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epsilon1
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glyphs
Vera's twitter

Alright, so, I've seen this image before in the SGG movement



"These SEVEN GLYPHS belong to SEVEN ELEMENTS.

VERA means FAITH in the vastness of the unspoken."


(RE) BIRTH


KITSUNE


MARTYRDOM


COMMUNION


THE ORIGIN


CONCEPTION
NSFW: http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/5f/50/71/5f50717252efd4640a30f73ab3ae579d.jpg

YAMANTAU
NSFW: http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/f0/7d/02/f07d02aacb06ee911f3521bb818ef55a.jpg


More stuff
http://www.pinterest.com/blessedleader/

What is your opinion? Also, where are these symbols from?

~~~~~ Fixed images ~ Pixie

PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:49 am
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Thank you for posting!

Is annoying i seem to miss many things on my Facebook feed. Confused

True those pictogramms have appeared before.

Here are ones i can find:

From Junsui FB post and Pinterest "VI - COMMUNION"
https://www.facebook.com/JunsuiMovement
http://www.pinterest.com/pin/563583340841848319/



-look bottom left rune is same as "communion" you posted

PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 10:24 pm
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Also from Gwaschemashe priestess image there is pictogramm same as "conception"-



http://la-belle-epoque-en-europe.tumblr.com/post/75350312034/princess-gwaschemasche-efendi-priestess-of-the

http://thejunsui.wordpress.com/images-veras-facebook-album-on-gwaschemasche-gone-but-not-forgotten/




Same pictogramm is on the Santiago graffiti posted by Raimonda Concepcion-

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=477495902268851&set=t.1797201340&type=3&theater




Same pictogramm is also on image of Rei "Little Bird"-

http://www.facebook.com/JunsuiMovement/photos/a.119616952011.102612.108510947011/123831227011/?type=3&theater



Also this is the same in the "Fake Google" before Rei in room-






Other pictogramms from 2009 widget is same as "origin"-

http://ru.junkojunsui.wikia.com/wiki/%D0%97%D0%B0%D0%B3%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B0



Translation: "She is the origin"


And from Facebook "the Junsui"-

http://www.facebook.com/JunsuiMovement/photos/a.119616952011.102612.108510947011/132004342011/?type=3&theater



Quote:
SHE IS THE ORIGIN - The SOLSTICE of RENEWAL which brings all LIFE TO EARTH and HUMAN BEINGS. The PLACE of manifesting and observance is at MNAJDRA.


PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:19 pm
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Re: glyphs
Vera's twitter

I missed fact that these were also tweeted individually in addition to Facebook postings!

The tweets have text which you forgot to post and show implication of numeric order?



The Junsui Facebook wrote:


"These SEVEN GLYPHS belong to SEVEN ELEMENTS.

VERA means FAITH in the vastness of the unspoken."



links to pinterest "I - (RE) BIRTH"—

@VeraNovosi twitter wrote:


#JUNSUI has GLYPH of #REBIRTH. Remembering small voices and first tastes. http://www.pinterest.com/blessedleader/i-re-birth/







links to pinterest "II - KITSUNE"—

@VeraNovosi twitter wrote:


#JUNSUI has GLYPH of #KITSUNE. To see and move as pet foxes. Escape artificiality. http://www.pinterest.com/blessedleader/i-re-birth/






links to pinterest "III - YAMANTAU"—

@VeraNovosi twitter wrote:


#JUNSUI has GLYPH of #YAMANTAU. Remember dirt that suffocates and steals innocence. http://www.pinterest.com/blessedleader/iii-yamantau/


NSFW: http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/f0/7d/02/f07d02aacb06ee911f3521bb818ef55a.jpg



links to pinterest "IV - CONCEPTION"—

@VeraNovosi twitter wrote:


#JUNSUI has GLYPH of #CONCEPTION. Becomes a Mother she that lost or never had one. http://www.pinterest.com/blessedleader/iv-conception/


NSFW: http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/5f/50/71/5f50717252efd4640a30f73ab3ae579d.jpg



links to pinterest "V - MARTYRDOM"—

@VeraNovosi twitter wrote:


#JUNSUI has GLYPH of #MARTYRDOM. Heart stopped by fire but laughing still. http://www.pinterest.com/blessedleader/v-martyrdom/







links to pinterest "VI - COMMUNION"—

@VeraNovosi twitter wrote:


#JUNSUI has GLYPH of #COMMUNION. #HiveMind in total darkness. Weapon of their annihilation. http://www.pinterest.com/blessedleader/vi-communion/






links to pinterest "VII - ORIGIN"—

@VeraNovosi twitter wrote:


#JUNSUI has GLYPH of #ORIGIN. Without end but always our beginning. Manifestation #NEWREALITY. http://www.pinterest.com/blessedleader/vii-origin/




PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:36 am
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I am not knowledgeable on religions so much.

But this looks like a natural-supernatural woman's life cycle:

birth, self awareness
play, exploration
puberty, loss of innocence
maturity, motherhood
death, dismemberment
purgatory, haunting?
heaven, enlightenment?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:50 am
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Russian Fan wrote:
I am not knowledgeable on religions so much.

But this looks like a natural-supernatural woman's life cycle:

birth, self awareness
play, exploration
puberty, loss of innocence
maturity, motherhood
death, dismemberment
purgatory, haunting?
heaven, enlightenment?


makes a lot of sense, maybe if we could find the origin of these glyphs we may find more stuff
I don't think these glyphs were made by the junsui, I think they are from an old languaje or something

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Russian Fan wrote:




-look bottom left rune is same as "communion" you posted


The script left of "communion" is the original Germanic rune, Raidho as it is called in Elder Futhark, or Rit in more revisionist systems like the Guido von List's völkisch Armanen Runes.



http://runesecrets.com/rune-meanings/raidho

Its original meaning was "journey" or "ride" (in fact the modern English word descends from it). Unlike its Latin equivalent "R", Raidho is closely associated with the number 5.



More contemporary interpretations, such as Armanism assign this rune symbolic meanings including:

transformation, judgement, ritual, and black magic

http://www.scn.org/anon/dossiers/armanic/runes.htm

The second mark which has been defined as "communion" most closely resembles the rune Yr of Nordic Younger Futhark or the Toten Rune (Death Rune) of Armanism which was commonly used to denote death in the Nazi's Schutzstaffel.





But this second likeness is not close enough fo me and my best guess is that the "communion" glyph is itself a ligature, that is a multi-syllabic combination of simpler marks.

I wish to search more thoroughly to find a convincing match. Of course one thing which is inescapable in this photo is the resemblance of the women's ritual positions to the geometry of the mark.


Speculation:

A compund meaning for this mark on the photo might include Communion of Five, Black Magic Communion or Ritual of Communion.

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Vercingetorix_Gergovia wrote:
Russian Fan wrote:




-look bottom left rune is same as "communion" you posted


The script left of "communion" is the original Germanic rune, Raidho as it is called in Elder Futhark, or Rit in more revisionist systems like the Guido von List's völkisch Armanen Runes.



http://runesecrets.com/rune-meanings/raidho

Its original meaning was "journey" or "ride" (in fact the modern English word descends from it). Unlike its Latin equivalent "R", Raidho is closely associated with the number 5.



More contemporary interpretations, such as Armanism assign this rune symbolic meanings including:

transformation, judgement, ritual, and black magic

http://www.scn.org/anon/dossiers/armanic/runes.htm

The second mark which has been defined as "communion" most closely resembles the rune Yr of Nordic Younger Futhark or the Toten Rune (Death Rune) of Armanism which was commonly used to denote death in the Nazi's Schutzstaffel.





But this second likeness is not close enough fo me and my best guess is that the "communion" glyph is itself a ligature, that is a multi-syllabic combination of simpler marks.

I wish to search more thoroughly to find a convincing match. Of course one thing which is inescapable in this photo is the resemblance of the women's ritual positions to the geometry of the mark.


Speculation:

A compund meaning for this mark on the photo might include Communion of Five, Black Magic Communion or Ritual of Communion.


EDIT: It can be very difficult to determine representational meanings for runes because there have been multiple revisionist usages, notable Guido von List's. However since Gwaschemasch'e Efendi was reputedly an adherent to at least some Armansitic teachings, one might lean towards these interpretations for the Junsui glyphs.

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Anonymous wrote:


EDIT: It can be very difficult to determine representational meanings for runes because there have been multiple revisionist usages, notable Guido von List's. However since Gwaschemasch'e Efendi was reputedly an adherent to at least some Armansitic teachings, one might lean towards these interpretations for the Junsui glyphs.



Seems like you might have not posted part of your text. What did you "edit"?

You should register an account. I finally did and it makes it much easier to write longer posts or correct mistakes. Smile

I agree that runes can be notoriously difficult to interpret, particularly with all the new agisms out there. But remember that meanings are never definitive and all depend upon semiotics anyway. The goal here is just for us to determine what these mean to the group of women in question. If they cannot tell us themseves, then we do our best to make use of previous, historical interpretations.

Has anybody tried asking them, incidentally? Rolling Eyes

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Here is another interesting possible source for the "communion" and maybe the "martyrdom" glyphs...

Not a pictograph or rune at all but instead the three bound arrows emblem of the Circassian disapora:



Since there is so much focus put upon Circassian culture maybe it is a wise idea to go and look at early Scythian or Sarmatian tamga scripts.

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I'm not personally keen on some of the images they have been putting out, and I'm passing it along to the admin team how to handle the info on our site. We have kids on unfiction, you know?
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I have to admit that like many Europeans, I have always found American attitudes towards depictions of the human body rather perplexing. Very Happy

I thought I recalled seeing a requirement for being 13 in order to use this site when registering the other day. Surely thirteen year olds are aware of the presence of female breasts in this world? I don't think there's an absence of them online anyway. These are not even prurient and I would have no issue myself letting my children see any of the images above. I worry much more about depictions of violence, especially in video games, which have the power to desensitize.

But this is not my site so do with it as you will. I suppose we could start covering the "naughty bits" ourselves in photoshop, even paste burkas over the women if need be. Let us know what is decided! Wink

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Let's set things straight here, I'm not prude, far from it - I simply don't want this website that I help moderate to get into trouble for what could be considered pornagraphic (in this case, breasts and vagina). Your need to be an ass and mention Burkas in an exaggerated attempt to "shame" my so called sensibilities is uncalled for. If you wish to mock me further, take it to a private message.

Besides just kids (and yes, under 18 are minors is the US and there are web guidelines for dealing with that material for minors), we also have a lot of people who check forums on their free time from work - this is obviously NSFW. It's possible the admins decide to just mark it as such. It's possible the pictures should be hosted elsewhere and posted as links instead of direct images. It's possible nothing will come of this at all. All I did was bring this to the attention of the admin team and my fellow mods.

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Mea maxima culpa.

I apologize. I did not mean it as a personal shaming.

I actually did not see the shadow hinting at a vagina before you pointed it out. Probably time I purchased a new hight contrast monitor.

Again it must be said that what is sometimes objected to in the States as being "pornography" we often find more than acceptable, in fact mainstream. (American companies like Apple have caused a furor in Europe by censoring our mainsteam publications like Der Spiegel, for instance.) We just have vastly different ideas of what is problematic for children to be exposed to and yes it breeds some resentment when we meanwhile have to endure so much mindless American pop culture. I personally have no hostility and think it is all rather funny. Again, sorry for my exaggeration with the "burkas" bit. Merely my poor attempt at absurdist humor. Wink

So… anybody find any pictographic scripts resembling our glyphs? I have now searched searched various tagmas, phoenician, proto Hebrew, and Sanskrit with no real matches.

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Russian Fan hinted at this -- I think the order of these glyphs could be important, and could possibly form a narrative. Take a look at Vera's pinterest board for each of the glyphs. The pictures/captions might be telling a story.

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