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Why the mythos are dissapearing
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Ristar
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Why the mythos are dissapearing

As the title says, here is the reason:

Is not that people are caring less about the mythos, it's the fault of the Vlogs/Blogs for failing to catch the viewer/reader's attention:

Seriously, if you are planning on making a terror/horror series based on Slenderman unless you decide to take risks, then don't bother. It's a waste of time (Your valuable time and the viewer's time, if u get any of them), money and resources you could put on something else.

Save time for your viewers and for your sake and don't even bother to try, unless you want to end with a discontinued series and tons of unused material

And if you like the mythos then, everytime you see a new trailhead and you start thinking ''This has many cliches'' then don't bother on subscribing or keep watching something that will probaly end up dead (Yes, this includes series like CNS or Mlandersen wich people think they are popular even though they only update like once a year)

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I mostly agree with this. Creators need to take risks and do something different, because frankly, there is NOTHING to lose. I know I talk about it a lot, but the MichaelVerse series (GlassBeetles, Michael'sCamera, and currently RiddleOfTheTreeMan) does a lot different than other series. For example, slenderman is present in them, but in most of them he isn't the main antagonist. Michael, the creator has simply incorporated slenderman into his horror series without basing the ARG around him.

However, this partially is the fault of the viewers' fault. There are so many "horror," or "slenderman ARG," fans that simply won't watch anything but the Rake or the slenderman. My opinion? Keep them there, but perhaps the slenderverse has to disappear, and more series like TheWestRecords and the Michaelverse have to pop up.

Another thing creators need to do with an ARG, is actually make an ARG aspect to it. Have livestreams, have a tinychat (originally I was not a fan of this, but a tinychat is a great way to let your viewers be a part of a story without having to even make videos), and DO NOT DISABLE COMMENTS, interact on the channel through PM's and stuff. The Mythos just needs to evolve, OC needs to become more important, and certain series have done this well (ICSTG with Teacher and TRASH, EMH with Habit, and of course the MichaelVerse with probably over 20 OC monsters).
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OOG about She is The Huntress:
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I know you're not really supposed to talk about your own series here, but She is The Huntress has just started and I promise everyone here that not only is there a huge opportunity for audience participation via the main Tumblr (link in signature) but I am trying to defy a lot of expectations despite Slendy being a part of it. I'm building my own mythos and I want as many people along for the ride.

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Cyan507 wrote:
Authenticity is invaluable. Originality is non-exitstant. -Jim Jarmusch

Well, they say everything's been done before - but it's not what you do, more how you do it.
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Clairabel wrote:
Cyan507 wrote:
Authenticity is invaluable. Originality is non-exitstant. -Jim Jarmusch

Well, they say everything's been done before - but it's not what you do, more how you do it.


Yeah. That's what I said Razz

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Personally, I feel like the mythos at its best has a kind of feeling to it that most new series are missing. The Slender Man is easy to use because a lack of canon makes him a malleable character, sure, but there's an atmosphere he's meant to evoke that a lot of series are plainly failing to deliver. Even the ones with proper stories are feeling vacant of a creative drive right now. With so many series out there, the only way one will slip through the cracks is if there's a lot of ambition put it into it, followed by the dedication that will make it great. It needs a strong backing to it; the desire to make something that will make new and long-time fans alike have their first whimper in terror all over again.

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It seems counter-intuitive to me to suggest that "the Slender Man Mythos is disappearing," & then suggest that the solution is to relegate Slenderman to the position of side character.

I do agree with risk-taking, but I also feel like people ignore the effect of competition. Once the largest vlogs start disappearing, a HUGE amount of people are going to be looking for something new.

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Cyan507 wrote:
Clairabel wrote:
Cyan507 wrote:
Authenticity is invaluable. Originality is non-exitstant. -Jim Jarmusch

Well, they say everything's been done before - but it's not what you do, more how you do it.


Yeah. That's what I said Razz


To be fair, it's Jim Jarmusch who said that.

Sorry.

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It seems counter-intuitive to me to suggest that "the Slender Man Mythos is disappearing," & then suggest that the solution is to relegate Slenderman to the position of side character.


What I mean is that the mythos needs to adapt. slenderman shouldn't be the main villain in every series, because it simply isn't realistic for one monster to have all of the fun to himself. There would be people who see him a bit, but are mainly haunted by something else in the mythos.

Side characters also add what is missing in slenderman; a voice, a personality, different powers, etc. The "mythos," needs to include slenderman as a huge part, but perhaps some other characters need to be more or equally important to make things diverse. If every series was focused on slenderman, I'd have stopped watching by now.
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Putting aside the obvious wave that Slender inspired there are newer series still that try to emulate the feelings previous series' manifested.

I guess when you think about it it's kinda like music. You'll have a band (MH) that will draw influence from other musicians or media (Blair Witch, lonelygirl15, Victor Surge) and make something completely new and refreshing. And that might birth a new scene in music and it becomes popular with a certain group of people. Once it grows in popularity people try to hitch a ride on the bandwagon and piggyback off the trend to benefit their own means(Pewdiepie, Smosh, Goomba771, multislenderhunters). While their music is similar and feels close to the original, it lacks heart, the lyrics are stale and the people who make them are starved for inspiration (MLA). Then once in a while you will have smaller bands that will use the same song structures, same sound and reprogram it, re-imagine it and take it in a new direction (EMH, TT). And you listen to these bands that a friend or youtube recommended since they noticed you like <MH>. And even if you only listen to one of these new-gen bands, they collaborate and guest on each other bands (crossovers) and allow you to get into a newer band that you may not have found previously. I know I went on this tangent in a previous thread so sorry. But these newer bands are so in touch with their fans it really proves how close-knit the community is. Nowadays you'll have bands popping up that actually put in a decent effort with something new to add (Whisperedfaith, sheisthehuntress, DH etc.) but don't get enough recognition because the scene is clogged up with so much generic bullcrap that not only doesn't expand on the existing formula, but outright copies what others have done.

I would name actual bands and used them in the analogy but I doubt we all listen to the same music so yeah Confused

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Hey it's almost like that's a really poor analogy to use because artistic sensibilities are subjective, not objective.
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drseussicide wrote:
Hey it's almost like that's a really poor analogy to use because artistic sensibilities are subjective, not objective.


Rolling Eyes

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I wouldn't say the mythos as a whole are "disappearing", but they're likely going to "disappear" for many of us once Marble Hornets and EverymanHYBRID (notably Marble Hornets) both conclude. None of the Trailheads have managed to keep my attention; the same can be said for the bulk of those who have come in contact with the mythos, I feel.

I have a feeling most of us are going to wind up moving to the new original-most-likely-horror-genre-webseries that Trosephim teased a few days ago that they're going to start working on some time after Marble Hornets wraps up.

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Has it occurred to anyone that maybe it's because the viewers aren't watching the vlogs or reading the blogs that are doing stuff that is different.

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