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[SilentMedusa]

Okay. Remember in season 2 when Alex was still filming himself? And since he wasn't sharing the video with anyone we assumed he was doing it because he was still having memory problems? remember how, at the very end of season 2 Jay stole his camera? Good. Now keep that in mind as I spin this theory:

Alex didn't fully remember the events of #76. He might've been aware of what he intended to do, but couldn't recall all the details of what happened. And he didn't have a camera to film himself. He probably believed he'd killed her, and when he saw #76 -the same version we all saw, that may have been edited to look like Jessica had been killed- it would have confirmed that belief. During that actual night, he probably found the camera laying on the ground (which he'd last seen in Jessica's hands), and assumed The Operator had gotten her.

There. Problem solved .

[Lithp]

[420Goku]

[Lithp]

[DHawk314]

It's not a handwaved explanation. It was made explicitly during Season 1 that totheark and Tim were stalking Jay. Decay explained why. Jay was looking for Alex. They wanted Jay to lead them to Alex.

I don't even know what you're talking about with the tape. Tim woke up with the tape in his jacket pocket in 62. It was filmed on Brian's camera, and Brian was there in 62, so presumably Brian retrieved his camera after 76, and put it in Tim's pocket when he dropped them off near that shack.

Tim watched the tape after 62 had already happened. He didn't remember any of it, except presumably waking up at the end, but he hid it from Jay so that he wouldn't blame him for what happened to Jessica.

We see Jay have weird trance states he can't remember, and we see the Operator make Alex more violent and begin writing cryptic messages, so presumably the masked persona is some ultimate extent of the Operator's various mental symptoms, which happens to Brian, and Tim as a child. Tim is able to suppress it with pills, Brian isn't as successful. We see how Tim became a masked person through his masked self doing lots of stuff his childhood self did, the implication being that this created it. It's assumed the same thing happened to Brian because he wears a mask too and acts the same way.

[420Goku]

[DHawk314]

Okay, I knew I forgot something, the ark. I'm certain, because it's obvious and also I think they mentioned it once, that they didn't know what the ark was when totheark began, and he was just this excuse to use ARG-esc code videos. They built a plot around this. They really don't mention the ark very much in the series, but at some point they must have decided what it was, for the sake of filling that in. For whatever reason, they wanted to leave it up to interpretation what it was.

Because I think it was minor, I'm not too bothered by this. The thing is, Marble Hornets was originally just a video version of Slender Man pictures on SA. It was hosted on YouTube, and eventually grew a large fanbase outside of SA. Because of this, they made something more out of it, something I the ultimately was better. But there's no way they could have predicted what it would become.

So here's what I think: If I were to conceit Marble Hornets had one flaw, it's that it wasn't planned out from the start. I think the resulting flaws were really minor, but they're noticeable. And considering what they were working with when they started making it into a bigger thing, I think it was excellent. But, I think their next series won't suffer from this, which is why I have a lot of faith in them.

But yeah it's not meaningless bullshit no matter which way you slice it. If you think it seems flawed because of some planning issue, I can't totally disagree, but the story has some aspects you're supposed to interpret, it was always like that, and I like it that way. If you don't, I think you expected something unrealistic from this series.

EDIT: I'm sorry if I typoed anything, or messed up the grammar, I had a drink midway through this whole conversation.

[Lithp]

[DHawk314]

Dude I think your timeline is really off. By the time the masked people followed Jay to Alex in 26/34/35, Jay had already been filmed by totheark in Brian's house in 16, been attacked by Tim in 18, and filmed Tim breaking into his house in 19. There is no "plot convenience" about it, you're just confused.

What happened to Tim as a child, hallucinating and crawling at the walls, was correlated to the Operator, by 66, and 60.5. We see Tim do this in the present in 65 in what seems to be some other state of mind which he later can't remember. This is after 61/62 where Tim runs off to Rosswood as Masky, something he's said to have done as a child in 60.5. And in 66, he says he ran away to there because he was running from "whatever [he] was seeing." Which is implied to be the Operator. Everything Masky does is implied to have to do with the Operator. The doll Masky has, which Jay finds with Tim's childhood medical records, looks like the Operator.

Brian was led the Operator in 51. In 73, he has many symptoms of the Operator. I think the masked states' correlation to Operator exposure was really clear. Actually, I even forgot about 55. Tim calls his doctor, complains about symptoms and Jay says "It seems like he was having symptoms similar to Alex's during Marble Hornets, maybe this wears the early version of what became this" and the he shows the clip of Masky from 18. Also, Tim becomes Masky in 61/62 because he can't takethe pills he uses to treat his Operator symptoms.

Alex's cryptic messages literally say "Operator" and have pictures of the thing, and Hoody's are very similar. Everything about the masked personas is linked to symptoms of the Operator.

I think the ark is the way it is because they weren't planning things out much when totheark began. Then they had to fill in that pothole. I admitted it made a flaw, but I don't think it was just "Let's make this look mysterious so we can bullshit the fans". That's what I disagree with. That's not bullshitting, it just has to do with working around the nature of the early on series.

[SilentMedusa]

[Craig Digsby]

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1013729#1013729

^ This was a year ago. My first announcing of the AMA. Kinda.
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[Viden]

"'Skully' was originally going to be the masked version of Jay. We instead scrapped that. Skully is still out there though........."

Do you know how cool that would of been?! And would added another element to the series. Wow, I'm disappointed that never made it in but at the same time I have mixed feelings about it never getting implemented. It would of definitely changed the series a lot, and not necessarily for the better. But that would of been really interesting to see. If only we could have like a Marble Horents Alternate Universe Entries.

Edit: Actually they seemed to scrap a lot of previous ideas or plot points. Some which I am actually very sad never made it into MH. As they were really interesting and unnerving. I have to say they cut out a lot of what I would of liked to see for a more straightforward story. Which is fine if that's what you like. Also it is confirmed that "Hoody was just crazy" and personally that is the biggest thing I am disappointed about. As I've said, so much potential yet none of it used.

[Dr. Leonard Mengele]

God, I haven't logged in to UF in absolute ages. How are you guys doing? Haven't seen many of you since early Season 2. I did a bunch of audio/TTA deciphering on season 1 here, left around entry 35 for college and stuff. Saw the AMA on Facebook, decided to pop in and look around.

[Viden]

[MistrPibb]

Anyone else feel suspicious of how they kept referring to Skully as "still out there" after saying it was a scrapped idea? I'll bet they're going to use Skully to bridge MH to their new series somehow