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I have a code that I need help ciphering please

405429433438429360398442429445438428429372360425438360428429442360402425432
442432445438428429442444447429438428429360428433429443429443372360430433438 428429360433427432360399429430425432442360426433438338447429433444429443360
450445360438425432429443372360425436443360429443360443429433438360443439436 436444429374360415433442360432425426429438360429433438360414429442443445427
432429438360447429438433431429442338405439438425444429360431429432425426444 372360445438428360433427432360432425444444429360431429432439430430444372360
401432438429438360425436436429360406425427432442433427432444429438360429433 438429442338414429442426429443443429442445438431360425438450445426433429444
429438372360425426429442360428433429360443439436436360438433427432444360443 429433438374338338394429447429431445438431429438360428445442427432360428433
429360426425436444433443427432429360408425442444429433360426429438574444433 431429438360378372360443427432438429436436360450445338426429447429431429438
374360401427432360426433438360444442425445442433431372360450445360426429442 433427432444429438372360428425551360394429437580432445438431429438360433438
360445438443429442429437338406425437429438360446439438360445438443429442429 438360398442429445438428429438360433438360411440425438433429438360446429442
431429426436433427432360447425442429438374360396433429443429443360433443444 360428433429338404429431425427449360428429443360432433443444439442433443427
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425444360429443372360428425551360429433438429360425436444429360418429433436 429372360428433429360433427432360446429442443445427432429372360445438444429
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444374360401427432360426433438360438433427432444338433437443444425438428429 372360428433429443429443372360425426429442360437439442431429438443360425445
427432360450445360426429443444556444433431429438360438433427432444360430556 432433431372360429443360450445338429438444436425442446429438374360401427432
360431436425445426429372360428425551360428433429443429360428433429360410580 427435435429432442360428429442360400425437437445442425426433425438360418429
433436429338433438360428429442360412425444360443429433438360435425438438372 360428433429360447433442360446439442360436425438431429442360418429433444360
445438443360431429430580442427432444429444360432425444444429438374338338401 427432360432425426429360425445427432360429442432574432444429443360394429447
445551444443429433438360445438443429442429442360412556444433431435429433444 429438360425445430360428433429443429442338415429426360443433444429360426429
425427432444429444374360401427432360431436425445426429372360428425551360429 443360437433444360428429442360418445438425432437429440439440445436425442433
444556444338432433429442360445438428360429433438433431429438360446429442443 429432429438444436433427432429438360399439439431436429360397438444428429427
435445438431429438360450445443425437437429438432556438431444374338396433429 443429443360435425438438360438433427432444360446429442437433429428429438360
447429442428429438374360405429433438360426433444444429360437433444360411433 437439438372360450445437360443433427432360425445430338428425443360415425427
432443444445437360428433429443429442360411433444429443360450445442580427435 450445450433429432429438360443433438428360446429442431429426436433427432360
431429447429443429438374360401427432338443429432429372360447429438438360447 433442360429433438429360411429435445438428556442441445429436436429360430580
442360445438443429442429360403439437437445438433435425444433439438429438338 436439435425436433443433429442429438360435574438438429438374360394433443360
428425438438360443429444450429438360411433429360429433438430425427432360445 438443429442429360412429427432438433435429438338443439446433429436360447433
429360437574431436433427432360430439442444374338338396425438435429360430580 442360401432442429360399429428445436428374360415433442360429442432425436444
429438360428445442427432360428433429443429360418429433444372360447433429360 447433442360433437437429442374338338376338


If someone could help me cipher this code I woul really appreciate it. Thanks!!!!!!!!

PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 7:39 pm
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There seem to be 4392 characters, meaning they can be easily split into groups of two or three. Single-letter frequency analysis shows LOTS of 3's and 4's:
Character 0x34 (ASCII "4") 1542
Character 0x33 (ASCII "3") 911
Character 0x32 (ASCII "2") 547
Character 0x36 (ASCII "6") 281
...etc...

Three-digit frequency analysis shows a lot of 429's and 360's:
Item "429" has count 211
Item "360" has count 199
Item "438" has count 118
Item "433" has count 106
Item "442" has count 76
Item "444" has count 65
Item "443" has count 65
Item "432" has count 65
...etc...

Two-digit frequency analysis gives:
Item "43" has count 255
Item "42" has count 224
Item "44" has count 208
Item "36" has count 117
Item "29" has count 115
Item "04" has count 112
Item "60" has count 98
...etc...

I don't know what this gets you, but a lot of the 2-digit stuff looks vaguely-ASCII-ish, but not quite.

Edit: Added text file with detailed frequency counts
Edit: My counts were one high.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 8:19 pm
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Attached is my frequency tables for 2 digit and 3 digit combos. If the number is not shown, its frequency is 0.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 8:27 pm
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The text was ciphered using this: http://dinofilias.com/encrypt.htm

The keyspace for this algo is really small. To find the key, add the ascii value of all letters in the key together. The proper value needed for the decode is:

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328


Broken:

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Meine Freunde, an der Jahrhundertwende dieses, finde ich Gefahr bin weites zu nahes, als es sein sollte. Wir haben ein Versuchen weniger Monate gehabt, und ich hatte gehofft, Ihnen alle Nachrichten einer Verbesserung anzubieten, aber die soll nicht sein. Bewegungen durch die baltische Partei benötigen 2, schnell zu bewegen. Ich bin traurig, zu berichten, daß Bemühungen in unserem Namen von unseren Freunden in Spanien vergeblich waren. Dieses ist die Legacy des historischen Problemgebens zu unserer Aufgabe durch die Hittites und ihrer Kämpfe mit den Syrians. Gerücht hat es, daß eine alte Zeile, die ich versuche, unten zu verfolgen, im Besitz von zwei Ihrer Wörter ist. Ich bin nicht imstande, dieses, aber morgens auch zu bestätigen nicht fähig, es zu entlarven. Ich glaube, daß diese die Rückkehr der Hammurabian Zeile in der Tat sein kann, die wir vor langer Zeit uns gefürchtet hatten. Ich habe auch erhöhtes Bewußtsein unserer Tätigkeiten auf dieser Web site beachtet. Ich glaube, daß es mit der Zunahmepopularität hier und einigen versehentlichen Google Entdeckungen zusammenhängt. Dieses kann nicht vermieden werden. Mein bitte mit Simon, zum sich auf das Wachstum dieser Sites zurückzuziehen sind vergeblich gewesen. Ich sehe, wenn wir eine Sekundärquelle für unsere Kommunikationen lokalisieren können. Bis dann setzen Sie einfach unsere Techniken soviel wie möglich fort. Danke für Ihre Geduld. Wir erhalten durch diese Zeit, wie wir immer.


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I find am my friends, at the century turning point of this, danger far too near when it should be. We had a trial less months, and I had hoped to offer all messages of an improvement to you, but that should not be. Movements through the Baltic party require 2 to move quickly. I am sad, to report that efforts in our name of our friends in Spain were vain. This is the Legacy of the historic problem gift to our task through the Hittites and its battles with the Syrians. Rumor has it that an old line that I try to pursue below, in the possession of two of your words is. I am not able, to confirm this, but mornings also not capably to expose it. I believe that this can be the return of the Hammurabian line in the deed, that we had feared us long time ago. I noted also increased consciousness of our activities on these Webs site. I believe that it holds together with the increase popularity here and some mistaken Google discoveries. This cannot be avoided. My please with Simon to withdraw to that on the growth of these sites were vain. I see if we can localize a secondary source for our communications. Until then, you continue simply our technologies so much like possible. Would thank for your patience. We receive through this time, like we always.


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Can the author (or me) edit the first message so that we can eliminate the horizontal scrolling please?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 11:11 pm
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He/She's a guest (can't edit).....so I'd say go ahead Smile

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cross reference: this relates to >that<

PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 1:49 am
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I'm really confused. If I use http://dinofilias.com/encrypt.htm on the code given in the first message, with the number given by AnthraX101 I get something completely different (no real text also). I'm very new at this stuff, so I'm probably doing something wrong, but I have no idea what. Can somebody tell me what I'm doing wrong please? Confused

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Yes, this is related to the puzzles at http://www.findtherings.com/

I was invited by the post starter to join his "team" (apparently he has multiple), but don't exactly trust him. He was doing a contest and got us to help him without telling us that there may be monitary reprocussions. Smile

rinne: You can't actualy enter that number for the password, it's actualy a form of the password that the program uses (the variable named "len" after CalcKey() is called). More or less break up the numbers into 3 digit chunks, subtract that number, and then convert to a raw binary format.

Short explanation for those who arn't programers: Enter this password:

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RRRR


And you will get the proper output. (This is called a key collision)

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AnthraX101 wrote:
Yes, this is related to the puzzles at http://www.findtherings.com/

I was invited by the post starter to join his "team" (apparently he has multiple), but don't exactly trust him. He was doing a contest and got us to help him without telling us that there may be monitary reprocussions. Smile


That annoyed me a little bit, I'm happy to help people solve codes etc but when there is gain involved its nice to know. s/he really should have said as much. I've been in a web competition before and teams are so adhoc with people joining every team they can so the're in the best position. Maybe unfiction can be one big team? Being un-US its not like I can get to any of the prizes (its implied they are at RL locations)

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I agree with colin. You guys are so good at cracking puzzles, you shouldn't offer your assistance to anyone outside of Unfiction, or else word will get out and everyone will be coming here for your expertise, with no incentive for you. Then eventually, the FBI will get wind of your abilities and you'll find yourself in a dimly-lit room with a computer screen in front of you, and some guy with a lot of gel in his hair will be saying, "you have 60 seconds to decode this string. Go!" And you'll do it, and maybe nail Halle Berry, except it will turn out that the guy wasn't from the FBI at all but some splinter cell of a top secret right-wing militia organization that operates without supervision and under the CIA's radar, and then you'll have to break into their supersecure base at Langley to steal a disk containing the information you need to get out from under the gel-hair guy's clutches, and one of your guys will turn out to be a double agent working for the CIA guy who first told you about gel-hair guy, and then Ben Kingsley will appear from your past and seem really cool before telling his goons to kill you, and he can sound really creepy when he wants to even though he played Ghandi, but he also played that psycho guy in Sexy Beast, but anyway, you'll escape from Ben Kingsley only to find yourself in an even more dangerous situation possibly involving oil, and then in ten or fifteen years it's food, and then plutonium, maybe even sooner, and by now you've sub-referenced two Robert Redford movies, but that's ok because just when you think you've figured it all out, your computer screen will go blank except for the words "wake up, colin", and doesn't it always suck when that happens?

I swear, I started out trying to write a serious post.
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Very Happy if Halle is involved i'm cool with it Razz

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AnthraX101 I'm impressed. Clearly I have a lot to learn. But, I have now been able to solve three other similar codes on my own for the very first time. Very Happy So, thanks a lot!!

On the findthering thing for those interested. The following indeed seems to imply that teams of 4 might have to be formed:
quote:
"all shall join the hunt
four strangers will unite
four voices will merge
ignorance is denied

the search starts 5 2004"

Rinne

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Yeah, no question teams of 4, competition for prizes. Which means shame on foresting for trying to use UF to move his team ahead without telling us. If he'd been honest someone probably would have helped anyway. Cuz we aren't like that.

My suggestion to UF members - help findtherings players if you want, but post the answer on the findtherings forums for EVERYBODY. Or join a team and help your teammates. And to foresting: we like honesty much better.
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