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Gante
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 		It's funny. I thought I was ready for closure in Marble Hornets, but now that I have it. I'm suffering badly from withdrawal. I'm trying to get into TribeTwelve, but it takes longer to update than MH ever did. I can't wait to get my 3rd season DVD!

I also can't wait for Trosephim's next project. Another fictional universe to dive into!

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Dacad wrote:
Hasn't HABIT more or less taken over Everyman Hybrid as the main villain by now? I've only seen the later episodes of EMH.


Not entirely clear.

It started out looking like Habit worked for Slenderman.

Now it's come out that it's either a partnership of convenience or Habit is subservient to it in some way but still works against it.

Slenderman's appearances have become less & less, but it's the crossover that really threw a monkey wrench into things.

Has the Slenderman plot become abandoned because they don't want to contradict anyone else's vlog? Or are they still planning to get back to it?

Either way, it's a bit of a hasty conclusion that Habit has taken over as the main villain just because there is an admittedly long Habit Arc.

Speaking of, I'm just now starting to feel the effects of EverymanHYBRID withdrawal, but still not really Marble Hornets. There's not really a sense that it had anything left to tell me. Brian did crazy things. The Operator did spooky things. No real reason for any of the specifics, no deeper mystery.

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Lithp wrote:
Dacad wrote:
Hasn't HABIT more or less taken over Everyman Hybrid as the main villain by now? I've only seen the later episodes of EMH.


Not entirely clear.

It started out looking like Habit worked for Slenderman.

Now it's come out that it's either a partnership of convenience or Habit is subservient to it in some way but still works against it.

Slenderman's appearances have become less & less, but it's the crossover that really threw a monkey wrench into things.

Has the Slenderman plot become abandoned because they don't want to contradict anyone else's vlog? Or are they still planning to get back to it?

Either way, it's a bit of a hasty conclusion that Habit has taken over as the main villain just because there is an admittedly long Habit Arc.

Speaking of, I'm just now starting to feel the effects of EverymanHYBRID withdrawal, but still not really Marble Hornets. There's not really a sense that it had anything left to tell me. Brian did crazy things. The Operator did spooky things. No real reason for any of the specifics, no deeper mystery.


Bear in mind they have a lot more to work with using the HABIT character. Slenderman and the Rake were both existing creatures on the net. HABIT was original. So they can do whatever they want with him, plus as Vinny says "he's the only one who can talk."

I don't think it ever looked like HABIT worked for Slenderman, would you refer to your boss as "stick in the mud?"

I am too getting the withdrawal, I just hope they know how and when to end the series.

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 		Checked out Caught not Sleeping and really liked it, so thanks to the people who brought it up for the couple of sleepless nights it caused as I marathoned through all the main and major videos and chat logs. Now I'm just waiting on getting the password to the chat so I can maybe join in the fun. And speaking of the chat, anyone wanting to get into CNS will need to read the chat logs to get all of the story. And there are a lot of chat logs. My recommendation is to follow along the wiki timelines and you should do mostly do okay.

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Cyan507 wrote:
Lithp wrote:
Dacad wrote:
Hasn't HABIT more or less taken over Everyman Hybrid as the main villain by now? I've only seen the later episodes of EMH.


Not entirely clear.

It started out looking like Habit worked for Slenderman.

Now it's come out that it's either a partnership of convenience or Habit is subservient to it in some way but still works against it.

Slenderman's appearances have become less & less, but it's the crossover that really threw a monkey wrench into things.

Has the Slenderman plot become abandoned because they don't want to contradict anyone else's vlog? Or are they still planning to get back to it?

Either way, it's a bit of a hasty conclusion that Habit has taken over as the main villain just because there is an admittedly long Habit Arc.

Speaking of, I'm just now starting to feel the effects of EverymanHYBRID withdrawal, but still not really Marble Hornets. There's not really a sense that it had anything left to tell me. Brian did crazy things. The Operator did spooky things. No real reason for any of the specifics, no deeper mystery.


Bear in mind they have a lot more to work with using the HABIT character. Slenderman and the Rake were both existing creatures on the net. HABIT was original. So they can do whatever they want with him, plus as Vinny says "he's the only one who can talk."

I don't think it ever looked like HABIT worked for Slenderman, would you refer to your boss as "stick in the mud?"

I am too getting the withdrawal, I just hope they know how and when to end the series.


Yes. And for/with, I don't precisely remember, but I stated throughout that whole "They were never together" phase that the fans were going through that this was selectively ignoring several key points, such as that he states that he had Slenderman's help at several points in Canyouseethewords & that he implicated that he was waiting for Slenderman to appear when he was killing that guy who shall remain namelss because of spoilers in the woods.

Either way, I still want to see Slim & Gollum come back into the plot. I was so disappointed when they didn't show the Rake just massacring Evan. They didn't kill the Rake off, did they? I doubt it. If you were going to do that, it would make sense to go full-circle & give the Rake an origin.

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Lithp wrote:
Cyan507 wrote:
Lithp wrote:
Dacad wrote:
Hasn't HABIT more or less taken over Everyman Hybrid as the main villain by now? I've only seen the later episodes of EMH.


Not entirely clear.

It started out looking like Habit worked for Slenderman.

Now it's come out that it's either a partnership of convenience or Habit is subservient to it in some way but still works against it.

Slenderman's appearances have become less & less, but it's the crossover that really threw a monkey wrench into things.

Has the Slenderman plot become abandoned because they don't want to contradict anyone else's vlog? Or are they still planning to get back to it?

Either way, it's a bit of a hasty conclusion that Habit has taken over as the main villain just because there is an admittedly long Habit Arc.

Speaking of, I'm just now starting to feel the effects of EverymanHYBRID withdrawal, but still not really Marble Hornets. There's not really a sense that it had anything left to tell me. Brian did crazy things. The Operator did spooky things. No real reason for any of the specifics, no deeper mystery.


Bear in mind they have a lot more to work with using the HABIT character. Slenderman and the Rake were both existing creatures on the net. HABIT was original. So they can do whatever they want with him, plus as Vinny says "he's the only one who can talk."

I don't think it ever looked like HABIT worked for Slenderman, would you refer to your boss as "stick in the mud?"

I am too getting the withdrawal, I just hope they know how and when to end the series.


Yes. And for/with, I don't precisely remember, but I stated throughout that whole "They were never together" phase that the fans were going through that this was selectively ignoring several key points, such as that he states that he had Slenderman's help at several points in Canyouseethewords & that he implicated that he was waiting for Slenderman to appear when he was killing that guy who shall remain namelss because of spoilers in the woods.

Either way, I still want to see Slim & Gollum come back into the plot. I was so disappointed when they didn't show the Rake just massacring Evan. They didn't kill the Rake off, did they? I doubt it. If you were going to do that, it would make sense to go full-circle & give the Rake an origin.


Does he state exactly the he needed Slim's help? Sounds out of character. I remember HABIT and him having a spat on the EMH twitter earlier in the story. I think they're both equal in power but the co-operation comes and goes. Unless they need to work together they don't. HABIT seems to enjoy winding up Slenderman though, just to push his buttons. And when HABIT killed you-know-who he gave the corpse to Slenderman because A) It's there are hints in the Corenthal letters and various unsigned tweets (assumed to be from Slenderman) that he wants to reunite the children after death. B) HABIT only gains pleasure from inflicting pain, once the victim has passed on HABIT can no longer pull any entertainment and the only monster of the three who has a mythos suggesting an interest with playing with dead bodies is again the thin man.

I completely agree though, I want more Slendy and Rake. We deserved at least half of Evan's struggle with it. Even if the fight cut in and out the severed head piece wouldn't be impossible to do. I thought the Rake would come back but if that's how they kill it off I'd be disappointed. I doubt they'll give him an origin, right now they're writing the weakness to Slenderman and they're in no way writing a backstory....though they have crossed over with DH and they have written a (pretty good if I do say so) origin for Slendy. But that crossover was never TOO involved.

I'll reiterate the HABIT = original concept point just to say he'll likely get an origin story. I can imagine him tying up Vinny and giving a generic villain monologue explaining his motives before fucking Noah Maxwell crashes trough the roof to save the day.

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I can imagine him tying up Vinny and giving a generic villain monologue explaining his motives before fucking Noah Maxwell crashes trough the roof to save the day.

THIS. SO MUCH. I CAN JUST SEE IT. THAT'S WHY THEY'RE TAKING SO LONG TO UPDATE.
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 		I haven't been that into Slendervlogs lately. There's just too many of them, and the last few I did try were mostly kids complaining about finding papers with operator symbols on them. I also don't know if the older vlogs I never tried will make sense now, with all the crossovers, references, ARG elements, and deleted videos.

What I am doing though is waiting for Dark Harvest, EverymanHybrid, or Tribetwelve to upload their first post-MH video.

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Does he state exactly the he needed Slim's help?


I don't know, I guess that? Depends on what you mean by that. The point is that we always knew there was some kind of working relationship, there--albeit "subservient" may have been an erroneous description--& later revelations didn't overturn that completely, they just showed that it wasn't all 1 big, happy family.

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I completely agree though, I want more Slendy and Rake. We deserved at least half of Evan's struggle with it. Even if the fight cut in and out the severed head piece wouldn't be impossible to do. I thought the Rake would come back but if that's how they kill it off I'd be disappointed. I doubt they'll give him an origin, right now they're writing the weakness to Slenderman and they're in no way writing a backstory....though they have crossed over with DH and they have written a (pretty good if I do say so) origin for Slendy. But that crossover was never TOO involved.


No argument on the Rake thing. I think they're putting in weaknesses to Slenderman just to serve the other vlogs, though. And they don't necessarily mean that he'll be killed off.

I guess not everyone would agree with this, but if I were going to be bold enough to write Slenderman's end, I'd want to bring it full circle & write its beginning.

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Lithp wrote:
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Does he state exactly the he needed Slim's help?


I don't know, I guess that? Depends on what you mean by that. The point is that we always knew there was some kind of working relationship, there--albeit "subservient" may have been an erroneous description--& later revelations didn't overturn that completely, they just showed that it wasn't all 1 big, happy family.

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I completely agree though, I want more Slendy and Rake. We deserved at least half of Evan's struggle with it. Even if the fight cut in and out the severed head piece wouldn't be impossible to do. I thought the Rake would come back but if that's how they kill it off I'd be disappointed. I doubt they'll give him an origin, right now they're writing the weakness to Slenderman and they're in no way writing a backstory....though they have crossed over with DH and they have written a (pretty good if I do say so) origin for Slendy. But that crossover was never TOO involved.


No argument on the Rake thing. I think they're putting in weaknesses to Slenderman just to serve the other vlogs, though. And they don't necessarily mean that he'll be killed off.

I guess not everyone would agree with this, but if I were going to be bold enough to write Slenderman's end, I'd want to bring it full circle & write its beginning.


What I mean is to say is there any particular video or tweet where HABIT establishes that he works for or with Slenderman? Even if this were to be true I'm about 90% certain he would never admit to it, he's cocky by nature and never puts himself below anyone. If there's a word for their relationship I'd swap subservient with estranged. As opposed to 1 big family try old college buddies. Their relationship is parallel to the point were if one of them needs the other for their motives their paths may diverge, but it would seem that none of the three care about each other, but more so about the HYBRIDs.

See this is something I'm not so sure of. The frequency of the big five (if you even want to call it that) minus MH of course has slowed down to the point where it's becoming suspect given the revelations being made in each series. EMH, TT, MLA and DH. To me it seems all of these series are pushing to an eventuality, like a conclusion. I'm not necessarily talking endgame but imagine a big ass crossover video where they all take him down together. The most popular theory for defeating Slenderman after Tupla would seem to be Unity, or the concept of everyone working together. While MLA has the clock hands and whatever, EMH had the intel needed, DH knows the origins and while it's looking unlikely I'm gonna guess TT's journal and symbol trick that HABIT thought Noah may come in handy as well. In the last few months it seems like whenever a series has made a development in terms of identifying slenderman or the bigger picture (i.e. say EMH learning they are fiction) a lot of the other series' have as well, it's like a cog system where if one turns they all do.

And yes, you're right. If you're going to have the co hones to write Slenderman's death you need to do to it right and carefully. That's why I think everyone is taking their time to update. They want to make it as good as they possibly can. I mean a lot of people won't want to stomach Slenderman being killed let alone having a weakness but that's their beef. I doubt anyone wrote this from the beginning though. Series like DH and MLA seem to rely on the presence of Slenderman in their series as the events center around him. If he gets killed where can the show go but only end? EMH and TT could still go for another year or so because of HABIT, the Rake and the Collective.

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What I am doing though is waiting for Dark Harvest, EverymanHybrid, or Tribetwelve to upload their first post-MH video.


Me too, it'll be interesting.

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THIS. SO MUCH. I CAN JUST SEE IT. THAT'S WHY THEY'RE TAKING SO LONG TO UPDATE.


and then some http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYZy4a4tHG0

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 		Again, not really sure? I'm referring to the last 4 posts on Canyouseethewords, which all have 1 or more allusion to Slenderman & HABIT being in on the same scheme.

I have considered the possibility of 1 big crossover finale & have nothing good to say about that.

I thought it was "cajones"?

Anyway, I've decided to take up "StanFrederickBTS," "She Is The Huntress," & possibly "DarkHarvest" to fill up the update gap.

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I have considered the possibility of 1 big crossover finale & have nothing good to say about that.


Have to agree, though part of that is because EMH is the only Slendy or Slendy-inspired series that I really got into long term. Well-executed crossovers are rare, and even the best can quickly devolve into self-parody.

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Lithp wrote:
Again, not really sure? I'm referring to the last 4 posts on Canyouseethewords, which all have 1 or more allusion to Slenderman & HABIT being in on the same scheme.

I have considered the possibility of 1 big crossover finale & have nothing good to say about that.

I thought it was "cajones"?

Anyway, I've decided to take up "StanFrederickBTS," "She Is The Huntress," & possibly "DarkHarvest" to fill up the update gap.


While CYSTW is canon I don't pay too much attention to it, to me it's like TTA in so much that it's supplementary reading that doesn't give or take from the story.

I dunno, the idea of a big crossover ending sounds cool to me. But I can completely see how people would be pissed off at it. It would take a lot of planning. It would take almost a year of no updates just so it could be well written and all the creators were certain they aren't getting a bum deal.

I'd suggest more for your viewing but I'm really not into self-promotion.

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 		Most of Canyouseethewords is irrelevant. Only the post explaining why Steph got arrested & the last few posts made by HABIT are important. But those posts that are important are pretty important. They essentially break down how HABIT's powers work, what his motive is, & what he wants Slenderman for.

It doesn't matter how supposedly good the crossover is if I don't know/care anything about the series involved. EverymanHYBRID had a great, self-contained story. If it's been reduced to...Slenderman Smash Bros. then the English language lacks words to adequately describe how pathetic that is.

While it may be too early to call that for sure, some of the recent moves are very suspicious, including writing off Steph so abruptly & making over half of the videos they've put out since HABIT was summoned crossovers, some not even on the EverymanHYBRID channel.

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 		Oh man I was so lost in the whole Jeff-Steph war until I saw the CYSTH blog and saw how she corresponds to Jessa. Though I love in one of her earlier videos Evan bolts behind them as of Jessa wasn't enough of a nod to the fans as well as the photo of the Hyrbrids in Hoagie heaven. I think that was around when EMH was at it's best.

yeah, another good point. I actually like the smash bros. idea but like you said if there are boring/poor/shitty series getting involved then it damages the crossover as a whole. I've cringed at each MLA crossover so far and Michael hasn't even appeared yet.

Maybe I did jump to conclusions, but I'd place a hefty bet that the hasty writing off of Steph (if you can even call it that-I thought it was natural) was largely due to OOG reasons, which will always happen in the Slenderverse. People have lives and so far I think MH are only ones to make money from this and they lucked out. And of the crossover videos outside of the EMH channel very much seem to me to be stage-setting. Like I said before every series thus far has had a character for spouting exposition but none of them were complete antagonists. The character of HABIT allows characters to receive knowledge pivotal to the story's pace but doesn't give the protagonists any feeling of safety or security.

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