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When Did Alex Start Killing?
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Dacad
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When Did Alex Start Killing?

Exactly what it says. Personally, I think Bruce was the first person to be killed by Alex. Entry 29 shows his reaction to the killing. As for Amy, I suspect he either sent her away somewhere while he tried to figure out how to deal with Jay's videos, totheark, and the Operator, or Amy really was taken by the Operator, only to be released after Alex started killing people.

In Entry 72, Tim notes that Alex's attack on Jay in Entry 71 didn't look planned. This might also be true for his attacks on Tim and Brian at the hospital. During the student film, I believe that Alex wasn't try to kill anybody, only give them to the Operator.

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Logically, I'm guessing Sarah and/or Seth were his first victims, as Amy didn't find the camera until after his "confessional" (where he says everyone is "gone") and deciding to try to get away from everything.

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There is no evidence of Sarah or Seth being alive after the original Marble Hornets shoot was cancelled. None. So I think that they were his first successful killings. (Brian and Tim were failed attempts, foiled by the intervention of the Operator due to his mask/hood-related plans for them.)

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Counting failed attempts, I think this is the chronology.

Alex attacks Tim in the hospital (yes, with the "stick").

Alex comes back that night, sets up Seth, tries to be sure that Tim's gone (this is the night vision Entry #57).

Next day: Entry #51: Alex leaves Brian (and maybe Tim) for dead.

Sarah likely offed. Then when Alex prepares to leave, he attacks Jay and thinks he's gone.

Four years later, when TO resurfaces, Alex kills Amy.

Alex attacks Tim/Masky, tries to keep Jessica out of it, kills "Bruce," attempts to kill Jay and Jessica (Entry #52), tries to kill Jessica again (Entry #76), tries to keep Jay from being attacked by TO in the tunnel, ambushes Hoody/Brian in the abandoned building, kills Jay, then the final entries.

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Geneaux486
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First victim? The written word, when he wrote that dialogue.

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Geneaux486 wrote:
First victim? The written word, when he wrote that dialogue.


The dialogue was his little secret. It really felt like there was magic in the world. Without the true Marble Hornets (the student film) the world is stuck in a loop of unhappiness.

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There's still magic in this world, knightmare.

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Blackout_2014
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It's hard to say. I would like to say Bruce, but you never did see Seth or Sarah again so who knows?

Of course the operator taking people and bringing them back never made much sense to me.

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My rationale for saying Bruce is that Alex didn't really try to kill anybody during the shooting of the film (that we saw anyway). He attacked people and left them for the Operator, but we didn't really see any lethal force (a knife, a gun, or at least double tapping after they fall).

Also, take a look at Entry 29. I interpret that as the point where the Operator fully took control of Alex. Alex saw that he'd been driven to kill a person, and he was broken completely. He'd been struggling against killing for a while (do I help or do I kill?), but this is where he was lost. I also believe that Alex really was struggling with what to do about Jay. For a while, it seemed like Jay was only there to lure out Masky and Hoody, but Alex never did anything with Jay (Jay himself noted that).

Sarah and Seth could have easily been dealt with off camera while Jay was uploading Season 2. They could have been living like Jay was before the series began. It's not like they were terribly important in the grand scheme of things.

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Dacad wrote:
My rationale for saying Bruce is that Alex didn't really try to kill anybody during the shooting of the film (that we saw anyway). He attacked people and left them for the Operator, but we didn't really see any lethal force (a knife, a gun, or at least double tapping after they fall).

Also, take a look at Entry 29. I interpret that as the point where the Operator fully took control of Alex. Alex saw that he'd been driven to kill a person, and he was broken completely. He'd been struggling against killing for a while (do I help or do I kill?), but this is where he was lost. I also believe that Alex really was struggling with what to do about Jay. For a while, it seemed like Jay was only there to lure out Masky and Hoody, but Alex never did anything with Jay (Jay himself noted that).

Sarah and Seth could have easily been dealt with off camera while Jay was uploading Season 2. They could have been living like Jay was before the series began. It's not like they were terribly important in the grand scheme of things.


To be honest, that was where Marble Hornets let me down quite a bit. Hoody's identity was teased out for so long and Seth, Sarah and Brian were all nearly in equal running to be Hoody (particularly with Troseph imparting to us out of game that Hoody's body type with the various differents actors who played him) , but there was no real pull by the narrative towards one or the other. Did Entry #83 make me man cry? Yes, yes, it did. But after the wait, after the build up, the way it was just dropped on us and the narrative moved on was disappointing.

(At the time, I suspected the tape might have been a bluff by Hoody to make us thing he/she was Brian and we were in for another twist, but well, alas)

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Alex's motivations were odd throughout the series. At first it seemed like he had made a deal with the operator to give everyone to him, but only to wipe their minds.

Then he seemed to snap when TO came back into the picture. I think after Bruce he started killing people off. So around that time he killed Seth, Brian, and Amy off camera.

After that its a weird cat and mouse game with Jay. He could just kill him, but doesn't do it for whatever reason.

Same with Hoody afterwards, just kill Alex already!

Post probably doesn't make much sense, but Alex's evolution over the course of the series didn't either.

The only thing I can say with certainty is that by the end he really did believe he had to kill everyone. When he shoots Jay there's no more apology. Just bullets. Don't know why he started talking again in his showdown with Tim.

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