why is it stalking us what is it what does it do what does it want i'm so scared hold me" like most people probably would say.

So it's not surprising that he doesn't point out "hey, also there was this guy in a sweatshirt holding something a hundred feet away." Jay didn't really react to things or talk about them like a normal person would.


It always odd that no one ever referenced the situation that they were in. Faceless monster, masked people, weird communications from another youtube channel, possible murderous person trailing them. Jay would just get up like it was another day.

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aidansean
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Blackout_2014 wrote:
rkmobius wrote:
Jay also barely talks about or even explicitly acknowledges a tall malevolent extradimensional being in a suit who either hides in plain sight or stalks him and others in the videos he posted.

Usually it's a passing reference to "that thing" instead of "what the hell was that oh my god why is it stalking us what is it what does it do what does it want i'm so scared hold me" like most people probably would say.

So it's not surprising that he doesn't point out "hey, also there was this guy in a sweatshirt holding something a hundred feet away." Jay didn't really react to things or talk about them like a normal person would.


It always odd that no one ever referenced the situation that they were in. Faceless monster, masked people, weird communications from another youtube channel, possible murderous person trailing them. Jay would just get up like it was another day.


Hmm, after thinking about this I couldn't help thinking "What would happen if Jay had all his memories before 2009 wiped?" He'd think that it was completely normal to be stalked by a 10 foot faceless guy in the woods and wouldn't think it was worth mentioning at all. I don't think that's what happened, but as a conecpt it's as creepy as heck. Hmm, maybe this belongs in the dumbest theories thread.

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LBfly
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Not exactly my favourite screen grab but i love how the paper written BRIAN with an X (the entry Jay and Tim are looking inside Alex's old house, season 3, and find the papers with names from the Marble Hornets actors crossed out) right above Brian's name theres a "SEES ME". Subtle. Hehe

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Lithp
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aidansean wrote:
Blackout_2014 wrote:
rkmobius wrote:
Jay also barely talks about or even explicitly acknowledges a tall malevolent extradimensional being in a suit who either hides in plain sight or stalks him and others in the videos he posted.

Usually it's a passing reference to "that thing" instead of "what the hell was that oh my god why is it stalking us what is it what does it do what does it want i'm so scared hold me" like most people probably would say.

So it's not surprising that he doesn't point out "hey, also there was this guy in a sweatshirt holding something a hundred feet away." Jay didn't really react to things or talk about them like a normal person would.


It always odd that no one ever referenced the situation that they were in. Faceless monster, masked people, weird communications from another youtube channel, possible murderous person trailing them. Jay would just get up like it was another day.


Hmm, after thinking about this I couldn't help thinking "What would happen if Jay had all his memories before 2009 wiped?" He'd think that it was completely normal to be stalked by a 10 foot faceless guy in the woods and wouldn't think it was worth mentioning at all. I don't think that's what happened, but as a conecpt it's as creepy as heck. Hmm, maybe this belongs in the dumbest theories thread.


Unless he already considered it normal before his memory was erased, he would retain a ton of knowledge telling him that it is abnormal. Thoughts of finding answers about it, surprise at encountering it, etc.

Regarding the other thing, my "beef" is with the notion that Jay, whose life might literally depend on it, couldn't have found where he was being watched from when someone on the board did just fine. Yes, this would include that THAC wrote a lot of holes into the characters' actions.

That's not really surprising information, considering I've criticized their writing for the better part of Season 3. They have outstanding cinematography that I often forget to take notice of, & good ideas, but they need to work on making a coherent plot out of those things.

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aidansean
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Lithp wrote:
Regarding the other thing, my "beef" is with the notion that Jay, whose life might literally depend on it, couldn't have found where he was being watched from when someone on the board did just fine.


I did some digging into the archives and it turns out that nobody on unfiction caught this before the totheark video Reminder was released. (Source). Shameful day for all of us at unfiction!

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Barry_Shinigami
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All this discussion is great and all, but could we please go back to the screen grabs, as that's what this thread was about. Please understand that I'm not trying to be rude or stop this discussion, I just really want some awesome screen grabs Very Happy

also how does one attach pictures to posts?

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Dacad
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Lithp wrote:
aidansean wrote:
Lithp wrote:
Where is Hoody? Is he that brown splotch? And how would Jay not turn around & see that?


Why would Jay think it odd that another person was on a street during the day?


Because he has a mask. Also, I believe Jay already knew about Hoody by this point.


Was he wearing a mask in that shot, though? I can't even fully tell if he was wearing his Hoody. I imagine that one scene in Watchmen where Rorschach sees Silk Specter and Night Owl in public, and notes that they didn't recognize him because he wasn't wearing his "face".

And even if he was wearing his usual attire, I'd like to remind everyone that a lot of people didn't even notice him standing there. Jay could have easily missed him standing there, especially if he wasn't standing there for long.

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Lithp
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Dacad wrote:
Lithp wrote:
aidansean wrote:
Lithp wrote:
Where is Hoody? Is he that brown splotch? And how would Jay not turn around & see that?


Why would Jay think it odd that another person was on a street during the day?


Because he has a mask. Also, I believe Jay already knew about Hoody by this point.


Was he wearing a mask in that shot, though? I can't even fully tell if he was wearing his Hoody. I imagine that one scene in Watchmen where Rorschach sees Silk Specter and Night Owl in public, and notes that they didn't recognize him because he wasn't wearing his "face".

And even if he was wearing his usual attire, I'd like to remind everyone that a lot of people didn't even notice him standing there. Jay could have easily missed him standing there, especially if he wasn't standing there for long.


Silk Specter & Night Owl had no idea who Walter Kovacs was. Jay knows Brian

As to your 2nd thing, I have already addressed it: Even if you want to say that Jay wouldn't notice at the time, after seeing the Totheark videos, he should have reviewed the footage before going, "Well, derp, there was nobody around to film me."

Any shortness or irritability on my part relates to this:

http://josephdelage.tumblr.com/post/90640930564/are-you-expecting-fans-to-surround-in-anger-because-of

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awakeasaurusrex
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What's wrong with that? Looks like a completely reasonable position to take on his part. How would the characters get any answers that weren't just wild speculation on their part? (Indeed, isn't Alex's story arc a cautionary tale against clinging to pet theories and speculation?)

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Lithp
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awakeasaurusrex wrote:
What's wrong with that? Looks like a completely reasonable position to take on his part. How would the characters get any answers that weren't just wild speculation on their part? (Indeed, isn't Alex's story arc a cautionary tale against clinging to pet theories and speculation?)


I go over why it pisses me off in the General Thac Discussion Thread. The short version is:

A. It's a cop out. If you can't figure out how to tell the plot, it means you wrote yourself in a hole.

B. Now I've got people rubbing it in my face that "Marble Hornets was never about the answers," to which I say, "Fine, then going forward, if they aren't giving answers, I'm going to assume they don't want me to give a shit about their plot." And I don't follow plots that I don't give a shit about.

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Cyan507
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Speaking of screenshots/screengrabs has anyone ever noticed that a few of the unspoilery screenshots tweeted by Troy haven't actually been used in many Entries or even been representative of them properly?

for example



and



Now I understand that's splitting hairs but bear with me.



This shot wasn't used once in all of Entry#65, not even in the hidden frames (and there are many). It's reasonable to assume it was the lake Tim's drowning sequence was filmed in but I can't see why we got this as an unspoilery screenshot. The shot is clearly shot on Jay/Hoody's camera and not Tim's. Even though Tim's camera was the majority of 65's content. My guess it could have been a location for Tim to meet Jay afterwards, or we could have another Entry #37 waiting for us on the Season 3 DVD? *crosses fingers*

EDIT: I'm kinda bummed out they didn't use this, even in a TTA vid. It's a lovely shot.

And last but not least,



and



pretty sure people had a fit when 63 first came out due to the colossal continuity hiccup on the count of Tim's hair but what's interesting is that they did in fact film the same scene before Tim cut his hair and shaved. Why they didn't use this I'm not sure, but I'm sure they had a good reason. I hate to nag about MH's continuity because it really doesn't phase me much Very Happy

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I have a feeling that the "unspoilery, uninteresting screenshots" were mostly alternate takes that ended up not being used. But they still fit the definition.

Troy started posting them as kind of "proof" that they were, in fact, filming new entries.

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The Spirit of Christmas
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In regards to the unused lake screenshot from Entry #65,

http://youtu.be/tLax_MaimDo

Tim explains here that they had to reshoot their meeting at the end of the entry, as they weren't happy with the quality of the performances. They just happened to reshoot it in the carpark instead of the location shown in the screenshot.

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